MJ's record without a HOF teammate

[QUOTE=Soundwave]If no one is scoring the basketball you ain't winning anything.

Magic/Bird/Isiah never had to bail their teams out as much as Jordan did during his championship runs because there would be many stretches where he was the only one who could reliably score the basketball.

Basketball isn't soccer or hockey where you can score first and then just shut down and play great defense the rest of the way.

Pippen wasn't even on the floor when Jordan basically willed the Bulls to victory in game six of '98.

It's a nice luxury when your star player is so damn good that your no.2 player can shoot 1-9 and pretty much just focus on playing defense and not have to contribute much offensively. There are not very many NBA teams that would be able to win championships with that formula though.[/QUOTE]

None of the Bulls were shooting well in that game. In the first half Jordan, Kukoc and Pippen COMBINED were 3-24. The only thing that kept them in that game was defense and Pippen spear-headed it. It's nice when your #2 can play insane defense in a bad shooting game and pressures the opponent into mulitple turnovers that get his team dunks and layups. Larry Hughes sure as hell wasn't doing that shit.

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That 41 win Wizards didn't even have Arenas and Butler in the playoffs.

[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]None of the Bulls were shooting well in that game. In the first half Jordan, Kukoc and Pippen COMBINED were 3-24. The only thing that kept them in that game was defense and Pippen spear-headed it. It's nice when your #2 can play insane defense in a bad shooting game and pressures the opponent into mulitple turnovers that get his team dunks and layups. Larry Hughes sure as hell wasn't doing that shit.[/QUOTE]

Who give a crap about Larry Hughes again?

Jordan had to bail his team out more often than Magic/Bird/Isiah, no one wants to touch this argument because they know they got nothing on it.

Kobe tries to mimic this but has it blow up in his face half the time. It's the reason he's obsessed with "hero ball" because he idolized Jordan growing up, but he's missing a few of the marbles upstairs.

LeBron will just mentally check out if things aren't going his way or defeat looks imminent.

weak era for trolls

[QUOTE=greymatter]Uh, 2nd+ year Pip and Grant were easily better than any iteration of Hughes/Z. You seriously going to argue that Jordan could have taken Larry 40%fg/30%3pt career shooter Hughes --a chucker who happened to play the same position as Jordan-- to the Finals?
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You are aware the competition in the East in the mid and late 80's was significantly better than what LeBron had to deal with in Cleveland, right?