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Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[URL="http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/newdemocracy.htm"]A History Of Greece[/URL]
The Greek National Team tours the USA playing the Tarheels, and the Tarheels with Michael Jordan and Sam Perkins visit Athens to win a tournament there. But the key to Greece's success is ex-Seton Hall Greek-American guard Nikos Galis, an unstoppable scorer in college who continues his amazing play in the Greek basketball league. Galis, considered Greece's Michael Jordan, burned the UNC Tarheels for 50 points in an exhibition game in Chapel Hill.
[URL="http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.geocities.com/nikosgalis/tournaments1.html&date=2009-10-25+23:43:00"]Meeting Michael Jordan[/URL]
The year 1982, is remembered by Greek basketball fans as the year when two legends of the game met in the same arena.
Greece faced the UNC Tar Heels (North Carolina College) of Michael Jordan, in Sporting's arena.
25 year old Galis, played just according to his standards, but that was more than enough for young Jordan (who dunked flying over the head of a Greek player in that game) to say about him: "I think he's superb, he's a complete basketball player". During the game MJ teased Galis saying: "You're bad", as Nick confessed later.
Galis and Jordan met again playing in an exhibition game for the "DIMITRIA" festival. Galis scored 50 points this time and Michael Jordan, totally stunned, said: "I really did not expect to find such a good offensive player in Europe, especially in your country".
:wtf: :confusedshrug:
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Cool.
[COLOR="White"]But not really[/COLOR]
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
50 points when you are weathered professional in your prime, during an exhibition game against 19 year old amateur kids? Unbelievable ball hogging and bad sportsmanship by Galis.
Jordan went on to lead the USA to the Olympic gold medal two years later, with a team that didn't even feature any of the best US players. Galis couldn't even lead Greece to an Olympic qualification.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Wow, did you really just start a whole new thread on your newly found discovery that steamed from this thread which I've already addressed?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239456[/url]
One American coached player scored a 50 point game against another American coached player. Had Galis been a born and raised Greek player who scored 50 against Jordan, it might be worth getting excited about.
Someone long cat this nonsense.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
So the American Nick Galis was good enough to score 50 on MJ, a feat also accomplished by the great Kobe? Too bad he decided to waste his prime dominating against scrubs in Europe rather than be brave and test himself against the world's best. Some people are just content being a blue whale in a small pond I suppose, still I'm happy for him that we gave him to Greece, I don't think he would have made team USA at the time, or ever
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
No one cares about your shitty little league that is getting dominated by NBA role players right now.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE"]Won't get trolled again!![/URL]
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
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This is just epic :roll:
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
I agree, Galis is better than Jordan. :facepalm
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
great thread would read again
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Someone who likes to bitch about technicalities and small sample sizes using one game of a professional basketball player against an amateur that was still attending Sociology classes.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Jordan led a college team dominating every Euro scrubs has to offer.
By 28.3. Points in 1984 Olympics.
Greece never got any medal in Olympic basketball
Even with their American import Galis.
Think about it.
Young raw college boys.
Mopped the floor with grown men
From Europe.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=LJJ]50 points when you are weathered professional in your prime, during an exhibition game against 19 year old amateur kids? Unbelievable ball hogging and bad sportsmanship by Galis.
[B]Jordan went on to lead the USA to the Olympic gold medal two years later, with a team that didn't even feature any of the best US players. Galis couldn't even lead Greece to an Olympic qualification[/B].[/QUOTE]
When it comes to the bolded one, and going by the rest of your quote, this must just have been good sportsmanship on behalf of the professionals, letting 19 year old amateur kids beat them...
No, Galis wasn't in his prime in the early 80's, unless you also believe that Jordan was at his absolute prime in '87, because of averaging a career-high in scoring (and that's after an injury, btw). Galis' absolute prime came somewhat late in his career, between '87 and '90 and would last a bit more if he didn't get a pretty serious foot injury that prevented him from playing in the 1990 World Championship. When the injury healed, he still averaged 37.0 ppg for the 1990-91 season, at the age of 34.
Finally, I'm not comparing the 2, but you know damn well that Team USA would still easily win the gold medal with Galis in young Jordan's place and that Greece of the early 80's would still not be a powerhouse with young Jordan in Galis' place.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=LJJ]50 points when you are weathered professional in your prime, during an exhibition game against 19 year old amateur kids? Unbelievable ball hogging and bad sportsmanship by Galis.
Jordan went on to lead the USA to the Olympic gold medal two years later, with a team that didn't even feature any of the best US players. Galis couldn't even lead Greece to an Olympic qualification.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
OWNED.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
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Oh wow :applause:
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jo
[QUOTE=Psileas]When it comes to the bolded one, and going by the rest of your quote, this must just have been good sportsmanship on behalf of the professionals, letting 19 year old amateur kids beat them...
No, Galis wasn't in his prime in the early 80's, unless you also believe that Jordan was at his absolute prime in '87, because of averaging a career-high in scoring (and that's after an injury, btw). Galis' absolute prime came somewhat late in his career, between '87 and '90 and would last a bit more if he didn't get a pretty serious foot injury that prevented him from playing in the 1990 World Championship. When the injury healed, he still averaged 37.0 ppg for the 1990-91 season, at the age of 34.
Finally, I'm not comparing the 2, but you know damn well that Team USA would still
easily win the gold medal with Galis in young Jordan's place and that Greece of the early 80's would still not be a powerhouse with young Jordan in Galis' place.[/QUOTE]
Hold on
why all of a sudden
Galis is relevant here
Seton never even made to March Madness
When Galis was playing there
You look at Seton Hall retired numbers
you don't see Galis jersey
Hanging around the rafters.
Galis never played for USA
Because he can't even lead team
in the NCAA tournament
Why you putting his numbers in Europe
Like it was supposed to mean something
McAdoo who can't even get an NBA gig
His corpse was transplanted over
and dominated in the same time frame.
26 and 10 and the title.
Something Galis could never accomplished.
LMAO
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Psileas]When it comes to the bolded one, and going by the rest of your quote, this must just have been good sportsmanship on behalf of the professionals, letting 19 year old amateur kids beat them...
No, Galis wasn't in his prime in the early 80's, unless you also believe that Jordan was at his absolute prime in '87, because of averaging a career-high in scoring (and that's after an injury, btw). Galis' absolute prime came somewhat late in his career, between '87 and '90 and would last a bit more if he didn't get a pretty serious foot injury that prevented him from playing in the 1990 World Championship. When the injury healed, he still averaged 37.0 ppg for the 1990-91 season, at the age of 34.
Finally, I'm not comparing the 2, but you know damn well that Team USA would still easily win the gold medal with Galis in young Jordan's place and that Greece of the early 80's would still not be a powerhouse with young Jordan in Galis' place.[/QUOTE]
Ignore LJJ. He is a huge troll. He claimed in another thread that he "watched Galis play in person" and then went on to claim "Adam Morrison and Nick Galis had the same exact skill set and style of play."....................
:facepalm
Never mind that they literally would be polar opposites in how they played.
The guy is just a pure troll.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jo
[QUOTE=Rooster]Hold on
why all of a sudden
Galis is relevant here
Seton never even made to March Madness
When Galis was playing there
You look at Seton Hall retired numbers
you don't see Galis jersey
Hanging around the rafters.
Galis never played for USA
Because he can't even lead team
in the NCAA tournament
Why you putting his numbers in Europe
Like it was supposed to mean something
McAdoo who can't even get an NBA gig
His corpse was transplanted over
and dominated in the same time frame.
26 and 10 and the title.
Something Galis could never accomplished.
LMAO[/QUOTE]
Galis was named the best player in Seton Hall history by Bill Rafftery, you tool.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jo
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Galis was named the best player in Seton Hall history by Bill Rafftery, you tool.[/QUOTE]
His coach?
If that statement holds a lot
Why the heck
Galis Jersey is not retired
Well
Galis never made it to the Big Dance
Terry Dehere did.
The scrub who can't cut it with Clips
LMAO
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Psileas]When it comes to the bolded one, and going by the rest of your quote, this must just have been good sportsmanship on behalf of the professionals, letting 19 year old amateur kids beat them...[/QUOTE]
You don't understand the difference between official competition at the second highest level where there is a lot at stake, and a friendly game of a professional team against college kids? Aaalrighty then...
[QUOTE]No, Galis wasn't in his prime in the early 80's, unless you also believe that Jordan was at his absolute prime in '87, because of averaging a career-high in scoring (and that's after an injury, btw). Galis' absolute prime came somewhat late in his career, between '87 and '90 and would last a bit more if he didn't get a pretty serious foot injury that prevented him from playing in the 1990 World Championship. When the injury healed, he still averaged 37.0 ppg for the 1990-91 season, at the age of 34.
Finally, I'm not comparing the 2, but you know damn well that Team USA would still easily win the gold medal with Galis in young Jordan's place and that Greece of the early 80's would still not be a powerhouse with young Jordan in Galis' place.[/QUOTE]
I said prime, not 'absolute prime'. Nice freestyle extrapolation of what I said. If you don't think Galis was at the start of his prime in 1982, or Jordan was at the start of his prime in 1987, then I don't know what to say.
You must really despise Greek basketball if you think a player, who is not even close to his prime, can average 44 points there.
And you must really think Jordan is god, if you think he was an MVP candidate in the NBA at a time when he was not even close to his prime at all.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=LJJ]You don't understand the difference between official competition at the second highest level where there is a lot at stake, and a friendly game of a professional team against college kids? Aaalrighty then...
I said prime, not 'absolute prime'. Nice freestyle extrapolation of what I said. If you don't think Galis was at the start of his prime in 1982, or Jordan was at the start of his prime in 1987, then I don't know what to say.
You must really despise Greek basketball if you think a player, who is not even close to his prime, can average 44 points there.
And you must really think Jordan is god, if you think he was an MVP candidate in the NBA at a time when he was not even close to his prime at all.[/QUOTE]
Galis' prime was 1987-1990 PERIOD. You are just a troll.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Galis led Greece to a victory over USSR and Sabonis at EuroBasket 1989. The SAME Soviet Union team that won the Olympics gold medal by beating Team USA in 1988. They beat the defending Olympic champions, that not even Team USA could beat.
Greece 1989 > Soviet Union 1988 > USA 1988
During the game, Sabonis had 19 points, while Galis had 45 points.
[URL="http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/4/rid/937/sid/2262/tid/291/_/1989_European_Championship_for_Men/statistic.html"]Box Score: Greece 81 - USSR 80 - Galis 45 Points - Sabonis 19 Points[/URL]
[B]Video:[/B]
(Galis is wearing the #4 white jersey)
(Sabonis is wearing the #11 red jersey)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94X7oyzlfeY[/url]
Sabonis, "the greatest European player of all time", averaged 16.4 points per game during the tournament, while Galis averaged 36.5 points per game.
[URL="http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/7324/sid/2262/tid/2792/_/1989_European_Championship_for_Men/index.html"]Sabonis: 16.4 PPG[/URL]
[URL="http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/8219/sid/2262/tid/291/_/1989_European_Championship_for_Men/index.html"]Galis: 36.5 PPG[/URL]
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Rooster]Jordan led a college team dominating every Euro scrubs has to offer.
By 28.3. Points in 1984 Olympics.
Greece never got any medal in Olympic basketball
Even with their American import Galis.
Think about it.
Young raw college boys.
Mopped the floor with grown men
From Europe.[/QUOTE]
Soviet Union beat USA in 1988 Olympics.
Same Soviet Union team lost to Greece at EuroBasket 1989.
[B]1989 Greece > 1988 Olympics gold medal medal Soviet Union > 1988 US Olympics Bronze medal USA[/B]
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Soviet Union beat USA in 1988 Olympics.
Same Soviet Union team lost to Greece at EuroBasket 1989.
[B]1989 Greece > 1988 Olympics gold medal medal Soviet Union > 1988 US Olympics Bronze medal USA[/B][/QUOTE]
College boys.
Face it
Galls never made it to the Big Dance
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Soviet Union beat USA in 1988 Olympics.
Same Soviet Union team lost to Greece at EuroBasket 1989.
[B]1989 Greece > 1988 Olympics gold medal medal Soviet Union > 1988 US Olympics Bronze medal USA[/B][/QUOTE]
The 72-10 Bulls were 2-2 against the Pacers in the regular season. Therefore Reggie Miller = Michael Jordan...
You are a perfect example of a stat scout. You know nothing about basketball. You are either a glutton for punishment or mentally handicapped. Keep it coming though. It's some of the only entertainment we get in absence of the NBA season.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Jordan > Galis > Kobe
I'm sorry fans.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=taucesays]The 72-10 Bulls were 2-2 against the Pacers in the regular season. Therefore Reggie Miller = Michael Jordan...
You are a perfect example of a stat scout. You know nothing about basketball. You are either a glutton for punishment or mentally handicapped. Keep it coming though. It's some of the only entertainment we get in absence of the NBA season.[/QUOTE]
You are a perfect example of a troll.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jo
[QUOTE=Rooster]His coach?
If that statement holds a lot
Why the heck
Galis Jersey is not retired
Well
Galis never made it to the Big Dance
Terry Dehere did.
The scrub who can't cut it with Clips
LMAO[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.shupirates.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12600&ATCLID=791880"]Seton Hall Athletic Hall of Fame[/URL]
"Nicholas Galis (1991, Basketball, 70
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Euroleague]You are a perfect example of a troll.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jo
[QUOTE=Euroleague][URL="http://www.shupirates.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12600&ATCLID=791880"]Seton Hall Athletic Hall of Fame[/URL]
"Nicholas Galis (1991, Basketball, 70
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=LJJ]You don't understand the difference between official competition at the second highest level where there is a lot at stake, and a friendly game of a professional team against college kids? Aaalrighty then...[/QUOTE]
Or maybe you don't understand the difference between a completely indifferent friendly game and a game when a new, young National team tries to prove itself and is tested against teams with a level they rarely see. Friendly game, despite meaning nothing official, does not mean a walk in the park. You honestly think a strong team like UNC or Jordan (aka, arguably most competitive player ever) did not give a damn if they saw one player torch them?
BTW, you may not know it, but when it comes to National Team records (scoring, rebounding, appearances, etc), friendly games and tournaments are also counted.
[QUOTE]I said prime, not 'absolute prime'. Nice freestyle extrapolation of what I said. If you don't think Galis was at the start of his prime in 1982, or Jordan was at the start of his prime in 1987, then I don't know what to say.[/QUOTE]
Uh, elite players without major injuries stay at a level we can call "prime" for a whole decade or even more.
If you watch him play in both his 1982 and his 1987 versions, you'll know which one is better and more complete. His 1982 one is quicker, more mobile and had a little better vertical. His 1987 version was just more complete. It's roughly like comparing 1986 Hakeem to 1994 Hakeem or '94 Shaq to 2000 Shaq.
[QUOTE]You must really despise Greek basketball if you think a player, who is not even close to his prime, can average 44 points there.
And you must really think Jordan is god, if you think he was an MVP candidate in the NBA at a time when he was not even close to his prime at all.[/QUOTE]
This is why I said "absolute" prime. Peak. Nowhere did I say "not even close".
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=Psileas]
Uh, elite players without major injuries stay at a level we can call "prime" for a whole decade or even more.
If you watch him play in both his 1982 and his 1987 versions, you'll know which one is better and more complete. His 1982 one is quicker, more mobile and had a little better vertical. His 1987 version was just more complete. It's roughly like comparing 1986 Hakeem to 1994 Hakeem or '94 Shaq to 2000 Shaq.
This is why I said "absolute" prime. Peak. Nowhere did I say "not even close".[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I said he was in his prime. I never said he was at his peak. So now you are basically saying that I was initially correct in saying Galis was in his prime in 1982 and you shouldn't have argued against it? Fine, I agree.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=LJJ]Exactly. I said he was in his prime. I never said he was at his peak. So now you are basically saying that I was initially correct in saying Galis was in his prime in 1982 and you shouldn't have argued against it? Fine, I agree.[/QUOTE]
You and I value "prime" a little differently. I'm not sure I'd equate prime with "dominance period". If I did, I should call practically his whole career his prime, yet, it's clearly absurd to compare his 24-year old version to his 32-year old one. If you want to go by pure stats or athletic ability, fine, name this his prime. But I remind you, if you enter a Shaq thread and claim that a "prime Shaq" was swept by the Pacers in '94 or that he missed the playoffs in '93, you'll get in trouble by Shaq fans, since you'd consider Shaq's prime to be the whole '93-'05 period (and similarly, Hakeem's prime to be '85-'96, K.Malone's prime to be '88-'00 etc).
Something more to consider: The 1981 (44 ppg season) or 1982 Greek leagues were significantly weaker than the 1987 or 1990 versions, especially the 1990 one. Don't think that just a few years can't make a difference in a small country. That's partially why the 1981 or 1982 Greek NT was a mediocre team and the '87-'90 team was at least among the best in Europe.
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
Nick Galis, the first American scrub to migrate to Euroleague and become a superstar.
Anthony Parker, Nate Huffman, Jordan Farmar, Bobby Brown and Sonny Weems are all eternally greatful to the great American born American trained Nick Galis:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
How does a player like Vassilis Spanoulis go from being top player in the Euroleague to doing so bad in the NBA?
2006
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Re: Nick Galis: "Euroleague Scrub" That Scored 50 points In A Game Against Michael Jordan
[QUOTE=LBJFTW]How does a player like Vassilis Spanoulis go from being top player in the Euroleague to doing so bad in the NBA?
2006