Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Kobe choked away a 4 peat against a vastly inferior team because of his selfish play.[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="6"]so kids these days think the lakers won in 2003 and were on the verge of a 4peat against the pistons? Or they think the 2003 spurs were an inferior team[/SIZE]
:biggums:
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Lebron was playing with 3 All-stars, one was a Hall of Famers in the East and choked up
Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
For Kobe to win a chamionship, you need elite wing defenders that mask his taking plays off to conserve energy on defense.
And you need a skilled low post scorer / passer and rebounder to off set Kobe's gambles on shot selection offensively.
And you need coach who can manage his primadonna issues, and pull him back when he starts to go into KoMe mode and becomes overly self indulgent on offense.
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No. Lebron is a better player than kobe and if he couldnt do it, no reason to think kobe could.
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Yes, Kobe has the winner gene. Lebron doesn't. It's just that simple. Next question. :sleeping
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I don't think any superstar could have won a championship with those cavaliers rosters.
Not even MJ.
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if lebron couldnt do it then there is no chance that kobe could
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[QUOTE=red1]if lebron couldnt do it then there is no chance that kobe could[/QUOTE]
Kobe wouldn't just give up like Lebron did against the Celtics
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[QUOTE=longtime lurker]Kobe wouldn't just give up like Lebron did against the Celtics[/QUOTE]
no he'd get blown out by 40 in the finals :roll:
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[QUOTE=longtime lurker]Kobe wouldn't just give up like Lebron did against the Celtics[/QUOTE]
I dont think he gave up at all. He had that bad game 5 but game 6 you could tell he was giving his best effort even though they lost. Celtics were just the better team since cleveland regressed defensively since they added shaq and antawn to the line-up.
Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin][SIZE="6"]so kids these days think the lakers won in 2003 and were on the verge of a 4peat against the pistons? Or they think the 2003 spurs were an inferior team[/SIZE]
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
Not sure what kids think. But Kobe's selfish play cost them another ring that much is certain.
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[QUOTE=I<3NBA]in Cleveland?
he is clearly better than Lebron James in the "willpower" department. so i'm assuming he could've just "willed" that team to a championship.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]kobe won a title with top 90-100 all time ranked pau gasoft as his 2nd best player in 2009
and no other player on the team had ever made an allstar team
prime kobe was alpha as f*CK
so to answer op... yes[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Psycho]Yes, Kobe has the winner gene. Lebron doesn't. It's just that simple. Next question. :sleeping[/QUOTE]
So in the same year why couldn't he get out of the first round?
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[QUOTE=KobeClutchAsFK]I don't think any superstar could have won a championship with those cavaliers rosters.
Not even MJ.[/QUOTE]
Why?
You don't think prime MJ could have won that boston series in 08? I'm confused as to why people think this.
The Cavs had the ball down 1 with like 1 minute left in game 7 with a much inferior version of Lebron compared to what he is now...which is still significantly behind peak MJ.
I don't know if they beat the Lakers in the finals, but a prime MJ led 08 Cavs team would have beaten the Celtics and would have been my pick to win the title.
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[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Why?
You don't think prime MJ could have won that boston series in 08? I'm confused as to why people think this.
The Cavs had the ball down 1 with like 1 minute left in game 7 with a much inferior version of Lebron compared to what he is now...which is still significantly behind peak MJ.
I don't know if they beat the Lakers in the finals, but a prime MJ led 08 Cavs team would have beaten the Celtics and would have been my pick to win the title.[/QUOTE]
That '08 Celtics, for whatever reason, couldn't play a decent road game to save their lives the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. Remember, the 37-win Hawks took them to 7 games in the first round. Boston didn't get back to their 66-win regular season groove until the ECF, where they beat what was IMO the best Detroit team of the Wallace era, and then an even greater team in LA. Even if MJ would've led Cleveland past an unbelievably out-of-sync Boston team, there's no way he would've gotten past against far superiors teams in Detroit and LA. Not with this starting lineup:
Big Z
Ben Wallace
LeBron James
Wally Szcerbiak
Delonte West
Coach: Mike Brown
There's nothing close to resembling a star player here. MJ's the GOAT, but all of his championships came on teams with Top 3 talent, on top of being coached by the greatest. The '08 Cavaliers roster is a joke in comparison.