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bmd 02-07-2013 11:50 PM

Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Wolfpacks work in perfect harmony. The most dominant is the leader of the pack. All other wolves are submissive... some are more submissive than others, but each wolf has their "place" in the pack and they do what the pack leader says.

But submissive does not mean weak. Weak ones in the pack are not cared for and will eventually die or the other wolves will kill them.

A pack CAN NEVER WORK if all of the wolves are dominant-types. The pack will fall apart and die. There would be no hierarchy. No rules. Rules and hierarchy are crucial to survival... which is why "submissive" wolves are happy being submissive. Submissive does not mean weak. Submissive wolves know their place and LIKE their place because it means it gives them the best chance to find food and survive. Wolves simply recognize a more dominant wolf than themselves and don't take it personally like a human would.


So what does this mean with regards to the Lakers?

The Lakers are going to have to figure out their place in the pack. One of them has to be the "pack leader", and the others have to fall back and submit. What you have right now is a power struggle, and it is killing the pack.

I think for the Lakers next practice, Mike D'Antoni should bring in the Dog Whisperer to teach the Lakers how to play basketball.

andremiller07 02-07-2013 11:51 PM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Is that you Cesar Milan? But you actually make really good points.

Mr. Jabbar 02-07-2013 11:53 PM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
I'd love to see Dwight and D'antoni get eaten...

boozehound 02-07-2013 11:55 PM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmd
Wolfpacks work in perfect harmony. The most dominant is the leader of the pack. All other wolves are submissive... some are more submissive than others, but each wolf has their "place" in the pack and they do what the pack leader says.

But submissive does not mean weak. Weak ones in the pack are not cared for and will eventually die or the other wolves will kill them.

A pack CAN NEVER WORK if all of the wolves are dominant-types. The pack will fall apart and die. There would be no hierarchy. No rules. Rules and hierarchy are crucial to survival... which is why "submissive" wolves are happy being submissive. Submissive does not mean weak. Submissive wolves know their place and LIKE their place because it means it gives them the best chance to find food and survive. Wolves simply recognize a more dominant wolf than themselves and don't take it personally like a human would.


So what does this mean with regards to the Lakers?

The Lakers are going to have to figure out their place in the pack. One of them has to be the "pack leader", and the others have to fall back and submit. What you have right now is a power struggle, and it is killing the pack.

I think for the Lakers next practice, Mike D'Antoni should bring in the Dog Whisperer to teach the Lakers how to play basketball.

sounds like you know very little about actual wolf ethology. All hyperbole and discovery channel specials for you eh?

bmd 02-07-2013 11:56 PM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andremiller07
Is that you Cesar Milan? But you actually make really good points.

It is me. Buy my book.


selrahc 02-07-2013 11:57 PM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
are you high?

Mr. Jabbar 02-07-2013 11:58 PM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmd
It is me. Buy my book.


:roll:

bmd 02-08-2013 12:02 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boozehound
sounds like you know very little about actual wolf ethology. All hyperbole and discovery channel specials for you eh?

Anything I said that was wrong? Straighten it out, Snoop.

iamgine 02-08-2013 12:15 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
What the Lakers have is old age and injuries to their top players.

bmd 02-08-2013 12:27 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamgine
What the Lakers have is old age and injuries to their top players.

They are all still high-level players. They have no identity. They don't play as a team. That is what happens when you put a bunch of lone wolves together and expect them to form a wolfpack.

There will be power struggles and they will figure out their hierarchy through playing and fighting.

Or maybe they'll never work together.

Legends66NBA7 02-08-2013 12:30 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Zen Master summed up this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...iEh3E#t=46 6s

iamgine 02-08-2013 12:51 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmd
They are all still high-level players. They have no identity. They don't play as a team. That is what happens when you put a bunch of lone wolves together and expect them to form a wolfpack.

There will be power struggles and they will figure out their hierarchy through playing and fighting.

Or maybe they'll never work together.

Nah, it's more old and injured. No team can survive their two best big injured.

bmd 02-08-2013 12:55 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7

Phil and I think alike.

Maybe I should get into coaching. :pimp:

boozehound 02-08-2013 12:58 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmd
Anything I said that was wrong? Straighten it out, Snoop.

well, first, the analogy is silly. very silly and really not meaningful

second, wolfs have an alpha pair, male and female.

Here is a start for your studies.
http://moodleshare.org/course/view.php?id=15

bmd 02-08-2013 01:40 AM

Re: Building a basketball team is like a wolfpack / dogpack. Lakers fans should listen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boozehound
well, first, the analogy is silly. very silly and really not meaningful

second, wolfs have an alpha pair, male and female.

Here is a start for your studies.
http://moodleshare.org/course/view.php?id=15

Sorry, but you are not entirely correct. While there is an alpha male and female in the pack to describe the pair who mate, the alpha male is dominant over the whole pack.

From the National Wildlife Federation:

"Within the pack hierarchy, there are male and female hierarchies. The alpha male is dominant over the entire pack, both males and females. The alpha female and male are the only ones that breed."

http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/wildlife...gray-wolf.aspx

Secondly, my analogy is perfect.


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