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#1 Player RIGHT NOW (According To ISH
This is only up to 40 because,The other threads gave me a idea, I want to know who you all think this is the best player NOW. Not your favourite, not your pick to be the greatest in two years, not the most accomplished player still playing. it's who is the best player.
LET THE VOTING BEGIN!
[B]Players To Consider[/B]
Tim Duncan
Lebron
Kobe
Dirk
Nash
Wade
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Tim Duncan. Man I hate him.
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Duncan. Pure lock. so, skip to numbrer 2.
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Me too. But it has to be Duncan.
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How is duncan better than kobe or lebron?
Wow he plays on a great team he must be the best....
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[QUOTE=Cannonball]How is duncan better than kobe or lebron?
Wow he plays on a great team he must be the best....[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. He's won championships with all different sets of players around him.
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You're just a homer thats why. why don't admit something when somebodys right? obvious choiuce is duncan. be alone on this one ... lol
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[QUOTE=Cannonball]How is duncan better than kobe or lebron?
Wow he plays on a great team he must be the best....[/QUOTE]
Because he makes the team the best?!?!?!
I vote duncan.
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Tim Duncan
[QUOTE]Duncan wasn't even the undisputed best PF in the game. There were many people who wanted to argue KG and Dirk over Duncan[/QUOTE]
What? Maybe 5 years ago. The debate before this season was "is he the best PF of all time" and adding another title seems to have locked that one up
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If greatness were measured by losing first round playoff series, then maybe.
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Duncan.
He has been the best player in the league for several years now (thanks to Shaq's decline).
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quit using emoticons. is that what you can only respond with? you have no knowledge about the game so you use stupid emoticons instead. wow ingorance at its limit.
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[QUOTE=BULLS]Dumbest post in ISH history? :oldlol:
Kobe has 3 titles. You don't. Nice try.[/QUOTE]
:roll: I thought the ******* scum had gone into hibernation every since Kobe's now annual first round bounce. Guess not.
Duncan is the greatest PF to ever play the game and he's still in his prime. Easy easy choice.
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[QUOTE]He can't in any way change the game on the offensive end the way Kobe can.[/QUOTE]
He can come very close. How do you think Tony Parker gets so many layups and points in the paint in general? How do Bowen, Ginobilli and others get such great looks from 3? It all starts with Duncan and the attention he commands.
And Kobe can't in any way change the game on the defensive end the way Duncan can.
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[QUOTE=BULLS]I forgot more about this game than you ever knew. Duncan is not even close to being the best player in the game, period. Who cares if he has 4 rings? He can't in any way change the game on the offensive end the way Kobe can. Nobody in the history of the game other than Jordan could.[/QUOTE]
So, you're in it for the stats? Ignorance, again at its peek. All you care about are stats, indivual talents? Kobe's a failure, kind of like you in a way. He has no team play involved so yeah, get off his nuts.
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For me, it's between Kobe, Duncan, and possibly Wade/Lebron. Duncan seems to be the consensus pick so far, so i'll go with that. Top pf of all-time. Led his team to the championship last year. Arguably the best defensive player in the game last year, still putting up >20/10/2, he's my pick.
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Oh I get it now. Guess I never read any of his posts before. I didn't know Bulls was one of those joke accounts to rile people up with ridiculous claims.
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[QUOTE=BULLS]
Malone > Duncan
Kobe > Duncan
Wade > Duncan
LeBron > Duncan[/QUOTE]
:roll:
guy must be in nursery. do you know your abc's yet?
guy bases a player on individual talent. guy should be banned for being this ****ing stupid.
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kobe's a winner? funniest **** i've heard in weeks. how come he never advanced to the 2nd round yet with out big daddy shaq? of course, that's a winner. :roll:
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my vote goes 2 kobe.
3 titles 2 scoring titles 81 point game string of 50 point games. it has 2 be kobe.
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[QUOTE=mavsfan4zindagi]:roll: I thought the ******* scum had gone into hibernation every since Kobe's now annual first round bounce. Guess not.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. How about you come up with your own sh!t instead of copying Knoe the Hoe.
Stupid dimwit.
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[QUOTE]Dumbest post in ISH history?
Kobe has 3 titles. You don't. Nice try.[/QUOTE]
As the second best player on his team.
[QUOTE]I forgot more about this game than you ever knew. Duncan is not even close to being the best player in the game, period. Who cares if he has 4 rings? He can't in any way change the game on the offensive end the way Kobe can. Nobody in the history of the game other than Jordan could.[/QUOTE]
There's a whole other end of the court that Duncan dominates in a manner that wins. Kobe's offensive arsenal, as good as it is, has proven to do nothing for anyone but himself. Guys who [B]change the game[/B] don't fail to win a playoff series during three straight years of their prime.
I'm sure your the kind of jackass who's team loses in a pickup game 11-7, but you scored 6 of the 7, so you sit on the sideline with a stupid grin on your face, then whine like a little ***** when you don't get picked up for the next game. What you know about basketball wouldn't fill a shoebox. This has been evidenced by your repeated use of the same [B]two gimmicks[/B] since you've reappeared here.
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[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]As the second best player on his team.
There's a whole other end of the court that Duncan dominates in a manner that wins. Kobe's offensive arsenal, as good as it is, has proven to do nothing for anyone but himself. Guys who [B]change the game[/B] don't fail to win a playoff series during three straight years of their prime.
I'm sure your the kind of jackass who's team loses in a pickup game 11-7, but you scored 6 of the 7, so you sit on the sideline with a stupid grin on your face, then whine like a little ***** when you don't get picked up for the next game. What you know about basketball wouldn't fill a shoebox. This has been evidenced by your repeated use of the same [B]two gimmicks[/B] since you've reappeared here.[/QUOTE]
One of the better mean-spirited slams I've ever read. :applause:
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[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]
There's a whole other end of the court that Duncan dominates in a manner that wins. Kobe's offensive arsenal, as good as it is, has proven to do nothing for anyone but himself. Guys who [B]change the game[/B] don't fail to win a playoff series during three straight years of their prime.
I'm sure your the kind of jackass who's team loses in a pickup game 11-7, but you scored 6 of the 7, so you sit on the sideline with a stupid grin on your face, then whine like a little ***** when you don't get picked up for the next game. What you know about basketball wouldn't fill a shoebox. This has been evidenced by your repeated use of the same [B]two gimmicks[/B] since you've reappeared here.[/QUOTE]
just wondering did u watch the start of the season last year?? kobe was changing the game helping his players he was in serious contention for the MVP. it wasn't until injuries that that fkd up the teams chances n chemistry.
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First time i've seen Thorpe get mad (haven't been here that long so yeah). Though, he should, it's virtually a crime to be this ignorant (referring to BULLS' logic and knowledge).
Honestly, I think BULLS is Poseidon. Against all odds, Poseidon is against Duncan in every manner. Using emoticons for half of their posts. Calling people stupid and whatnot. It's him.
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Kobe was the 2nd best player on that team. Without Kobe Shaq one another team. Without Shaq
kobe can't do anything
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[QUOTE=BULLS]No, he was actually the best player on his team.
Shaq was the most dominant. As in all cases, the big man will always be considered as the #1 option.
Shaq would have done nothing without Kobe.[/QUOTE]
:roll: Vice versa stupid.
[QUOTE]Kobe's team, as bad as it is, has proven to do nothing but fail, game after game.
Put Duncan on the Lakers and see if they even make the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Spurs isn't great of a team, honestly. The way they were meshed -- it was all anchored around Duncan. You actually think if Kobe was there, they'd win those 4 rings? No. He'd basically ruin their chemistry.
[QUOTE]I'm sure you're the type of scrub who everyone considers a 5th option, but you touch the ball about one time a game, and celebrate when your team wins, although you had no impact on the game whatsoever.
Kobe can do whatever he wants because he's that good. Duncan is not. He needs a great team, like everyone.[/QUOTE]
How do you get so deeply detailed? Probably because that's your sitatuation when you play basketball.
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[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]There's a whole other end of the court that Duncan dominates in a manner that wins. Kobe's offensive arsenal, as good as it is, has proven to do nothing for anyone but himself. Guys who [B]change the game[/B] don't fail to win a playoff series during three straight years of their prime.
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Why to you people measure how good a player is by his team?
You put duncan on the lakers without kobe he doesn't get out of the first round either... The suns would p0wn his ass.
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[QUOTE=jo3y91]just wondering did u watch the start of the season last year?? kobe was changing the game helping his players he was in serious contention for the MVP. it wasn't until injuries that that fkd up the teams chances n chemistry.[/QUOTE]
helping his players? nah. saw that in the Shaq days though. :roll:
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These guys minds are so .. freaking childish. They remain to be hooked on stats, individual talent and dont take things like team success into consideration. Guys like Cannonball and BULLS must have just graduated from junior high.
Stats? LMFAO;
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[QUOTE]No, he was actually the best player on his team.
Shaq was the most dominant. As in all cases, the big man will always be considered as the #1 option.
Shaq would have done nothing without Kobe. [/QUOTE]
Mega omg no. Shaq was killing people out there. You are an idiot if you think kobe was better than Shaq... Wow just wow.
[QUOTE]Kobe's team, as bad as it is, has proven to do nothing but fail, game after game.
Put Duncan on the Lakers and see if they even make the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
They make the P/o's then lose to the suns.
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[QUOTE=BULLS]Shaq "one" with Wade.
Shaq would have won nothing without Wade
Shaq would have won nothing without Kobe.[/QUOTE]
so.. Kobe still is top 3. Not top 1.
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[QUOTE=Odenorbust]Kobe was the 2nd best player on that team. Without Kobe Shaq one another team. Without Shaq
kobe can't do anything[/QUOTE]
and without kobe shaq wouldnt have won.:)
i vote kobe.
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL9lORmoBFs[/url]
not a rick and roll
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kobe is the best single player right now.
duncan is the most dominant team player right now.
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[QUOTE=BULLS]So you think Kobe was the most dominant on that team? Fool. :oldlol: [/QUOTE]
he was the sidekick dumbass. shaq was the most dominant and was the best player.
dumbass alert. go back to school.
[QUOTE]:oldlol:
Learn basketball. Chemistry has little to do with it. Kobe freaking Bryant will ruin chemistry, LOL. That's your argument? You are pathetic.
If Kobe was there, they wouldn't have been eliminated by Dallas in 06, and would have won 5 titles at least.[/QUOTE]
Chemistry has everything to do with it. telling people to learn basketball should be the last thing you should be telling to people. you should. Kobe bryant would look like an idiot playing for the sputs. hogging every possession.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: 5 titles? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: