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Jordan Says Only 4 Current Player Could Play in His Era
[QUOTE]JORDAN PLAYS his new favorite trivia game, asking which current players could be nearly as successful in his era. "Our era," he says over and over again, calling modern players soft, coddled and ill-prepared for the highest level of the game. This is personal to him, since he'll be compared to this generation, and since he has to build a franchise with this generation's players.
"I'll give you a hint," he says. "I can only come up with four."
He lists them: [B]LeBron, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzk[/B]i. [/QUOTE]
[URL="http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Michael-Jordan/michael-jordan-not-left-building"]http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Michael-Jordan/michael-jordan-not-left-building[/URL]
No KG, Wade, Durant, etc?
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Dirk is pretty soft, if that's what MJ was basing his statement off of.
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:facepalm
Typical "back in our day...." garbage that all old people are prone to do. Nothing to be taken seriously here.
Anybody today would be able to to play in ANY era, and be just as successful in it period
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DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRK! Suck it haters :rockon:
PS: Michael's opinion sucks anyway
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[QUOTE=Indian guy]:facepalm
Typical "back in our day...." garbage that all old people are prone to do. Nothing to be taken seriously here.
Anybody today would be able to to play in ANY era, and be just as successful in it period[/QUOTE]
"MJ fan" :oldlol:
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I absolutely agree actually. Wade *****s way way too much to make it in that era, Durant is too weak, KG...idk he could probably do it but who knows how he'd deal with real tough guys.
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basketball, in the present, will always be at a higher level then the past
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Much of Garnett has been false bravado and manic 'look how crazy i am' posturing.. If he were to have played in the 'bad boys' era or in the knicks vs heat brawling type era, where rough play was permitted.. he wouldnt be the menacing KG that we know now. He would be a tough great defensive player but he would be one in a pool of many.
I would have liked to see him go all 'Your wife smells like cheerios' to Charles Oakley :oldlol:
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I love MJ but only 4 players is nonsense. KG would definitely be able to handle his own. As a 21 year old he put up 18 pts 10 rebs 4 assts 2 stls 2 blocks in 1997-1998, the last year Jordan played for the Bulls. In his Prime, KG would be more than able to handle the OLD era. Ray Allen was good back then, not to mention Jason Kidd possibly.
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Kevin Durant too skinny and weak? Look at the skeletal Reggie Miller, got most of the shots he wanted and he did play against the Bad Boy pistons, Bulls, Knicks and Heat. None argues Miller was better than Durant.
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I have a hard time believing the expansion team Raptors would give Wade many problems
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker][URL="http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Michael-Jordan/michael-jordan-not-left-building"]http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Michael-Jordan/michael-jordan-not-left-building[/URL]
No KG, Wade, Durant, etc?[/QUOTE]
He said could be AS successful. He's not saying they couldn't play in that era.
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Come to think about it, MJ once again is going by ring count in mentioning these 4 players, as between them they have won 11 of the last 14 championships (since MJ retired).
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[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]basketball, in the present, will always be at a higher level then the past[/QUOTE]
Orlando Dwight wouldn't even make 3rd team All-NBA in MJ's era. I would take Shaq, Zo, Hakeem, Drob and Ewing over him easily.
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Everyone in the NBA could play during Jordan's era. Especially wings, Jordans era had scrub wings.
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[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]basketball, in the present, will always be at a higher level then the past[/QUOTE]
Durant would be about as good be as prime Dale Ellis, and that's the 2nd best player in today's league :lol
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[QUOTE=tontoz]Orlando Dwight wouldn't even make 3rd team All-NBA in MJ's era. I would take Shaq, Zo, Hakeem, Drob and Ewing over him easily.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Dwight would still be one of the top Centers though. Bynum would be good too IMO. All other positions I see them doing better because the players are bigger and faster and stronger now.
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[QUOTE=NA2126]Dirk is pretty soft, if that's what MJ was basing his statement off of.[/QUOTE]
dirk? soft? What is this 2001?
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[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]Yeah Dwight would still be one of the top Centers though. Bynum would be good too IMO. All other positions I see them doing better because the players are bigger and faster and stronger now.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
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[I]The quote was:[/I]
[QUOTE] which current players could be nearly as successful in his era. [/QUOTE]
People need to actually read what they are commenting on.
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He said "successful", and we all know successful means rings as the man of the team.
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Could you imagine Paul Pierce guarded by studs like Gerald Wilkins and Craig Ehlo? Dude would be a scrub. Vincent Askew and Sasha Danilovic in today's NBA would be an all-stars :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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[QUOTE=DirkNowitzki41]dirk? soft? What is this 2001?[/QUOTE]
Yea, the Dirk is "soft" myth needs to die already. The guy gets hacked like crazy.
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[QUOTE=tontoz]Orlando Dwight wouldn't even make 3rd team All-NBA in MJ's era. I would take Shaq, Zo, Hakeem, Drob and Ewing over him easily.[/QUOTE]
Not every single season. Hakeem missed the All-NBA Team in 1992. Brad Daugherty made it ahead of him (and Hakeem didn't miss games). Daugherty is flat out not as good as Howard.
Zo missed the All-NBA Team in 1998, with both Hakeem and Ewing missing much of the season. Dikembe made it ahead of him and Dikembe is flat out not as good as Howard. Even in 97, Shaq missed a bunch of time and Robinson missed all but 6 games. Howard in 2011 would have made that team ahead of O'Neal. He would have made the 1st team.
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[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]I absolutely agree actually. Wade *****s way way too much to make it in that era, Durant is too weak, KG...idk he could probably do it but who knows how he'd deal with real tough guys.[/QUOTE]
Wade may ***** a lot, but that doesn't mean he still isn't tough and strong enough to play in that era.
He would simply have to adjust his attitude, and I think he could.
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:facepalm MJ gone straight senile. he talking about "our era" like he played in some Homeric Herculean age of mythical warriors and legends or some shit. he was still playing 15 years ago, or is that not included in his era? there are players that have bridged MJ's prime and current player's early years without significant difference in their ability to compete.
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I think that u should always believe in yourself and your peers in terms of greatness. I do think overall that the Golden Era back in the 80's and early 90's had more depth in terms of great talent. But to say ONLY FOUR! LMBAO. For starters, the 2000's era SG's are the greatest era of SG's of all time. Other than MJ and Drexler, Kobe, Wade, AI, Vince, T Mac, Ray Allen, Ginobli, and Pierce while he was at SG would completely overtake the SG spot. Other than Barkley and Malone, many of the PF's of that era would get overtaken as well. What's keeping MJ's era strong in comparison in terms of position depth is center and small forward. Point guard depth today from top to bottom is as good as ever. The only thing is those guys back in MJ's era were true technicians in the art of being a floor general and their era was damn deep at PG too. Many of today's PG's are more hybrid or combo guards playing PG. So for those reasons I would take the PG depth back then over today. But in my book, the main difference to me is the SF and C depth MJ's era had.
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He's referring to the ones who have been successful. So he's basically leaving out KG and Wade. Maybe he sees KG as part of the 90s and Wade being successful because of the rule changes.
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he only named guys with rings.
to mj, rings are everything. it's his subtle way of telling everybody he's always above magic and bird, no discussion.
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Like Nash said, the wings in Jordan's era were trash. I like Reggie Miller a lot, but he would be no better than Joe Johnson in today's NBA
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[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]Come to think about it, MJ once again is going by ring count in mentioning these 4 players, as between them they have won 11 of the last 14 championships (since MJ retired).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]
Like Nash said, [B]the wings in Jordan's era were trash[/B]. I like Reggie Miller a lot, but he would be no better than Joe Johnson in today's NBA[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
We live in an era of wings today, back then in the NBA it was all about front courts.
This makes what Lebron has done look ever better.
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It's hilarious just try and think of players that would had to defend Lebron back in "MJ's era"
Ehlo, Dumars, payton LOL
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[QUOTE=STATUTORY]It's hilarious just try and think of players that would had to defend Lebron back in "MJ's era"
Ehlo, Dumars, payton LOL[/QUOTE]
Don't forget this guy :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Vincent Askew and Sasha Danilovic in today's NBA would be an all-stars :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
If Kirilenko, Manu or Peja could make it to the all-star, yeah Sasha Danilovic would have very little problem doing so as well. Sasha Danilovic had to dominate Europe to even get an invitation to the league, as opposed to a bunch of unproven or mediocre junk that is constantly being dragged from Europe (or wherever outside of the States) now. Sasha Djordjevic, one of the most dominant European PG's of all time couldn't even do anything, today you have Barea averaging 11, 6 in 25 minutes :lol
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Jordan acting like a petty child since Lebron started getting tons of attention. WHAT A SHOCK.
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[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]I absolutely agree actually. Wade *****s way way too much to make it in that era, Durant is too weak, KG...idk he could probably do it but who knows how he'd deal with real tough guys.[/QUOTE]
So Dwyane Wade wouldn't be able to hold his own against the '90s Grizzlies, Wolves, Raptors or Heat?
I will grant you that Vancouver Grizzlies roster was absolutely killer:
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Greg Anthony
Pete Chilcutt
Blue Edwards
Eric Leckner
George Lynch
Rich Manning
Lee Mayberry
Eric Mobley
Lawrence Moten
Moochie Norris
Anthony Peeler
Bryant Reeves
Chris Robinson
Roy Rogers
Aaron Williams
with a stellar record of 14-68 I'm sure they would easily stomp on any team of this season? They'd probly go 68-14 this year, right?
Jordan had to play against [I]those [/I]guys!!
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Like Nash said, the wings in Jordan's era were trash. I like Reggie Miller a lot, but he would be no better than Joe Johnson in today's NBA[/QUOTE]
Jordan's era didn't start with the 95 expansion. Late 80's and early 90's in general had much better wings than the league has today.