2001 Kobe maybe most underrated season ever
averaged 28.5 PPG to Shaq's 28.7 in the regular season and averaged 29.4 to Shaq's 30.4 in the playoffs. Kobe was 22 years old at the time which makes it most impressive. Shaq was 28. and keep in mind Shaq is a center in his prime vs Kobe as a wing/guard.
the way I remember it is that Kobe was arguably the most feared player in the league for the 01 and 02 seasons. maybe somebody remembers different but when people refer to him as being a second banana to me that's a bit misleading.
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1a/1b, 1b/1a depending on what u had for breakfast
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Everyone that doesn't have an agenda knows kobe was a superstar and top 5 player those years, and was huge for the lakers in the playoffs.
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[QUOTE=allball]averaged 28.5 PPG to Shaq's 28.7 in the regular season and averaged 29.4 to Shaq's 30.4 in the playoffs. Kobe was 22 years old at the time which makes it most impressive. Shaq was 28. and keep in mind Shaq is a center in his prime vs Kobe as a wing/guard.
[B]the way I remember it is that Kobe was arguably the most feared player in the league for the 01 and 02 seasons.[/B] maybe somebody remembers different but when people refer to him as being a second banana to me that's a bit misleading.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]1a/1b, 1b/1a depending on what u had for breakfast[/QUOTE]
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Lol @ idiots who want to pretend this ring doesn't count but Duncan's 2014 ring is legacy-defining. Pop could give Duncan a DNP and the Spurs would be tough to beat.
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FroBe was the best. When did he become such a bitch?
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[QUOTE=ThePhantomCreep]Lol @ idiots who want to pretend this ring doesn't count but Duncan's 2014 ring is legacy-defining. Pop could give Duncan a DNP and the Spurs would be tough to beat.[/QUOTE]
No one says it doesn't count. At least no one that isn't blatantly trolling. So why even bring it up?
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Kobe Bryant 2001: 28 points.... 55 TS%, 48 eFG%, 11.3 WS
Ray Allen 2001: 22 points... 61 TS%, 55.7 eFG%, 13.7 WS
If Ray wanted to chuck he could have easily achieved Kobe's numbers on the same percentage. Ray would have been an even better compliment to Shaq and probably would have won more rings. Kobe probably would have failed to make the playoffs or lost in the first round a bunch of times on Ray's Bucks :confusedshrug:
Just because Kobe is history's worst ballhog doesn't mean he's doing things other NBA players can't. There are just other guys in the league smart enough to know that if you're playing with prime Shaq, why would you have a 31.8% usage rate :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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I guess if your choice is to fight against "colluding". MVP sounds nice.
Because no matter what happens, no one is going to take THAT away from you.
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[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Kobe Bryant 2001: 28 points.... 55 TS%, 48 eFG%, 11.3 WS
Ray Allen 2001: 22 points... 61 TS%, 55.7 eFG%, 13.7 WS
If Ray wanted to chuck he could have easily achieved Kobe's numbers on the same percentage. Ray would have been an even better compliment to Shaq and probably would have won more rings. Kobe probably would have failed to make the playoffs or lost in the first round a bunch of times on Ray's Bucks :confusedshrug:
Just because Kobe is history's worst ballhog doesn't mean he's doing things other NBA players can't. There are just other guys in the league smart enough to know that if you're playing with prime Shaq, why would you have a 31.8% usage rate :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Kobe Bryant 2001: 28 points.... 55 TS%, 48 eFG%, 11.3 WS
Ray Allen 2001: 22 points... 61 TS%, 55.7 eFG%, 13.7 WS
If Ray wanted to chuck he could have easily achieved Kobe's numbers on the same percentage. Ray would have been an even better compliment to Shaq and probably would have won more rings. Kobe probably would have failed to make the playoffs or lost in the first round a bunch of times on Ray's Bucks :confusedshrug:
Just because Kobe is history's worst ballhog doesn't mean he's doing things other NBA players can't. There are just other guys in the league smart enough to know that if you're playing with prime Shaq, why would you have a 31.8% usage rate :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
none of that has anything to do with how impressive this season was. he was only 22 and you could argue he was as good as anyone in the league that year.
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[QUOTE=allball]none of that has anything to do with how impressive this season was. he was only 22 and you could argue he was as good as anyone in the league that year.[/QUOTE]
because of his point totals???
bro, gilbert arenas could have done what kobe did if he was healthy long enough. taking a bunch of shots to score 28 points on so-so efficiency is not what makes you a good basketball player.
The league average shooting percentage is 46%. Kobe shoots 46%. The Denver Nuggets could achieve as a team with a bunch of role players what a team with Kobe taking all the shots does, if all other parts are equal. Luckily for Kobrick, he's had the most dominant frontcourts in the game to carry him to titles.
Deal with it.
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Gilbert Arenas 2005: 29 points, 58 TS%, 55 eFG% 27 AST%, 13.6 WS
Kobe Bryant 2001: 28 points, 55 TS% 48 eFG% 23 AST%, 11 WS
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