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he might be more complete than magic johnson
Maybe, but Oscar and Bird could both be argued.
nah, I dont think so. Hes the most athletic or something like that. And has a hell of a well rounded game. Dont think its the most complete ever though.
[QUOTE=Mirko Cro Cop]Is LeBron the most complete player the game has ever seen?[/QUOTE]
No, you haven't seen a lot of basketball. And no, watching Iverson while you were in Diapers doesn't count.
He's up there with bird/BigO/mj
[QUOTE=PistolPete44]he might be more complete than magic johnson[/QUOTE]
Magic wasn't as good defensively though.
Jordan :confusedshrug:
Right there with Bird, Magic and Oscar. Probably will be by the end of his career.
Kevin Garnett.
i love how people suggest magic as being one of the most complete players ever... we arent just talking one side of the ball...
the only people in the discussion are james, jordan and bird
We clearly don't have enough threads talking about how amazing Lebron is. I mean, wow. He really is something, isn't he?
[QUOTE=Myth]Jordan :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Nah. MJ overall wins, but we're not talking overall, we're talking about someone who is very good in all things.
MJ:
Scoring: 10
Man on man defense: 10
Overall defense: 9.5
Passing: 7.5
Rebounding:7.5
Lebron gets at least 8.5 in all categories. Not many people would.
Lebron:
Scoring: 9
Man on Man defense: 8.5
Overall defense: 9
Passing: 9.5
Rebounding: 8.5
Bird might as well...idk, that was before my time.
Maybe Prime Grant Hill as well...but i don't know...his defense was weak, he was a better defender in Phoenix 3 yrs ago than he was in his prime.
Scottie Pippen probably makes at least 8.5 in all categories too.
Why not...?
At 6'9-260:
*Probably the best combination of size/speed/strengh/quickness/agility/stamina etc. ever
*PG skills (ballhandling/passing) only Magic had at that size and over
*Can guard basically all positions like only Scottie Pippen could.
*Can play basically all positions like only Magic Johnson could.
*Is arguably because of above the most versatile player ever overall.
*Can score with the best ever, all-time great volume scoring to efficiency ratio from the perimeter, scoring arsenal, good shooter (except from the FT line) and everything...
*Can rebound, can give you 10 a game if he wanted, same goes with assists...
*Fantastic bball IQ, leadership, intangibles etc.
The only "weakness" is his FT accuracy (75%).... except for that he is pretty much as close to "most complete" a player could realistically ever get....
[QUOTE=pauk]Why not...?
At 6'9-260:
*Probably the best combination of size/speed/strengh/quickness/agility/stamina etc. ever
*PG skills (ballhandling/passing) only Magic had at that size and over
*Can guard basically all positions like only Scottie Pippen could.
*Can play basically all positions like only Magic Johnson could.
*Is arguably because of above the most versatile player ever overall.
*Can score with the best ever, all-time great volume scoring to efficiency ratio from the perimeter, scoring arsenal, good shooter (except from the FT line) and everything...
*Can rebound, can give you 10 a game if he wanted, same goes with assists...
*Fantastic bball IQ, leadership, intangibles etc.
The only "weakness" is his FT accuracy (75%).... except for that he is pretty much as close to "most complete" a player could realistically ever get....[/QUOTE]
So awesome. I'm fapping to that list.