Karl Malone on Dan Patrick Show "Charles is the 3d Best PF, Duncan is a Center...

[QUOTE=Magic 32]You don't get to be the greatest at your position when you do this:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPBLeb8h9Ts&t=5m19s[/url][/QUOTE]

The Mailman doesn't deliver on Sundays.

Duncan is a center. The only reason people think of him as a PF is because the Spurs already have David Robinson.

^ possibly the most regurgitated statement

do these guys ring a bell?

- Rasho Nesterovic
- Nazr Mohammed
- Fabricio Oberto
- Francisco Elson
- Tiago Splitter
- Kurt Thomas
- Jackie Butler
- Theo Ratliff
- Ian Mahinmi

Immediately after after Robinson retired, Spurs courted Alonzo Mourning (C) and Rasho Nesterovic (C).

Two seasons after Robinson retired, Spurs traded Malik Rose (PF) for Nazr Mohammed (C) who became the starting center.

After that season, Spurs sat on Scola's rights (eventually traded for a center, Jackie Butler) and signed Oberto, Argentina's starting center, to a 3-year deal. They also signed Francisco Elson (C) from Denver.

[quote=ESPN, July 14 2005]Oberto is a warrior in the paint with polished moves around the post. He's a good scorer, rebounder and defender who has the toughness and aggressiveness to be an excellent role player in the league. He's also a great passer in the post and frequently draws comparisons to Divac on that skill. [B]Don't be surprised if he is the Spurs starting center on opening night.[/B][/quote]

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2107750[/url]

I just found this

[B]2000-01 Shooting Splits [/B]

[QUOTE][B](FG Made At the Rim / Tot FG Made)[/B]

Camby (C) -76.3%
Shaq (C) - 60.1%
Mutombo (C) - 59.3%
Robinson (C) - 57.7%
Divac (C) - 55.9%


Malone (PF) -45.5%
Webber (PF) - 39.1%
Duncan (PF) -38.1%
Garnett (PF) -33.0%
Dirk (PF) - 31.4%[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B](FG Made 3 to 9 ft / Tot FG Made)[/B]

Shaq (C) - 33.3%
Mutombo (C) - 31.8%
Duncan (PF) - 29.7%
Divac (C) - 26.0%
Garnett (PF) -22.7%
Webber (PF) -21.0%
Camby (C) -13.4%
Robinson (C) -13.1%
Malone (PF) - 8.3%
Dirk (PF) - 6.2%[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B](FG Made 10 to 15 ft / Tot FG Made)[/B]

Duncan (PF) - 21.0%
Robinson (C) - 20.8%
Garnett (PF) - 18.6%
Dirk (PF) - 17.7%
Malone (PF) - 16.8%
Webber (PF) -10.0%


Camby (C) -9.6%
Mutombo (C) -8.9%
Shaq (C) - 6.5%
Divac (C) - 5.4%[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B](FG Made 16 ft to 3 pt / Tot FG Made)[/B]

Webber (PF) -29.7%
Malone (PF) - 28.9%
Garnett (PF) - 23.1%
Dirk (PF) - 19.8%
Divac (C) - 11.5%
Duncan (PF) - 10.2%


Robinson (C) - 8.4%
Camby (C) -3.2%
Shaq (C) - 0.2%
Mutombo (C) -0.0%
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B](FG Made 3-pt / Tot FG Made)[/B]

Dirk (PF) - 24.8%
Garnett (PF) - 2.6%
Divac (C) - 1.3%
Duncan (PF) - 1.0%
Malone (PF) - 0.4%
Camby (C) -0.3%
Webber (PF) -0.2%
Robinson (C) - 0.0%
Shaq (C) - 0.0%
Mutombo (C) -0.0%
[/QUOTE]

He's right though, Duncan always has and always will be a Center, not a PF.

By today's standards, Duncan is a C.

Most of the best PF's in the game have converted to playing C's. Pau, KG, and Bosh. Heck, even the Clippers use LO as a C sometimes.

If Duncan were playing in Malone/Barkley's era, he would be considered a PF.

I also think that Barkley was the better PF. He never had a Stockton feeding him, and if he did, he might have been even more effective.

Malone is right. He is the best 4 ever, Barkley #2, and Duncan is a center.

[QUOTE=scm5]By today's standards, Duncan is a C.

Most of the best PF's in the game have converted to playing C's. Pau, KG, and Bosh. Heck, even the Clippers use LO as a C sometimes.

If Duncan were playing in Malone/Barkley's era, he would be considered a PF.

I also think that Barkley was the better PF. He never had a Stockton feeding him, and if he did, he might have been even more effective.[/QUOTE]



No, why do people keep repeating this? No, he's not. He played PF because of Robinson, not for any other reason. In no era would Duncan ever be a PF.



That's it.

[QUOTE=Whoah10115]No, why do people keep repeating this? No, he's not. He played PF because of Robinson, not for any other reason. In no era would Duncan ever be a PF.



That's it.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, just because you say so doesn't make it true. The NBA and Spurs have him listed officially as a PF. And that's what he'll go down as - the GOAT PF.

[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Malone is right. He is the best 4 ever, Barkley #2, and Duncan is a center.[/QUOTE]

No, he's certainly is not right about being the GOAT PF, even if I was to go with Duncan being a center.

And he said Barkley was a "distant" 3rd.

Duncan has way too much of an outside game to be considered purely a center.

#1 PF of all-time :applause:

[B]Barkley is Clearly The Best PF Ever.

And Yes, People Where Calling Him the 2nd Best Player in the Game in 1992

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNvY93EmWc[/url]

Minute: 2:44

[I]"For The Majority, the 2nd Best Player in the Game after Michael Jordan" (In Italian)[/I]

Minute: 3:19

[I]"He is Not Over 1.95 mt"[/I] (In Italian) that is 6`4 3/4 ft"


And Coach Chuck Daily said He Was The 2nd Best Player after Jordan that same Year.[/B]

Malone and Barkley cancel each other out. Chuck's peak is way more impressive, legit MVP caliber in '90 and '93, all-time high level. But Malone's superior longevity and ELITE twilight cancel it out. I don't feel comfortable ranking one or the other over each other. Plus, neither has a ring. I vote best PF:

Kevin Garnett. He has peak play at the caliber of Chuck, he has the longevity of Malone, and he has a RING !!!

KG is more of a legit PF than Tim Duncan. Duncan always was a center. Even when he played with D-Rob, he played like a center.

[QUOTE=Money 23]Malone and Barkley cancel each other out. Chuck's peak is way more impressive, legit MVP caliber in '90 and '93, all-time high level. But Malone's superior longevity and ELITE twilight cancel it out. I don't feel comfortable ranking one or the other over each other. Plus, neither has a ring. I vote best PF:

Kevin Garnett. He has peak play at the caliber of Chuck, he has the longevity of Malone, and he has a RING !!!

KG is more of a legit PF than Tim Duncan. Duncan always was a center. Even when he played with D-Rob, he played like a center.[/QUOTE]

[B]Do You Think Kevin Garnett would be the 2nd Best Player after Michael Jordan in 1992 like Barkley was? I Don`t Think So. :no:

Garnett is Not Reliable Offensively in the Play-Offs as a Go To Go Guy.

He is a Great All Around Player but Is Certainly Not a Go To Go Guy.[/B]

[QUOTE=TMT]Duncan has way too much of an outside game to be considered purely a center.

#1 PF of all-time :applause:[/QUOTE]

Uhhh..he has less outside game than Hakeem DRob and Ewing