I don't care how bad the supporting cast might have been. That's pathetic. No way does that happen if you replaced him with Dirk
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I don't care how bad the supporting cast might have been. That's pathetic. No way does that happen if you replaced him with Dirk
Yeah thats why Dirk will always be ranked over KG in the rankings. KG can't carry a team like Dirk can. He needs someone else to take over as the primary option. Even in Garnetts MVP year Cassell was the first option on offense when they needed a crucial bucket.
Dirk had Dallas winning 50+ games every single year and if you look at Dirks prime when he had Josh Howard as his best teammate his supporting cast wasn't even that good yet he was getting number one seeds and everything. Yet KG can't even make the playoffs? KG is a shaft rider. He needs to ride someones shaft which is why he was successful in Boston when Pierce would take over games. Good complimentary star, but not going to lead your team to a title himself.
[QUOTE=MiamiThrice]Yeah thats why Dirk will always be ranked over KG in the rankings. KG can't carry a team like Dirk can. He needs someone else to take over as the primary option. Even in Garnetts MVP year Cassell was the first option on offense when they needed a crucial bucket.
Dirk had Dallas winning 50+ games every single year and if you look at Dirks prime when he had Josh Howard as his best teammate his supporting cast wasn't even that good yet he was getting number one seeds and everything. Yet KG can't even make the playoffs? KG is a shaft rider. He needs to ride someones shaft which is why he was successful in Boston when Pierce would take over games. Good complimentary star, but not going to lead your team to a title himself.[/QUOTE]
Great post.
KG is the greatest second banana of all time
T-Mac > KG?
:facepalm I would love to have seen Dirk try to carry a team with a starting lineup of:
Trenton Hassell
Wally Szczerbiak
Marko Jaric
Michael Olowokandi
And then throw in classic bench players like:
Ricky Davis
Rashard McCants
Marcus Banks
Mark Blount
Troy Hudson
Eddie Griffin
Yeah Dirk would have made the playoffs :rolleyes:
Can anyone remember who was on the Wolves post Sprewell/Cassell, I sure can't?
Dirk as always had Michael Finley, Steve Nash, Nick Van Exel, Jason Terry, Antoine & Antawn, Devin Harris, Josh Howard, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, ect.
TROY 'F-N" Hudson.
[QUOTE=JellyBean]:facepalm I would love to have seen Dirk try to carry a team with a starting lineup of:
Trenton Hassell
Wally Szczerbiak
Marko Jaric
Michael Olowokandi
And then throw in classic bench players like:
Ricky Davis
Rashard McCants
Marcus Banks
Mark Blount
Troy Hudson
Eddie Griffin
Yeah Dirk would have made the playoffs :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Dirk would take them to the playoffs IMO. KG just isnt lead dog material
[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]T-Mac > KG?[/QUOTE]
Cooler shoes. Definitely.
[QUOTE=JellyBean]:facepalm I would love to have seen Dirk try to carry a team with a starting lineup of:
Trenton Hassell
Wally Szczerbiak
Marko Jaric
Michael Olowokandi
And then throw in classic bench players like:
Ricky Davis
Rashard McCants
Marcus Banks
Mark Blount
Troy Hudson
Eddie Griffin
Yeah Dirk would have made the playoffs :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
dirk made the playoffs with this team
dampier
antoine wright
terry
kidd
so something tells me he could have made it with KGs squads.
Kevin Garnett is more comparable to Tim Duncan than he is to Dirk Nowitzki.
I'm sure I'll get heat for saying it but the truth is that the main reason why Duncan is considered greater and better than Garnett is because he played on better teams and with much better coaches.
[QUOTE=noosaman]dirk made the playoffs with this team
dampier
antoine wright
[B]terry[/B]
[B]kidd[/B]
so something tells me he could have made it with KGs squads.[/QUOTE]
HOF PG and 6th man of the year Terry. Better than whatever KG ever had..
[QUOTE=MiamiThrice]
Dirk had Dallas winning 50+ games every single year and if you look at Dirks prime when he had Josh Howard as his best teammate his supporting cast wasn't even that good yet he was getting number one seeds and everything. Yet KG can't even make the playoffs? KG is a shaft rider. He needs to ride someones shaft which is why he was successful in Boston when Pierce would take over games. Good complimentary star, but not going to lead your team to a title himself.[/QUOTE]
And in what season was Josh Howard his best teammate? 2006-2007, the year they had the best record in the league then got beat in the first round?
How about Garnett's best teammates those three years? In 2004-2005 it was Wally Szczerbiak, 35 year old Sam Cassell who missed 23 games, 34 year old Sprewell, Troy Hudson, and Eddie Griffin. It got even worse the next season when he had Szczerbiak, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Marcus Banks, and Troy Hudson. And his last year in Minnesota he had Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Mike James, Randy Foye, Craig Smith, Trenton Hassell. And weren't they starting freaking Michael Olowakandi at center some of those years? It was KG and a bunch of 7th-12th men.
I'm not saying KG is the clear cut choice, but his supporting casts those three years were awful. Szczerbiak was probably, at worst, as good as Howard, but Szczerbiak was his second best teammate two years, and Howard was kinda sorta Dirk's best one year.
Before Dirk's 2011 playoff run, I would've taken KG to build a team around, no questions asked. Now, though, I'd lean towards Dirk, but it's very close. KG's defense sh*ts all over Dirk's, in their prime, now, whenever. Dirk is obviously the superior offensive player but, strictly speaking about their primes, I personally think the gap between their defense is larger than the gap between their offense.
Is it a coincidence that the only year KG had a good supporting cast with the Wolves, they went to the WCF?
[QUOTE=noosaman]dirk made the playoffs with this team
dampier
antoine wright
terry
kidd
so something tells me he could have made it with KGs squads.[/QUOTE]
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You're the biggest Dirk homer on ISH and do things to knockdown comparable players like Kevin Durant by saying he's just a taller Monta Ellis and would be better suited as a 2nd or 3rd option.