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Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
[url]http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-mark-cuban-lakers-kobe-bryant-amnesty-20130222,0,1390886.story?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=53297[/url]
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
I'm glad you've finally found someone just as stupid to agree with what you (or your alter ego Nash) have been saying for a while now, and the fruit of that marriage is this retarded thread. Enjoy! :applause:
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
Lakers as a basketball team will benefit from it but as an organization you can't possibly think of a worse move.
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Yup, and Cube's can use all the cap space he has loaded up for the offseason to claim Kobe.
C'mon, Kobe 30 mil doesn't put the lakers under the cap. Now if you lose Dwight for nothing, thats 50 mil gone on a 100 mil total salary, which I think is still over the salary cap although they would be under the tax
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
Yeah, tell ownership to amnesty Kobe the week Jerry Buss dies and Kobe talks about being a Laker for life
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
Can they amnesty him and then resign him? Idk the rules, but didn't OKC do that with Perkins (or were going to)? If that's possible within the rules then i say do it. 30 mill could go far
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lmao thats not what he said. i listened to the show this morning...
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I've said for the last couple years that the Lakers won't be able to rebuild a contender until Kobe's contract comes off the books. It's not that Kobe isn't a great player, it's just that he isn't worth 40-50% of a teams cap space anymore.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
"If you look at their payroll ... you've got to ask that question, 'Should they amnesty Kobe?'" Cuban said on ESPN's "Ben and Skin Show" in Dallas. "I'm just saying that hypothetically," Cuban said. "When I say amnesty Kobe, I don't think they'd do it, but they've got some choices to make. Now, they're in a big market, but they're still limited."
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Don't think they haven't thought about it. Why do you think they've left their amnesty just laying around? It's not like they haven't had any bad contracts. It's like a last resort.
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Cuban wants to Bring in Kobe for 10 Million a season lol.
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[QUOTE=Crown&Coke]Yup, and Cube's can use all the cap space he has loaded up for the offseason to claim Kobe.
[B]C'mon, Kobe 30 mil doesn't put the lakers under the cap.[/B] Now if you lose Dwight for nothing, thats 50 mil gone on a 100 mil total salary, which I think is still over the salary cap although they would be under the tax[/QUOTE]
How much is Laker's total Salary right now?
Max is suppose to be $58 Million? Kobe's salary is $31 million. Hes taking over 50%.
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They pay 100 millions in salaries this season. They will pay 78 mill next season if they dont resign anyone.
If you Google salaries/la_lakers.htm you will find it. Im not allowed to post a direct link
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[QUOTE]Even Cuban admits that he wouldn't do the same with Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki.
"I've made that commitment to him over the years, and he's returned that commitment," Cuban said.[/QUOTE]
so basically he's trolling
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its a good thing lakers mgmt doesnt give a fvck what Cuban thinks.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
A lot of ya'll should read the article first, then respond...:facepalm
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[QUOTE=ZMonkey11]A lot of ya'll should read the article first, then respond...:facepalm[/QUOTE]
This.
That's why i posted the quotes in hopes of eliminating dumb responses.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
[QUOTE=ZMonkey11]A lot of ya'll should read the article first, then respond...:facepalm[/QUOTE]
this guy got it right. He's not saying they should do it, he's saying its an option.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
[QUOTE=ZMonkey11]A lot of ya'll should read the article first, then respond...:facepalm[/QUOTE]
No. This is ISH. We read the thread title, post a reply and check the thread every minute hoping someone quoted us in a positive way. That makes us feel good and validated.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
To be fair, the title is pretty much the same content as the article. Except, the title is a bit more blunt than what Cuban actually said, hypothetical or not.
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[QUOTE=b0bab0i]How much is Laker's total Salary right now?
Max is suppose to be $58 Million? Kobe's salary is $31 million. Hes taking over 50%.[/QUOTE]
Kobe: $27,849,149
D12: $19,536,360
Gasoft: $19,000,000
Lakers are already 9+ million over the cap with just 3 players.
League salary cap is 58 million. When the new luxury tax kicks in, every dollar above 70 million will be tripled. If the Lakers kept their current 100 million payroll, they'd be on the hook for 58 + 24 + 90 = 172 million dollars.
Unless all 3 guys take pay cuts, Lakers won't be able to improve in the offseason because D12 and Gasol's trade values are at all-time lows.
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[QUOTE=greymatter]Kobe: $27,849,149
D12: $19,536,360
Gasoft: $19,000,000
Lakers are already 9+ million over the cap with just 3 players.
League salary cap is 58 million. When the new luxury tax kicks in, every dollar above 70 million will be tripled. If the Lakers kept their current 100 million payroll, they'd be on the hook for 58 + 24 + 90 = 172 million dollars.
Unless all 3 guys take pay cuts, Lakers won't be able to improve in the offseason because D12 and Gasol's trade values are at all-time lows.[/QUOTE]
all true, and thats a hell of a luxury tax, even for LA. but by the trade deadline, gasols value should be pretty high again, considering he becomes a $20 million expirerer.
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It's not the worst idea ever but they wont' do it. What might happen is Lakers giving away Pau Gasol "for free" to an under the cap team. I think that is realistic.
You guys have to realize that the luxury tax penalties starting next season are BEYOND ridiculous. It's absolutely insane. Even Knicks and Lakers are going to try to avoid them.
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I love to see Randy Orton RKO this clown again.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
Mark Cuban is probably the last guy I'm calling looking for GM advice.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
Depending how this season pans out, I'd say at least think about it.
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[QUOTE=Derka]Mark Cuban is probably the last guy I'm calling looking for GM advice.[/QUOTE]
That's probably a good thing since he's not the GM.
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[QUOTE=bdreason][B]I've said for the last couple years that the Lakers won't be able to rebuild a contender until Kobe's contract comes off the books. It's not that Kobe isn't a great player, it's just that he isn't worth 40-50% of a teams cap space anymore.[/B][/QUOTE]
What's your point? Amnestying Kobe Bryant would do absolutely nothing for the rebuilding process.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]What's your point? Amnestying Kobe Bryant would do absolutely nothing for the rebuilding process.[/QUOTE]
Well, from a black and white stand point, yes. Kobe Bryant not being on the Lakers team does not help them on the court.
But, if a team is paying an extra 100 million in luxury tax alone, at some point, even the richest owners draw a line.
In the end, the NBA is a business and money is something that NBA owners care about.
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[QUOTE=shortsoptional]
In the end, the NBA is a business and money is something that NBA owners care about.[/QUOTE]
Kobe also generates a shit storm of money for LA. That's something im sure is taken into consideration when looking at the $74 million luxury tax. And when i say shit storm, im talking el nino size.
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OP lacks comprehension skills.
And amnestying Kobe would probably be the dumbest thing ever. Lakers will fade into irrelevancy when Kobe is gone.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
[QUOTE=shortsoptional]Well, from a black and white stand point, yes. Kobe Bryant not being on the Lakers team does not help them on the court.
But, if a team is paying an extra 100 million in luxury tax alone, at some point, even the richest owners draw a line.
In the end, the NBA is a business and money is something that NBA owners care about.[/QUOTE]
i asked what amnestying Kobe would do for the rebuilding process. no way in hell lakers amnesty kobe just to save some money so you can just keep that thought to yourself.
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[QUOTE=Levity]Kobe also generates a shit storm of money for LA. That's something im sure is taken into consideration when looking at the $74 million luxury tax. And when i say shit storm, im talking el nino size.[/QUOTE]
Well he most certainly does. And again, even Cuban states in this article that it's a hypothetical and that he doesn't think LA would do this, so I don't want to get in to whether or not Kobe would ever be amnestied by LA because we all know he wouldn't. But LA would still bring in more money than most because the Laker brand is stronger than Kobe. It was strong before he got there, and it will be strong after he leaves. Losing 100+ million a year for any franchise however will make you consider a lot of things that might sound crazy.
So again, Kobe is going nowhere. We all know this. Cuban's overall point was that even teams like LA, NY ect (big markets) will have to [B][I]consider[/I][/B] doing unthinkable things in order to get under or lower the luxury tax because of how severe its penalties are.
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]i asked what amnestying Kobe would do for the rebuilding process. no way in hell lakers amnesty kobe just to save some money.[/QUOTE]
It would allow the owner to spend more money. Amnestying Kobe would give them more financial flexibility to sign free agents and get under the salary cap or trade for other pieces that would still be less than Kobe. Trade away Gasol, amnesty Kobe and resign Howard and then build around him.
Again, no one thinks that the Lakers are better off without Kobe. This is just more of an example of what teams like LA or other big markets have to ponder because of how severe the luxury tax is. Before, teams like LA and NY (and owners like Cuban) could maneuver around to get players on to the teams via trades while still being over the cap and didn't mind paying the luxury tax. Now, the penalties are so harsh that being under the cap is much easier. It's why teams like the Hawks didn't take on more salary for a Josh Smith trade. They would rather let him walk and use the cap space to sign FA's.
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Using the amnesty on Kobe does nothing for the Lakers to give them financial flexibility. Even with Kobe's 30 mill off the books they are over the tax line next summer. All it does is save some tax money which is easily covered by Kobe being a Laker.
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[QUOTE=daily]Using the amnesty on Kobe does nothing for the Lakers to give them financial flexibility. Even with Kobe's 30 mill off the books they are over the tax line next summer. All it does is save some tax money which is easily covered by Kobe being a Laker.[/QUOTE]
Well no. Kobe alone wouldn't do it. But you trade away Pau to a team with space (plenty of teams will take Pau for free), amnesty Kobe and resign Howard (20mil a year?)...you're looking at 48-50 mil. These are rough numbers, but what is the line next year?...56 mil or something?..
So you have a core of Nash, Dwight, Metta, Jordan Hill, Steve Blake, Chris Duhon, and room to sign a FAs...
That's just an example of how they could do something as far as rebuilding around Dwight and being under the cap.
I think that's a horrible idea. I think you pay Kobe whatever he wants and agree that he brings in tons of money. Just an example of how amnestying Kobe would allow them to get under the cap.
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Re: Mark Cuban suggests that Lakers consider using amnesty on Kobe Bryant
[QUOTE=shortsoptional]That's probably a good thing since he's not the GM.[/QUOTE]
And yet amnestying would be something a GM would do. Hence, GM advice is what I referred to it as.
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He should amnesty Dirk, and release his freedom!