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I lost all my respect for Derrick Rose but started to respect other Bulls players even more.
Bulls (not counting Rose) have so much heart.
In case the Knicks are eliminated I'll root for Warriors and the Bulls to win it all.
I'l definitely root for the Bulls against whoever they play not named the Knicks.
If you love basketball you love the Chicago Bulls. Team play,heart and energy. That's what it's all about.
As much as Derrick Rose is annoying everyone, Bulls fans will be licking the ground he walks on if he comes back and plays great next year. 90% of fan bases would.
shut up and stop wasting your energy on shiet you can't control. we're up 1, and our team is fukking depleted. save your qualms about derrick and be happy that we're trolling the shiet out of the heat and their hollow fans.
leggo bulls!
OP is a phagg0t but he's right.
No REAL Bulls fan would lose disrespect for Rose. Only IDIOTS could say they lost respect for someone making a huge life decision.
We knew there would be a chance he couldn't play all year yet you probably kept falling for the hype instead of just believing in your team.
Whatever though you'll be back to kissing the ground he walks on next season like Trentkbicks said. Go back to rocking that stupid Detroit Pistons player avatar.
Fck you
You've officially been made an outcast. Bulls don't want you. You can't diss our franchise player. You can't say you'd trade him. You'll be eating those words when dude comes back.
Fck off. Real bulls fans ain't fretting. We're watching the rest of the bulls hold down the fort while captain d rose fixes himself.
You cannot be a legitimate bulls fan with that OP. you're done. Give me your badge and gun.
This might be the most embarrassing shameful post ive ever read given the context and circumstances.
Fck off our team mang, get the fck off our team. U a fair weather nukka. A fat ass embarrassing nukka that don't represent anyone but your fat ass self.
[QUOTE=Kaspah]Fck you
You've officially been made an outcast. Bulls don't want you. You can't diss our franchise player. You can't say you'd trade him. You'll be eating those words when dude comes back.
Fck off. Real bulls fans ain't fretting. We're watching the rest of the bulls hold down the fort while captain d rose fixes himself.
You cannot be a legitimate bulls fan with that OP. you're done. Give me your badge and gun.[/QUOTE]
Okay and who appoint your weak self as Bulls Fan Management? You don't represent shit you a "A fat ass embarrassing nukka that don't represent anyone but your fat ass self", trying to act like you somebody deciding whos a fan and who isn't, you little bytch.
I'm a fan of the Bulls but i'm not a fan of cowards like Derrick Rose. Where the FK were you when our frontcourt consisted of fking Tyrus Thomas and washed up Ben Wallace and the leader of our team and STILL IS, was Kirk Hinirch?
Where was you bytch ass *****? Probably watching Blues Clues on Cartoon Network sipping on your sipping cup and munching on your lunchables, biytch.
So f*ck you, and your disgusting ass mother for giving life to such a useless piece of shyt that contributes nothing to the world.
You one of the ****** that Derrick Rose represents, and gives Chicago a bad name, Soft ass cowards like you and Derrick Rose.
Don't you ever respond to one of my posts again you pussi fk boi.
And replace that Bulls avatar for a Derrick Rose one, coward. I bet if he left our team like LeBron did you would follow his ass to wherever he goes.
[QUOTE=Trentknicks]As much as Derrick Rose is annoying everyone, Bulls fans will be licking the ground he walks on if he comes back and plays great next year. 90% of fan bases would.[/QUOTE]
Yup. It's sad the way so many have turned on him. Nate Robinson has a few good games and a few fans want him rather than Derrick Rose? Idiotic.
[QUOTE=insomniac]Yup. It's sad the way so many have turned on him. Nate Robinson has a few good games and a few fans want him rather than Derrick Rose? Idiotic.[/QUOTE]
Robinson has heart, Rose doesn't.
If it weren't for Robinson we wouldn't be in the position we are in right now, or we would we?
Don't be stupid and think before you post, Nate Robinson has STEPPED UP when Derrick Rose hasn't. And if the Bulls beat the Heat with NATE ROBINSON that will back up my opinion that I prefer him over Rose any day.
I'm a real fan on my team and if Rose were to up and leave the Organization while all these other "fans" would feel cheated I would be fine with it and happy with Nate & Captain Kirk.
Just like if would if I were a Cleaveland fan and LeBron left us.
[QUOTE=Trentknicks]As much as Derrick Rose is annoying everyone, Bulls fans will be licking the ground he walks on if he comes back and plays great next year. 90% of fan bases would.[/QUOTE]
Exactly this.
Rose isn't a significant player anyway. Never was. Thibbs is this teams heart and soul.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Rose isn't a significant player anyway. Never was. Thibbs is this teams heart and soul.[/QUOTE]
This.
If Nate Robinson came in to the league out of Memphis after winning a National Championship (He would of hit the freethrows, unlike Rose) in 2008, drafted by the Bulls with the #1 pick, then he would of been the MVP too.
Chicago Bulls REAL franchise player = tommy da butcher.
[QUOTE=LosBulls]Robinson has heart, Rose doesn't.[/quote]
All fans say they want a team with heart, but what they really want is a team that wins.
[quote]If it weren't for Robinson we wouldn't be in the position we are in right now, or we would we?[/quote]
Without BOTH Rose AND Robinson, probably not. But with Rose INSTEAD OF Robinson? Probably beat the Nets in less than 7.
[quote]Don't be stupid and think before you post[/quote]
I am. I am not letting my hurt feelings of Rose not playing, and my joy of Nate Robinson stepping up his game, cloud my judgement. Once Rose returns, the choice is abundantly clear.
[quote]Nate Robinson has STEPPED UP when Derrick Rose hasn't. And if the Bulls beat the Heat with NATE ROBINSON that will back up my opinion that I prefer him over Rose any day.[/quote]
I think it's amazing that Nate has stepped up, but I take that for what is it is - he is stepping up. This level of play will not last. His career speaks for itself.
[quote]I'm a real fan on my team and if Rose were to up and leave the Organization while all these other "fans" would feel cheated I would be fine with it and happy with Nate & Captain Kirk.
Just like if would if I were a Cleaveland fan and LeBron left us.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, those real Cleveland fans were ecstatic that LeBron left and a player with heart like Baron Davis stepped up in his absence. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=LosBulls]
If Nate Robinson came in to the league out of Memphis after winning a National Championship (He would of hit the freethrows, unlike Rose) in 2008, drafted by the Bulls with the #1 pick, then he would of been the MVP too.[/QUOTE]
You've officially lost all credibility.
[IMG]http://gifs.gifbin.com/022013/reverse-1367338010_jimmy_butler__deal_with_it.gif[/IMG]
Bulls fans attacking each other too, whats going on with this world we live in?
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=insomniac]All fans say they want a team with heart, but what they really want is a team that wins.
Without BOTH Rose AND Robinson, probably not. But with Rose INSTEAD OF Robinson? Probably beat the Nets in less than 7.
I am. I am not letting my hurt feelings of Rose not playing, and my joy of Nate Robinson stepping up his game, cloud my judgement. Once Rose returns, the choice is abundantly clear.
I think it's amazing that Nate has stepped up, but I take that for what is it is - he is stepping up. This level of play will not last. His career speaks for itself.
Yeah, those real Cleveland fans were ecstatic that LeBron left and a player with heart like Baron Davis stepped up in his absence. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Nope but they drafted a guy named Kyrie soon after and I would of been happy.
OP is my hero of the day for having that much guts.
but he also may be right. rose better come out with a pretty sensational reason for why he's letting his team down like this. otherwise he comes off as equally-talented dipshit such as iverson, francis, marbury, etc.
that's NOT a good look for anyone unless they're a total egomaniac playing a team game. then it's absolutely hilarious.
I mean, Chicago has to keep Nate around for next season, right?
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Bulls fans attacking each other too, whats going on with this world we live in?
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
It's embarassing. Damn kids letting their emotions cloud their better judgment.
And it's "would've", "would have", or even "woulda", but not "would of".
[QUOTE=gigantes]OP is my hero of the day for having that much guts.
but he also may be right. rose better come out with a pretty sensational reason for why he's letting his team down like this. otherwise he comes off as equally-talented dipshit such as iverson, francis, marbury, etc.
that's NOT a good look for anyone unless they're a total egomaniac playing a team game. then it's absolutely hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Don't EVER compare Derrick Rose to a real man's man like Allen Iverson. Rose doesn't have an ounce of the heart and iron will that Iverson had.
[QUOTE=insomniac]It's embarassing. Damn kids letting their emotions cloud their better judgment.
And it's "would've", "would have", or even "woulda", but not "would of".[/QUOTE]
Hop off Rose's *******, you've been here seen 2006, you should know better.
Rose hasn't won us a championship, so why are we praising him again?
What if he comes back and hes not as good as you think he will be, what then? Will I still be letting my "emotions cloud my better judgment"?
The way i'm looking at it, it's you who needs to calm his emotions. You have a man-crush on Derrick Rose and fail to realize our team is playing so good without him yet hes taking up a massive chunk of our salary space while sitting out all of this year and a lot of the one before.
[QUOTE=LosBulls]Hop off Rose's *******, you've been here seen 2006, you should know better.[/quote]
It's a little funny the way you throw that out there, considering how you're all over Nate, in this very thread. I am not anyone's *****. What I am is rational. I am willing to give a former MVP the benefit of the doubt, and am not willing to send him packing just because some journeyman that barely averages double digits for his career has stepped it up for few games. Am I glad he has stepped it up? Absolutely. But, don't be fooled.
[quote]Rose hasn't won us a championship, so why are we praising him again?[/quote]
Neither have Noah or Nate, but that doesn't keep you from acting like they've been the best players on this team, all along.
[quote]What if he comes back and hes not as good as you think he will be, what then? Will I still be letting my "emotions cloud my better judgment"?[/quote]
If facts are established that he is no longer the player that used to be, and he can't be a serviceable backup to either Teague, Robinson, or Hinrich, then I'd have no problem letting him walk if he is still making the same amount of money he is now. But let's face it, using all of these "what if" scenarios in an effort to make your point is not helping.
[quote]The way i'm looking at it, it's you who needs to calm his emotions.[/quote]
You're projecting.
[quote]You have a man-crush on Derrick Rose and fail to realize our team is playing so good without him[/QUOTE]
I am happy the team is playing well without him. It makes me wonder how well the team would be playing WITH him. As I said, Nate is stepping up, and that's great, but let's see him sustain that level of play before we are willing to hand the team over to him rather than back to a former MVP.
I myself have been dissapointed, annoyed,and called into question Rose's heart plenty of times this year. But to completely shi*at on him like you just did?
You mentioned the years with Hinrich and Wallace as our centerpieces. Then I'm assuming you also remember the annual dissapointment we had each and every year? The turmoils, ups, but mostly downs of drafting Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Lamarcus Aldridge (traded for Tyrus Thomas), of investing too much money into Ben Wallace, of trying to make Deng our franchise player but failing in that front.. years and years of regular season failures or first round after first round exits. Then... through SHEER luck and draw, we receive not only a potential superstar.. but one of our very own native born.
The last three years have been some of the most enjoyable I have had as a life-long Bulls fan. Much of that IS and ALWAYS WILL BE directly correlated to Derrick Rose. He isn't just our franchise player. He [B]IS CHICAGO[/B]. To have someone so humble, soft-spoken, yet so hard-working.. something that [B]EPITOMIZES[/B] the people of Chicago, play for us. Someone so different for the typical ego-tistical super star that originated from the south side? You can't make this shiat up. He was destined to be a Bull. To go through all those years of turmoil and then to have this native-born carry us to the playoffs each year since he's joined us. To have him develop, bond with his team-mates, converse and learn from Thibodeau, CARRY US to first seeds the last two years... AND YOUR GOING TO COMPLETELY SHIAT ON HIM LIKE YOU JUST DID? To not care that he gets traded? To not think he deserves that MVP? You do realize you just agreed with NumberSix that Rose isn't a significant player? As a Bulls fan, do you REALIZE THE CRAP COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH?
I'm sorry you feel that way man, [B]but I'm not sorry for saying this. [/B]Your original post really puts into question you true loyalties to the city of Chicago. I'm not just saying the Chicago Bulls as a team, but the city of Chicago itself.
Dissapointed... annoyed... complaining about him to all your other sports city friends? That's exactly how I have felt and been doing along with all of my other Bulls friends, many of them still living in the northern suburbs of Stevenson, Roscoe village, Bridgeport, Edison Park etc... But to see someone like you claim to be a Bulls fan then completely shiat on the epitome of the city itself over a long-term decision?
I agree with many of the posters here. Say he comes back and completely dominates again, and you jump right back on the wagon, don't expect me to forget.
:no:
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Don't EVER compare Derrick Rose to a real man's man like Allen Iverson. Rose doesn't have an ounce of the heart and iron will that Iverson had.[/QUOTE]
piss off. i'm from philly and spent many years as a sixers fan. i saw it all as 1st-hand as a local fan can.
iverson has little "heart and iron will" but vast mountain ranges of ego, stubbornness and self-righteousness. he did it all mainly for himself, and every little action on and off the court gave it away year after year.
dude is a disgrace of a human being IMO, and i certainly hope rose doesn't wind up like him.
I have a question for Bulls fans who are from Chicago. What's it like there the day after-- sports radio/TV and just on the street in general?
I can't imagine what the atmosphere at the U.C. is going to be like. It's one of the toughest buildings to play in as an opponent under ordinary circumstances, let alone when it's the Heat, in the playoffs, and the Bulls are guaranteed to enter Game 3 having stolen HCA, no matter what happens in Game 2.
I don't see the Heat returning to Miami in any better position than a 2-2 tie. I fear that it may be... worse than that.
[QUOTE=gigantes]piss off. [B] i'm from philly[/B] and spent many years as a sixers fan. i saw it all as 1st-hand as a local fan can.
iverson has little "heart and iron will" but vast mountain ranges of ego, stubbornness and self-righteousness. he did it all mainly for himself, and every little action on and off the court gave it away year after year.
dude is a disgrace of a human being IMO, and i certainly hope rose doesn't wind up like him.[/QUOTE]
That explains it.
[QUOTE=jrong]I have a question for Bulls fans who are from Chicago. What's it like there the day after-- sports radio/TV and just on the street in general?
I can't imagine what the atmosphere at the U.C. is going to be like. It's one of the toughest buildings to play in as an opponent under ordinary circumstances, let alone when it's the Heat, in the playoffs, and the Bulls are guaranteed to enter Game 3 having stolen HCA, no matter what happens in Game 2.
I don't see the Heat returning to Miami in any better position than a 2-2 tie. I fear that it may be... worse than that.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to the United Center since 2008, so I can't say how it is right now. But I'm sure it's like every big city. You can't walk more than one building to the next on busy streets without entering into a convo with someone about the latest game, etc. I live near L.A now though and have been to plenty of SCenter games. One thing I can say is it seems as though more people enter games late and leave early in SC than UC. That's just my opinion, and might be due to the reflective nature of how busy and work-a-holic L.A is compared to Chicago.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]That explains it.[/QUOTE]
the only thing that explains is the vantage point.
plenty of ppl from philly disagree w/ me, so your statement is lazy... like iverson.
[QUOTE=LosBulls]Not that i believe many if any people will care but I just want to put this out there since i've been one of the more quiet Bulls fans on this situation.
I [B]used[/B] to be a huge Derrick Rose fan, I [B]thought[/B] he was one of the guys with the most heart and dedication, I [B]thought[/B] he would lead us to a Championship, and now I just don't.
Not a knock on him, there is still a chance he comes back better than ever, but I lost respect for that man. When you have a whole city on your back that wants to see you play basketball you take that opportunity, there are people who would kill to be in that position to be the face of a whole city, and now its bigger than that... A whole nation is rooting for your team to beat the Heat and you aren't man enough to suit up and go out there and give at least 15 minutes?
You aren't man enough to say "F*ck what my brother says, F*ck what Adidas says, I'm going out there because if it were Nate Robinson or Joakim Noah in my position with my talent they would've been back months ago"
I wouldn't care if Derrick Rose gets traded to be honest. Even though there is a very low chance of it, but it would be nice to get rid of him for letting us down.
People used to call Joakim Noah a bust before Rose got here and now Joakim is probably the best center in the NBA and has replaced Rose as the face of the franchise.
Shit, Nate Robinson was a Midget journeyman most known for winning boring ass dunk contests before Rose got injured, and now even he is taking Rose's shine.
Yet Rose won't do shit about it.
Thibs should put his ass at the SG spot next year and let Nate handle PG, because Rose doesn't deserve to run this team.
Why does god give talent to bums with no heart like Derrick Rose?
Rose doesn't deserve that MVP award. Rose will never win a Championship as the MAN because he doesn't have it in him, and his college career where he played in Memphis and choked away a championship proves it.
Get the fk off my team Derrick Rose. And I hope you somehow see this, so you can let it sink in that you had all the potential in the world yet you put the team that was once lead by Michael Jordan to shame.
Jordan would of hit those free throws. Jordan would of came back and won us a Championship this year.
And practically have more talent than Jordan did, yet you lack something Jordan didn't, and thats heart.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdsL4kvp_I[/url]
Somebody on their period, this should help:
[img]http://img4.allyou.com/i/2010/05/stayfree-ultathin-m.jpg[/img]
You're too emotional to be a grown ass man..
I wanted him to stay out the entire season. Now if hes not suited up for training camp, then I feel hes gonna have a problem. I also hope hes taken this time to improve his jump shot.
Shumpert had the same injury the same day. Nuff said.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Shumpert had the same injury the same day. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]
Its unbelievable how big of a moron you are.
You're a pretentious little b*tch that just sits behind his computer all day on ISH and nitoicks what arguments he would like to start
For gods sake you're a waste of a poster. You claim your a Lakers fan yet root for the Heat and James vigorously. Shut up and play dead because people are tired of your shtick.
[QUOTE=ballinhun8]Its unbelievable how big of a moron you are.
You're a pretentious little b*tch that just sits behind his computer all day on ISH and nitoicks what arguments he would like to start
For gods sake you're a waste of a poster. You claim your a Lakers fan yet root for the Heat and James vigorously. Shut up and play dead because people are tired of your shtick.[/QUOTE]
But am I wrong?
If you had to decide between coming back and appeasing fans or take care of your moneymaker which one would you choose?
[QUOTE=Kellogs4toniee]I myself have been dissapointed, annoyed,and called into question Rose's heart plenty of times this year. But to completely shi*at on him like you just did?
You mentioned the years with Hinrich and Wallace as our centerpieces. Then I'm assuming you also remember the annual dissapointment we had each and every year? The turmoils, ups, but mostly downs of drafting Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Lamarcus Aldridge (traded for Tyrus Thomas), of investing too much money into Ben Wallace, of trying to make Deng our franchise player but failing in that front.. years and years of regular season failures or first round after first round exits. Then... through SHEER luck and draw, we receive not only a potential superstar.. but one of our very own native born.
The last three years have been some of the most enjoyable I have had as a life-long Bulls fan. Much of that IS and ALWAYS WILL BE directly correlated to Derrick Rose. He isn't just our franchise player. He [B]IS CHICAGO[/B]. To have someone so humble, soft-spoken, yet so hard-working.. something that [B]EPITOMIZES[/B] the people of Chicago, play for us. Someone so different for the typical ego-tistical super star that originated from the south side? You can't make this shiat up. He was destined to be a Bull. To go through all those years of turmoil and then to have this native-born carry us to the playoffs each year since he's joined us. To have him develop, bond with his team-mates, converse and learn from Thibodeau, CARRY US to first seeds the last two years... AND YOUR GOING TO COMPLETELY SHIAT ON HIM LIKE YOU JUST DID? To not care that he gets traded? To not think he deserves that MVP? You do realize you just agreed with NumberSix that Rose isn't a significant player? As a Bulls fan, do you REALIZE THE CRAP COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH?
I'm sorry you feel that way man, [B]but I'm not sorry for saying this. [/B]Your original post really puts into question you true loyalties to the city of Chicago. I'm not just saying the Chicago Bulls as a team, but the city of Chicago itself.
Dissapointed... annoyed... complaining about him to all your other sports city friends? That's exactly how I have felt and been doing along with all of my other Bulls friends, many of them still living in the northern suburbs of Stevenson, Roscoe village, Bridgeport, Edison Park etc... But to see someone like you claim to be a Bulls fan then completely shiat on the epitome of the city itself over a long-term decision?
I agree with many of the posters here. Say he comes back and completely dominates again, and you jump right back on the wagon, don't expect me to forget.
:no:[/QUOTE]
Derrick Rose is [B]NOT[/B] Chicago. He is a coward. And I do remember those years you mentioned above and to be honest, I enjoyed those years. I used to play with Kirk Hienrich in NBA Street V3 on the original xbox and be a beast. I remember people used to call Ben Gordon Air Gordon, I remember that epic series we had against Boston in Derrick Rose's Rookie season where true heart was shown and I was happy to be a Bulls fan even though we got bounced in the first round.
I still am happy and proud to be a Bulls fan, I love my team, I'm a fan of Joakim,Nate,Butler,Boozer,Deng,Taj, all these guys are perfect yet the guy that i'm supposed to like the most and the one who supposed to be the leader is acting like a coward.
And thats what pisses me off. I was infuriated when Joakim pulled out that win for us on one leg, and then a few games later Nate puking at half time infuriated even more, and then yesterday Nate getting stitches and still coming back and putting in work infuriated me EVEN MORE.
And you look back at my previous posts, I've always been optimistic about Rose saying "He'll come back in the last game of the season".. then that comes and hes not playing.
"He'll come back 1st game of round 1" Nope.
"He'll come back now for sure since Kirk is injured" Nope.
"He'll come back now, Deng is out with the FLU and Nate is puking all over the place" Nope.
"He'll come back for game 7, I know he won't let us down" Nope.
"He'll come back against the Heat, we really need him" Nope.
I can't begin to explain how much I love my team "The Bulls" for pulling out these wins no matter what to cover up for Derrick Rose's cowardliness, but eventually there will be a time when we will need Rose and he'll be sitting on the bench saying some bullshyt like "Only god knows".
So f*ck Rose.
Don't question me as a fan of the Bulls, but i'm not a fan of Rose.
[QUOTE=LosBulls]Derrick Rose is [B]NOT[/B] Chicago. He is a coward. And I do remember those years you mentioned above and to be honest, I enjoyed those years. I used to play with Kirk Hienrich in NBA Street V3 on the original xbox and be a beast. I remember people used to call Ben Gordon Air Gordon, I remember that epic series we had against Boston in Derrick Rose's Rookie season where true heart was shown and I was happy to be a Bulls fan even though we got bounced in the first round.
I still am happy and proud to be a Bulls fan, I love my team, I'm a fan of Joakim,Nate,Butler,Boozer,Deng,Taj, all these guys are perfect yet the guy that i'm supposed to like the most and the one who supposed to be the leader is acting like a coward.
And thats what pisses me off. I was infuriated when Joakim pulled out that win for us on one leg, and then a few games later Nate puking at half time infuriated even more, and then yesterday Nate getting stitches and still coming back and putting in work infuriated me EVEN MORE.
And you look back at my previous posts, I've always been optimistic about Rose saying "He'll come back in the last game of the season".. then that comes and hes not playing.
"He'll come back 1st game of round 1" Nope.
"He'll come back now for sure since Kirk is injured" Nope.
"He'll come back now, Deng is out with the FLU and Nate is puking all over the place" Nope.
"He'll come back for game 7, I know he won't let us down" Nope.
"He'll come back against the Heat, we really need him" Nope.
I can't begin to explain how much I love my team "The Bulls" for pulling out these wins no matter what to cover up for Derrick Rose's cowardliness, but eventually there will be a time when we will need Rose and he'll be sitting on the bench saying some bullshyt like "Only god knows".
So f*ck Rose.
[B][COLOR="Red"]Don't question me as a fan of the Bulls[/COLOR][/B], but i'm not a fan of Rose.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I'm doing, I want to make that perfectly clear. Derrick Rose is not Chicago? Four years of working his ass off, carrying the team, all the charity work he does for the community, etc. thrown out because you don't like his decision that ultimately comes down to protecting his career in a league where too many stars to count have lost multiple years if not entire careers for coming back when not 100% ready physically and emotionally?
It's one thing to be dissapointed in him and annoyed, like I am. But to completely negate everything he's done so far and ignore the fact that he epitomizes the city?
GTFO you poser. I'm saving this thread for next year when he comes back to MVP form and you go back jocking his strap or pretending like u never went sour.