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nathanjizzle 04-21-2015 01:33 PM

Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
is everyone going to act like the bias isnt obvious already? these players deserved their awards, but is crucified by basketball simps because of their size and position.

nash didnt deserve it
rose didnt deserve it
curry didnt deserve it

ShawkFactory 04-21-2015 01:38 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
I actually think Rose deserved it. People look at what he's done since and use it to confirm that him getting the award was a joke. It wasn't.

I think Dirk Should have gotten Nash's second MVP.

Fudge 04-21-2015 01:40 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
nash didnt deserve it
rose didnt deserve it
curry didnt deserve it

Because they didn't, Nathan.

24-Inch_Chrome 04-21-2015 01:45 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
I've defended Nash too many times to get into it again in depth.

TL;DR: GOAT level offensive impact, GOAT shooter, played in 2006 without Stoudemire and still led them to 54 wins.

I'm not huge on Rose's MVP, I'd have preferred Dwight/LeBron, but the Bulls posted 62 (?) wins and from a value standpoint it's completely understandable why he won.

Curry will deserve his if he wins.

Dresta 04-21-2015 01:51 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Curry deserves it; Rose didn't.

VengefulAngel 04-21-2015 01:52 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
The problem is that were comparing them to other players who are flat out better than these PGs.

hawksdogsbraves 04-21-2015 02:13 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
I think it's a case of hindsight being 20/20; now that you can look back and see that neither Rose nor Nash even made the finals, it's easy to say they 'didn't deserve it'.

If Curry and the Warriors go on to win a championship, you'll never hear another peep about him not deserving the MVP.

Beyond that, Rose gets hit extra hard because he's not been close to an MVP caliber player since he won, (due to injuries).

Nash gets hit extra hard because he probably didn't deserve either award in reality.

He Strong 04-21-2015 02:18 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
is everyone going to act like the bias isnt obvious already? these players deserved their awards, but is crucified by basketball simps because of their size and position.

nash didnt deserve it
rose didnt deserve it
curry didnt deserve it


I think Curry deserves it. Rose borderline deserved it. I don't think Nash deserved it.

Eric Cartman 04-21-2015 02:20 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawksdogsbraves
Nash gets hit extra hard because he probably didn't deserve either award in reality.


Who deserved it over Nash?

T_L_P 04-21-2015 02:24 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
05 Nash and current Curry are both deserved.

06 belongs to Dirk. 11 for Rose? :oldlol:

24-Inch_Chrome 04-21-2015 02:24 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Who deserved it over Nash?


It's usually a Shaq/Dirk argument depending on the year.

Hey Yo 04-21-2015 02:25 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
is everyone going to act like the bias isnt obvious already? these players deserved their awards, but is crucified by basketball simps because of their size and position.

nash didnt deserve it
rose didnt deserve it
curry didnt deserve it

edit....misread post

Eric Cartman 04-21-2015 02:27 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
It's usually a Shaq/Dirk argument depending on the year.


Kobe has an argument in 06, Dirk has one in 05.

Shaq has no argument over Nash in either year.

Big Cheese 04-21-2015 02:28 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
people believed that cp3 should of won it in 08 :confusedshrug:

ArbitraryWater 04-21-2015 02:30 PM

Re: Isnt the discrimination against MVP point guards apparent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T_L_P
05 Nash and current Curry are both deserved.

06 belongs to Dirk. 11 for Rose? :oldlol:


this exactly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Kobe has an argument in 06, Dirk has one in 05.

Shaq has no argument over Nash in either year.


oh so Kobe has an argument in 2006 but Dirk doesn't? Dirk's case in 2006 is much better than in 2005, you just don't like to see Kobe losing out.


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