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The Official "Discuss Jeremy Lin's Performance" Thread
To avoid a different thread every day saying "Lin played great" or "Lin sucked" we can have one thread which is updated every day with his stats. We'll start with last night since i'm lazy.
Minutes / Pts / Ast / Reb / TO / +/- / Shooting
Vs. MIA 34 / 9 / 6 / 1 / 2 / -16 / 3 of 8
Vs. NO 34 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 2 / -5 / 2 of 10
Vs. LA 31 / 5 / 10 / 1 / 3 / -20 / 2 of 9
Vs. Utah 33 / 13 / 3 / 6 / 3 / -5 / 5 of 15
Vs. Chi 26 / 4 / 3 / 4 / 5 / -3 / 2 of 9
Minutes / Pts / Ast / Reb / TO / Shooting
Per Game 34.2 / 10 / 6.3 / 4.4 / 2.8 / .333
DISCUSS.
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Point guards have a knack for attacking the basket causing chaos against the Heat. He was just too passive. It seems like he was just letting Harden do the playmaking which was basically isoing. Luckily the team caught fire from three.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia]Point guards have a knack for attacking the basket causing chaos against the Heat. He was just too passive. It seems like he was just letting Harden do the playmaking which was basically isoing. Luckily the team caught fire from three.[/QUOTE]
Last year Lin played like shit vs the Heat.
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[QUOTE=niko]To avoid a different thread every day saying "Lin played great" or "Lin sucked" we can have one thread which is updated every day with his stats. We'll start with last night since i'm lazy.
Minutes / Pts / Ast / Reb / TO / +/- / Shooting
Vs. MIA 34 / 9 / 6 / 1 / 2 / -16 / 3 of 8
[b]If he gets so good [/b]or so bad it's moot i will stop the thread.
DISCUSS.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Making it obvious you're a hater. So if he starts scoring a bit more, you won't bother with this thread? This is only made to mock his lack of amazing statlines?
It's not Jeremy Lin's fault that the basketball world put him on a pedestal last season, one that he couldn't really sit on.
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[QUOTE=Go Getter]Last year Lin played like shit vs the Heat.[/QUOTE]
And he could've played better. Just too damn intimidated. Just gotta attack and draw fouls on the overly aggressive Chalmers.
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[QUOTE=Scholar]:facepalm
Making it obvious you're a hater. So if he starts scoring a bit more, you won't bother with this thread? This is only made to mock his lack of amazing statlines?
It's not Jeremy Lin's fault that the basketball world put him on a pedestal last season, one that he couldn't really sit on.[/QUOTE]
If he is scoring 20/10 and is an all star what is there to discuss? I'll make a new thread, called EVERYONE WAS WRONG, LIN IS GREAT PLEASE DISCUSS>
I also said if he gets so bad im stopping to so we don't have endless bashing. Basically i mean discuss while there is shit to discuss. Do we discuss Chris Duhon's performance?
People are uber sensitive.
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The hype and contract is why people hate him. But don't forget this guy was undrafted and close to being cut.
Put it this way, if he was a 2nd round draft pick in his rookie season playing the way he is playing now, would he be hated or seen as a steal?
You can't blame him for getting paid. No one here would have done anything differently. Just seems that people want to see him fail and I just can't get behind that, especially when he seems like a decent person on and off the court.
That being said, if it weren't for that near airball at the end, I would have said the Heat game would be good for him as he played MUCH better than the first time around. I hope he shakes off that horrible ending soon and focuses on the positives.
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Great idea!
Per-game stats for the season, inclusive of last night:
Minutes / Pts / Ast / Reb / TO / Shooting
34.7 / 11.9 / 6.4 / 4.6 / 2.6 / .373
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Great idea!
Per-game stats for the season, inclusive of last night:
Minutes / Pts / Ast / Reb / TO / Shooting
34.7 / 11.9 / 6.4 / 4.6 / 2.6 / .373[/QUOTE]
What team are you a fan of? I only see you post in Jeremy Lin/Houston Rockets related threads, this is probably the most neutral/positive post I've seen you make when it comes to them.
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He had one nice little flurry yesterday but he didn't play that well overall. He didn't have much impact, the final shot wasn't the big deal (although it was funny). "Linsanity died" started trending on twitter because of that. :lol
The weird thing to me is he doesn't bring the ball up or initiate the offense that much. (On the Knicks he would do it unless he got pressured and had to give the ball up.) That's strange, no? Symptom of a balky knee?
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[QUOTE=niko]He had one nice little flurry yesterday but he didn't play that well overall. He didn't have much impact, the final shot wasn't the big deal (although it was funny). "Linsanity died" started trending on twitter because of that. :lol
The weird thing to me is he doesn't bring the ball up or initiate the offense that much. (On the Knicks he would do it unless he got pressured and had to give the ball up.) That's strange, no? Symptom of a balky knee?[/QUOTE]
His knee is fine. He's either lost his confidence or his being told to pass the ball more to Harden to ....hell...I have no idea why if that's the case.....
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Great idea!
Per-game stats for the season, inclusive of last night:
Minutes / Pts / Ast / Reb / TO / Shooting
34.7 / 11.9 / 6.4 / 4.6 / 2.6 / .373[/QUOTE]
Left out steals? As he is one of the top leading player in steals in the league
But yeah I don't get this thread. Nobody realistically expects this guy to drop amazing stats. He's just going to go along with a statline like this and it's fine. He hasn't even played 1 whole season yet, there has been worse performances by rookies. He's playing bad now due to lack of confidence, and not inserting himself into the game, but at least give it a couple more games man.
People just want to hate on him based on publicity generated by ESPN (Shepseskaf), his contract (Millwad), and ditching the Knicks (Niko). These 3 guys will shat on him no matter what (unless he starts playing like MJ :lol ) and I expect more hate posts coming from them in this thread :rolleyes:
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Jeremy Lin would make a good back-up PG in this league. He's not got the cojones for being "the man" or even a regular starter. He'll have good games as the starter but he'll have passive games like last night.
12 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 6.4 APG, 2.4 SPG in 35 MPG - Decent stat line. Great FT shooter, horrible FG %. Not a great 3 point shooter. I'm actually impressed that he's able to average that many assist given how much Harden dominates the ball. And to that point (in relation to my point about Lin being a back-up), I'd like to see them actually bring Lin off the bench and start Douglas or Cook. Douglas is basically a defensive specialist at this point (meaning that's what gets him on the court, not that he's a lock-down defender). Cook would really play limited minutes but could give the team some scoring punch early. 2nd unit would be Delfino, Morris, Lin, Smith/Aldrich, Jones.
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[QUOTE=gyu]What team are you a fan of? I only see you post in Jeremy Lin/Houston Rockets related threads, this is probably the most neutral/positive post I've seen you make when it comes to them.[/QUOTE]
What, are you a member of the Anti-Lin Police Patrol?
Newsflash: this is a message board and people can post what they want, as long as there's no direct personal attacks/profanity/offensive content.
If someone wants to post negative things about a player or team, they're free to do so. No one owes you any explanations for what and why they post.
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[QUOTE=ripthekik]Left out steals? As he is one of the top leading player in steals in the league
But yeah I don't get this thread. Nobody realistically expects this guy to drop amazing stats. He's just going to go along with a statline like this and it's fine. He hasn't even played 1 whole season yet, there has been worse performances by rookies. He's playing bad now due to lack of confidence, and not inserting himself into the game, but at least give it a couple more games man.
People just want to hate on him based on publicity generated by ESPN (Shepseskaf), his contract (Millwad), and ditching the Knicks (Niko). These 3 guys will shat on him no matter what (unless he starts playing like MJ :lol ) and I expect more hate posts coming from them in this thread :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
When Lin was a Knick i posted basically he had good potential, he didn't "suck" and i looked forward to him trying to mesh with Melo and Amare. He never seemed to want to mesh, he got hurt, he then left. Basically i argued he didn't suck, not that he was an all star. That was practically every Lin argument i had. ANd when i argued he was good, it was based on the numbers that he was actually putting up. He wasn't scoring 9 pts and getting 6 assists and looking lost. He was putting up ridiculous numbers.
Now i'm being told he is absolutely fantastic on defense (what?) and also things about his game that are not true. Basically people who saw him play 6 minutes want to tell me now that he's gone, he's become this transcendant star. Despite me literally having seen every minute he's played since last year.
:rolleyes: There are more people on this board who will argue Lin is great based on 9 pts than admit Melo is an all star when he scores 30. Based on the numbers he's putting up and the impact he is having on games, a Knick fan who said he was very good last year and not as good this year is just being honest.
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If he is black this thread would not exist.
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And if you want differences between last year and this year is last year his offense was much more efficient, he brought the ball up for the Knicks and always initiated the offense, and he had some guys (Novak, Shumpert, Chandler) who he made much more efficient by his presence.
He's less efficient this year, and having less effect on the game, and half the time he's waved off and someone else brings the ball up and starts the offense. It's what's making him take bad shots, he's winding up off the ball as a shooter. That's not ideal.
Note: I ACTUALLY WATCH HIM PLAY unlike some of you who reflexively just get pissy when he is criticized.
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[QUOTE=TheBigVeto]If he is black this thread would not exist.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen the many, many anti-Melo threads? People call him fat, lazy, a poor team player and a bad character, etc.
Guess what - Melo's black.
I think you're much more racist than the people you're accusing.
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[QUOTE=niko]
Now i'm being told he is absolutely fantastic on defense (what?) and also things about his game that are not true. Basically people who saw him play 6 minutes want to tell me now that he's gone, he's become this transcendant star. Despite me literally having seen every minute he's played since last year.
:rolleyes: There are more people on this board who will argue Lin is great based on 9 pts than admit Melo is an all star when he scores 30. Based on the numbers he's putting up and the impact he is having on games, a Knick fan who said he was very good last year and not as good this year is just being honest.[/QUOTE]
Find me a post where someone said he was a stellar all NBA defender? He's just been holding his own, and he is the 5th leader in steals per game, so he has decent hands and reaction.
Everybody here just needs to keep in perspective:
- He was not offered an athletic scholarship
- went undrafted
- averaged what, 5 minutes of play time in his rookie year with GSW
- sent to D-League multiple times his rookie year
- Cut by Rockets in preseason
- was on the NYK's bench for while and almost cut
now look at his numbers.
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[QUOTE=ripthekik]Find me a post where someone said he was a stellar all NBA defender? He's just been holding his own, and he is the 5th leader in steals per game, so he has decent hands and reaction.
Everybody here just needs to keep in perspective:
- He was not offered an athletic scholarship
- went undrafted
- averaged what, 5 minutes of play time in his rookie year with GSW
- sent to D-League multiple times his rookie year
- Cut by Rockets in preseason
- was on the NYK's bench for while and almost cut
now look at his numbers.[/QUOTE]
Dont bother trying to argue with niko/milwad/shepseskaf (the same guy) about Jeremy Lin.
They are clearly lin haters, and probably only hate on lin because they were raped by an asian pedo when they were young.
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[QUOTE=ripthekik]Find me a post where someone said he was a stellar all NBA defender? He's just been holding his own, and he is the 5th leader in steals per game, so he has decent hands and reaction.
Everybody here just needs to keep in perspective:
- He was not offered an athletic scholarship
- went undrafted
- averaged what, 5 minutes of play time in his rookie year with GSW
- sent to D-League multiple times his rookie year
- Cut by Rockets in preseason
- was on the NYK's bench for while and almost cut
now look at his numbers.[/QUOTE]
He's not a good defender. I kept getting told decent and then told he makes steals, etc. He's not decent. He's not a good defender. Don't tell me "yes but" and i won't argue it.
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[QUOTE=niko]He's not a good defender. I kept getting told [I]decent[/I] and then told he makes steals, etc. He's not decent. He's not a good defender. Don't tell me "yes but" and i won't argue it.[/QUOTE]
I think that's arguable whether he's a [I]decent[/I] defender. He has some deficiencies with overhelping and getting picked off, but he is competent when it comes to man to man d. He's surprisingly also not bad at guarding mismatches.
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No knicks fans allowed. DERP.
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[QUOTE=G-train]No knicks fans allowed. DERP.[/QUOTE] No Rocket fans either. DERP.
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[quote=niko]No Rocket fans either. DERP.[/quote]
Original response. This thread will be filled with Knickerbocker homosexuals bitching about Lin's every move.
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Whats messing lin up this season is that he is tryin to live up to that fat contract!
I think it put a lot of pressure on him.jeremy lin if you out there listen to me.
Calm down,focus,remember the ancient chinese proverb "patience is a virtue",and last but not least eat some sushi befor every game.
If he does those things he will be fine.
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[QUOTE=G-train]Original response. This thread will be filled with Knickerbocker homosexuals bitching about Lin's every move.[/QUOTE]
There are tons of people critical about Lin's game. There was when he was a Knick. Don't act like this is something new Knick fans made up.
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[QUOTE]If he is black this thread would not exist.[/QUOTE]
Very true
I remember when Mike James average 20.3ppg on 47% (44% from 3) shooting and 5.8 assists over 79 games on a crap team much like Lin and no one gave a shit. Jeremy Lin over 35 games on a crap team averages 14.6, 6assists on 44% shooting and the hype is beyond insane
Terrance Kinsey over 12 starts avg 18 and 4 assists for Memphis
Andre Miller career averages are what Lin average over his time in NYK no one gives a crap
Hell even Dan Dikau (who's white) avg 14 and 5 on a crap team no one gave a crap
There have been countless other players do what Lin has done and the media didn't give a crap.
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[QUOTE=andremiller07]Very true
I remember when Mike James average 20.3ppg on 47% (44% from 3) shooting and 5.8 assists over 79 games on a crap team much like Lin and no one gave a shit. Jeremy Lin over 35 games on a crap team averages 14.6, 6assists on 44% shooting and the hype is beyond insane
Terrance Kinsey over 12 starts avg 18 and 4 assists for Memphis
[B]Andre Miller career averages are what Lin average over his time in NYK no one gives a crap[/B]
Hell even Dan Dikau (who's white) avg 14 and 5 on a crap team no one gave a crap
There have been countless other players do what Lin has done and the media didn't give a crap.[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldn't say absolutely no one gives a crap.
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2/10 4 points 4 assists 4 rebounds 3 steals 1 block 2 turnovers in 33:45 today vs the hornets.
pretty awful.
edit: +/- was -5
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Jeremy is playing like crap, residue effect from the air ball in Miami.
I hate that he's playing so weak, getting waved off by his team mates and dumping the ball off the Harden all the time has really knocked his confidence and getting ball hawked just dribbling the ball up has resulted his team mates losing confidence in him.
I believe Harden doesn't think much of "Linsanity" you can tell when Harden looks off Lin a lot. But then rightly so, as Lin is playing so badly, but that's a vicious circle as Lin gets worse.
Jeremy needs to be more aggressive on offence. Take some damn mid range J's, floaters, instead of shooting those terrible 3s, or getting hung up on trying to get all the way to the rim.
Look at the way Parson plays, he believes in himself and plays the right way but also looks for his own shot at the same time.
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[QUOTE=miggyme1]Whats messing lin up this season is that he is tryin to live up to that fat contract!
I think it put a lot of pressure on him.jeremy lin if you out there listen to me.
Calm down,focus,remember the ancient chinese proverb "patience is a virtue",and last but not least eat some sushi befor every game.
If he does those things he will be fine.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand enough about NBA contracts, isn't jeremy's first two years guaranteed but the third year of 15 million isn't, so if Houston doesn't pick up the option and nor does anyone else, does that mean he won't get paid for the 15 million?
in which case 5 million a year isn't too bad for what you thought you were getting...
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[QUOTE=stevieming]I don't understand enough about NBA contracts, isn't jeremy's first two years guaranteed but the third year of 15 million isn't, so if Houston doesn't pick up the option and nor does anyone else, does that mean he won't get paid for the 15 million?
in which case 5 million a year isn't too bad for what you thought you were getting...[/QUOTE]
That can't be true. Otherwise NY would have matched. there is no option on the 3rd year. the poison pill 3rd year was intentionally done by Houston so NY wouldn't match.
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Melo is black??? :biggums:
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[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]That can't be true. Otherwise NY would have matched. there is no option on the 3rd year. the poison pill 3rd year was intentionally done by Houston so NY wouldn't match.[/QUOTE]
Just read that third year is a team option, and:
TEAM OPTIONS
With a Team Option, the player has no say in the outcome. If the team invokes the option, the player is under contract for another year. If the team does not invoke the option (meaning they do nothing), the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.
So if Jeremy carries on playing like the crap he is doing, he won't get that big fat pay off in the third year.
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[QUOTE=stevieming]Just read that third year is a team option, and:
TEAM OPTIONS
With a Team Option, the player has no say in the outcome. If the team invokes the option, the player is under contract for another year. If the team does not invoke the option (meaning they do nothing), the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.
So if Jeremy carries on playing like the crap he is doing, he won't get that big fat pay off in the third year.[/QUOTE]
wow really i didn't know that. i wonder why NY didn't match.
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[QUOTE=stevieming]Just read that third year is a team option, and:
TEAM OPTIONS
With a Team Option, the player has no say in the outcome. If the team invokes the option, the player is under contract for another year. If the team does not invoke the option (meaning they do nothing), the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.
So if Jeremy carries on playing like the crap he is doing, he won't get that big fat pay off in the third year.[/QUOTE]
actuAlly i just looked it up you're only part right
[QUOTE]In other words, the Knicks will have the option after the 2013-2014 season to waive Jeremy Lin, take his third-year $15 million salary and spread it out with its cap hit over the following three seasons. In each of those three seasons, the Knicks would have $5 million of dead money on the cap. Doing that would all but eliminate the insane luxury tax payment the Knicks would have to endure in 2014-2015, which is supposedly stopping them from re-signing Lin.[/QUOTE]
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Lin is top 3 in steals, blocks and rebounds for Point Guards as of tonight - not bad
And top 5 in Free Throws 90.5%
17 in Assists
If his average was 8 assists, 2 extra, which would not be hard if half his assisted easy layups were not bricked, then he would be top 5 as well in that catergory...and he is also not the first option to run the team, imagine if he was...
Defense? He locked down a Gallo postup and blocked Lebron recently, one on one :lol:
His defense rating is top tier right now
SynergySports defensive stat - Lin: 0.59 (ranked 15 in NBA for all positions so far)
He's doing everything well, but the shooting thing
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[QUOTE=stevieming]
Just read that third year is a team option
[/QUOTE]
Please don't make stuff up, Rockets will pay him 15 mil third year and that's that.
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[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Please don't make stuff up, Rockets will pay him 15 mil third year and that's that.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Third year guaranteed. Only "option" is if they waive Lin and could spread out money for salary cap purposes. But Lin is getting paid his money either way.