These demos get more ridiculous by the day :biggums:
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These demos get more ridiculous by the day :biggums:
do you honestly believe Columbus deserve his own national holiday?
its pretty well documented how big a piece of shit he was
[QUOTE=dunksby]These demos get more ridiculous by the day :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Newsflash... this has been going on for decades now.
Dude made it possible for USA to happen, leave your self-righteous bullshit aside and you will realise his influence on American history. So yes, the people of America should celebrate him.
[QUOTE=andgar923]Newsflash... this has been going on for decades now.[/QUOTE]
Somehow this makes it better?
[QUOTE=dunksby]Dude made it possible for USA to happen, leave your self-righteous bullshit aside and you will realise his influence on American history. So yes, the people of America should celebrate him.[/QUOTE]
because america would have never been found had it not been for Columbus. lol
he wasnt even first there
Just another envy the white man protest
[QUOTE=sd3035]Just another envy the white man protest[/QUOTE]
nah... just calling out a major piece of shit for being a major piece of shit.
just because a bunch of other assholes came along and benefited from him doesn't change any of that.
at the same time-- gotta give him props for having some king kong-sized balls and changing history in a whole bunch of ways.
I love it....
Really lets you know who has too much time on their hands. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=kurple]do you honestly believe Columbus deserve his own national holiday?
its pretty well documented how big a piece of shit he was[/QUOTE]
That's an unfair assessment of a different moment in time.
Back then he was labeled a hero, an adventurer, an explorer.
Just because society changes over time does not make our past any less credible or acceptable than our current society today.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Back then he was labeled a hero, an adventurer, an explorer.[/QUOTE]
by the court and common folk. but the court's whole purpose in that affair was simply exploitation and conquest, etc.
IIRC to sailors, columbus was a real motherf-cker and hardass... which was probably a very common opinion to have, working under a powerful captain going on difficult voyages.
to the peoples of the americas, obviously he was a murderer, manipulator and all-around supervillain.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]That's an unfair assessment of a different moment in time.
Back then he was labeled a hero, an adventurer, an explorer.
Just because society changes over time does not make our past any less credible or acceptable than our current society today.[/QUOTE]
This.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]That's an unfair assessment of a different moment in time.
Back then he was labeled a hero, an adventurer, an explorer.
Just because society changes over time does not make our past any less credible or acceptable than our current society today.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. It's irresponsible to judge someone from over 500 years with the moral lens of today.
Indigenous lifestyles are absolutely to be respected but they aren't innocent in all of this.
[QUOTE=gigantes]by the court and common folk. but the court's whole purpose in that affair was simply exploitation and conquest, etc.
IIRC to sailors, columbus was a real motherf-cker and hardass... which was probably a very common opinion to have, working under a powerful captain going on difficult voyages.
to the peoples of the americas, obviously he was a murderer, manipulator and all-around supervillain.[/QUOTE]
Others would say it was to spread christianity.
[QUOTE=Hawker]Others would say it was to spread christianity.[/QUOTE]
that came later.
it wasn't the church who funded the expedition, but they certainly piggy-backed off of it.