Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]I explained it. You intentionally mock Griffin by using the word GOAT in the title when clearly Griffin isn't and will never be the GOAT. You just manipulated the situation and I felt like you worded it in a way where obviously everybody was going to piss on Griffin.[/QUOTE]
If you actually read the op it says does he have top five goat power forward potential.
I used your exact words. I'm not responsible for the people who dot read the op and just post based off the title, the title draws people in to read the actual post so that i can get a wide variety of answers. everybody on ISH does it, including yourself.
"Does Blake griffin have the potential to be a top 5 power forward of all time?" Is just long And awkward.
I clarified everything in the actual post and even directly asked you for some insight on why you believe he has that level of potential.
Get off my knutts
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=BEAST Griffin]He's actually been suffering a lot in the offense employed by Chris Paul. But the leash around his neck is wearing out and he's getting better and better and some day it's going to explode and he's going to dominate. For people that said Chris Paul would make Blake Griffin...it's been more like the opposite tbh although it's been looking better recently.
#unleashgriffin[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Griffin and CP3 do not fit each other well. Clippers need to make a choice between the two. CP3 is obvious the better player, and Griffin is already in decline though being younger. If I were Clippers FO I trade Griffin, Bledsoe, Odom(used to balance salary) and picks to Wolves for Kevin Love and Alexey Shved by Dec 15th.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]If you actually read the op it says does he have top five goat power forward potential.
I used your exact words. I'm not responsible for the people who dot read the op and just post based off the title, the title draws people in to read the actual post so that i can get a wide variety of answers. everybody on ISH does it, including yourself.
"Does Blake griffin have the potential to be a top 5 power forward of all time?" Is just long And awkward.
I clarified everything in the actual post and even directly asked you for some insight on why you believe he has that level of potential.
Get off my knutts[/QUOTE]
He's off to the best 3 year start of almost any PF in NBA history. So of course the potential is there considering he's still raw and has a lot of refining to do. Barkley talked about him being one of the top 5 PF's of all time if he keeps working hard and refines his game. Hell Barkley said Blake had potential to be BETTER than him :confusedshrug: .
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=The Nets]Yeah, Griffin and CP3 do not fit each other well. Clippers need to make a choice between the two. CP3 is obvious the better player, and Griffin is already in decline though being younger. If I were Clippers FO I trade Griffin, Bledsoe, Odom(used to balance salary) and picks to Wolves for Kevin Love and Alexey Shved by Dec 15th.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=Chapallaz]No way too little D and too little moves on O.[/QUOTE]
1. Tim Duncan - #9
2. Kevin Garnett - #16
3. Karl Malone - #17
4. Charles Barkley - #18
5. Bob Pettit - #20
6. Dirk Nowitzki - #22
7. Dolph Schayes - #38
8. Kevin McHale - #40
9. Elvin Hayes - #44
10. Dennis Rodman - #50
Yup, no D, but also not enough O to overtake Barkley, Dirk, McHale.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=noob cake]1. Tim Duncan - #9
2. Kevin Garnett - #16
3. Karl Malone - #17
4. Charles Barkley - #18
5. Bob Pettit - #20
6. Dirk Nowitzki - #22
7. Dolph Schayes - #38
8. Kevin McHale - #40
9. Elvin Hayes - #44
10. Dennis Rodman - #50
Yup, no D, but also not enough O to overtake Barkley, Dirk, McHale.[/QUOTE]
Yes let's make this assessment based on 2 years and about two months from Blake. Blake's defense is already close if not better than no defense players Barkley, Dirk and McHale and he's just in his 3rd year. Blake has potential to become an elite man defender in the KG mold. Never a great shotblocker but a great ball thief for the PF spot and a versatile, top tier man defender. We are seeing it now.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Blake has potential to become an elite man defender in the KG mold. [/QUOTE]
Cmon. You're abusing the word potential.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=chazzy]Cmon. You're abusing the word potential.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean ever nearly as good as KG defensively. I mean in the sense that most of his defensive damage is done on the man D and positional defense. Blake can become a great man defender and is already becoming a "good" one this year.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Yes let's make this assessment based on 2 years and about two months from Blake. Blake's defense is already close if not better than [SIZE="7"][B][U]no defense players[/U][/B][/SIZE] Barkley, Dirk and [SIZE="7"][B][U]McHale[/U][/B][/SIZE] and he's just in his 3rd year.[/QUOTE]
:biggums: :eek: :coleman:
Just saying, bro...
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
Yes, if he improves considerably and doesn't get injured, none of which are guaranteed.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Yes let's make this assessment based on 2 years and about two months from Blake. Blake's defense is already close if not better than no defense players Barkley, Dirk and McHale and he's just in his 3rd year. [B]Blake has potential to become an elite man defender in the KG mold.[/B] Never a great shotblocker but a great ball thief for the PF spot and a versatile, top tier man defender. We are seeing it now.[/QUOTE]
With T-rex arms, easily rattled, and terrible footwork basically the opposite of KG. I dont think so.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
Gotta love CF86 I wish he was back honestly :lol
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
[B]Blake has similar qualities as Barkley in terms of athletic ability, passing and handles.
Now the difference is Barkley`s strength, godly post game, overall offensive abilities inside the 3-pointline, intimidation, coast to coasts etc.
Whats Blakes 2-Point FG% and PPG through it? [/B]
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
I thought he did but now I'm not so sure. The easily rattled part gives me pause. You have to be confident.
Re: Does Blake Griffin have GOAT potential?
I called him weak sauce eons ago.
Was never enamored with his game.
He's improved, but he's not THERE, yet.
There's many players that have tons of talent, great skills, athleticism etc. But the GREATS the 'true' Greats, have 'IT'.
Magic's game didn't scream out tons of 'skill' per se, but he had 'IT'. Griffin always disappoints. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone this off season or if CP3 demands to be traded if he's still there. I think CP3 defers to him too much. He doesn't want to offend him and fully take the team over.