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Mr. Jabbar 03-20-2013 01:42 AM

Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Which one would you rather pick to surround your superstar in order to win championships. Shortcut #1 or Option #2?

pauk 03-20-2013 01:47 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
I would take the most dominant force to ever play this game (that i have seen at least)...

I would take the guy that has 2 more rings, 2 more fmvps and 1 more mvp...

...and I would take the guy that alone produced overall better numbers than what Bosh/Wade combined produce today...

qrich 03-20-2013 01:50 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Wade and Bosh have a combined 3 rings (2 in one year) with one Finals MVP.

Shaq has 4 rings with three FMVPs. Should have been 5ive rings but we know what happened with one of them.

This is a pretty easy decision really.

Unless you are talking right now, than Wade and Bosh over a 41 year old Shaq. Hell, I'd take current Chris Kaman over a 41 year old Shaq.

Yao Ming's Foot 03-20-2013 01:51 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pauk
I would take the most dominant force to ever play this game (that i have seen at least)...

I would take the guy that has 2 more rings, 2 more fmvps and 1 more mvp...

...and I would take the guy that alone produced overall better numbers than what Bosh/Wade combined produce today...


:biggums:

You are not very good at math.

pauk 03-20-2013 01:51 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
...and I would take the guy that alone impacted his team overall better than what Bosh/Wade combined impact their team today...

Shaq i would take over 99.99% of players in NBA history.... maybe even 100%....

Mr. Jabbar 03-20-2013 01:52 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
No need to sweat it pauk, you can take shortcut #1, no one will judge you here...

plowking 03-20-2013 01:54 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Wade is my favorite player, but I'd take Shaq over anyone. Dude would make any team a contender right now.

pauk 03-20-2013 01:55 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
:biggums:

You are not very good at math.


...that or i did a typo, Shaq has 1 more ring than Wade/Bosh combined, 2 more than Wade, 3 more than Bosh... yay... whatever the case is he got more... now please dont try to derail the thread and get back to the topic, try make a valid basketball response....

qrich 03-20-2013 01:55 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plowking
Wade is my favorite player, but I'd take Shaq over anyone. Dude would make any team a contender right now.


Would the current Bobcats be a contender?

Kemba - Henderson - MKG - Mullens - Shaq?

pauk 03-20-2013 01:55 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar
No need to sweat it pauk, you can take shortcut #1, no one will judge you here...


Nah, i want more team success... you can go with "shortcut" #1...

The difference between these "shortcuts" is that one guy was the best player in the world / best player in his team / mvp / fmvp of that team, a guy who actually CARRIED that team to a championship......... and one guy was a sidekick, who got handed 3 rings on a silverplate.... so i would assume "shortcut" #2 would have been much more easier road...

Yao Ming's Foot 03-20-2013 01:56 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Pretty funny that Bosh's TS% in the playoffs last year is greater than Shaq's peak TS% during any title run. Too bad Shaq never mastered FTs.

Yao Ming's Foot 03-20-2013 01:58 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pauk
...that or i did a typo, Shaq has 1 more ring than Wade/Bosh combined, 2 more than Wade, 3 more than Bosh... yay... whatever the case is he got more... now please dont try to derail the thread and get back to the topic, try make a valid basketball response....


Your math is off everywhere. Your entire comment was simply wrong. Bosh and Wade are good for 40 pts a game. Shaq never averaged more than 30 in the regular season. What kind of conversation do you expect to have if you simply make up facts?

Yao Ming's Foot 03-20-2013 02:02 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pauk
Nah, i want more team success... you can go with "shortcut" #1...

The difference between these "shortcuts" is that one guy was the best player in the world / best player in his team / mvp / fmvp of that team, a guy who actually CARRIED that team to a championship......... and one guy was a sidekick, who got handed 3 rings on a silverplate.... so i would assume "shortcut" #2 would have been much more easier road...


29.4 PPG/ 7.3 REB/ 6.1 ASS 56 TS%

101.8 DEF RAT 50-32
99.6 DEF RAT 55-27
98.9 DEF RAT 56-26
98.0 DEF RAT 58-24

15-1 RECORD

vs

30.3 PPG/9.7 REB/5.6 58 TS%

:confusedshrug:

Mr. Jabbar 03-20-2013 02:02 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pauk
Nah, i want more team success... you can go with "shortcut" #1...

The difference between these "shortcuts" is that one guy was the best player in the world / best player in his team / mvp / fmvp of that team, a guy who actually CARRIED that team to a championship......... and one guy was a sidekick, who got handed 3 rings on a silverplate.... so i would assume "shortcut" #2 would have been much more easier road...


So you think its harder to hack a shaq than to eliminate the combined threat Wade AND bosh pose?

pauk 03-20-2013 02:04 AM

Re: Option 1:Wade + Bosh Option 2: Shaq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
Your math is off everywhere. Your entire comment was simply wrong. Bosh and Wade are good for 40 pts a game. Shaq never averaged more than 30 in the regular season. What kind of conversation do you expect to have if you simply make up facts?


Bosh & Wade in their 1 playoff championship run together averaged:

36 ppg
13 rpg

Shaq in one of his playoff championship runs averaged alone:

31 ppg
15 rpg
Shot way more efficiently...

Obviously, stats is not the entire story... Shaq was simply more impactful/dominant on both ends than Wade/Bosh are today combined, did you ever see prime Shaq play? Thats the "facts i make up"...


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