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Who comes to mind?
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Who comes to mind?
EDIT: No need to rank, just looking to see who gets mentioned.
MJ
Rodman
Gary Payton
Michael Cooper
Tony Allen
Rasheed Wallace
Ben Wallace
Bruce Bowen
Tim Duncan
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shout out to Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce
Strictly man-to-man, perimeter D? Some of the greatest m2m defenders i've ever seen:
-Gary Payton
-Michael Jordan
-Bruce Bowen
-Scottie Pippen
-Joe Dumars
-Dennis Rodman
-Kobe Bryant (inconsistent but a complete doberman when focused)
-Michael 'Coop" Cooper
-Sidney Moncrief
-Ron Artest (Prime)
[QUOTE=Vertical-24][B]Strictly man-to-man, perimeter D[/B]? Some of the greatest m2m defenders i've ever seen:
-Gary Payton
-Michael Jordan
-Bruce Bowen
-Scottie Pippen
-Joe Dumars
-Dennis Rodman
-Kobe Bryant (inconsistent but a complete doberman when focused)
-Michael 'Coop" Cooper
-Sidney Moncrief
-Ron Artest (Prime)[/QUOTE]
Post man defense is fine too, but I'd keep that separate.
[QUOTE=SCdac][img]http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0605/nba_g_bowennowitzki_268.jpg[/img]
shout out to Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce[/QUOTE]
:applause:
Tayshaun
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Battier
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Bowen
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Doug Christie
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Kidd
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Raja
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I am going to list non-superstars that are considered defensive specialist instead of the usual great defenders of all time. These are probably the best defenders of that particular era of 00's. Probably the greatest perimeter defenders in history in that era. Too many to name.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Tayshaun
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Battier
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Bowen
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Doug Christie
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Kidd
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Raja
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I am going to list non-superstars that are considered defensive specialist instead of the usual great defenders of all time. These are probably the best defenders of that particular era of 00's. Probably the greatest perimeter defenders in history in that era. Too many to name.[/QUOTE]
Cool list, thanks. That white on white Lakers uniform is ill. Hope they bring those back for all teams this year (though I think most people hated them for some reason?).
Man that white Laker uniform is sickkkk.
LeBron
This thread was made for LeBron
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Who could forget that great man defense play which completly changed the coarse of that game.
Plus he guards 1-5's (seriously he has a track record of shutting down good centers see that block splitter above and he shutdown Perkins in finals) and would rip MJ in half
Mike Conley has the best defensive footwork in the NBA today.
AK
Tony Allen
Michael Cooper
Lebron James
Gary Payton
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Joe Dumars
Dennis Johnson
King
Kobe (9 Alldefensives First teams)
Jordan (9 Alldefensives First teams)
Pippen
Payton
Elho
Battier
Bowen
Artest
Rodman
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/URL]
^^^Kobe Fullcourt man to man D on Lebron and Wade. (lol@ Hubie making excuses for Lebron)
[U]Post[/U] :
Hakeem Olajuwon
Dikembe Mutombo
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
David Robinson
Alonzo Mourning
Dwight Howard
Ben Wallace
Mark Eaton
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Bobby Jones
Tim Duncan
Dave DeBusschere
Bill Walton
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Marcus Camby
Tyson Chandler
Nate Thurmond
[U]Perimeter[/U] :
Sidney Moncrief
Alvin Robertson
Scottie Pippen
Gary Payton
Ron Artest
Michael Jordan
Norm Van Lier
Avery Bradley
Dennis Johnson
Michael Cooper
Lebron James
Joe Dumars
Bruce Bowen
Shane Battier
John Havlicek
Kobe Bryant
Tony Allen
Rajon Rondo
Jason Kidd
John Stockton
Maurice Cheeks
Walt Frazier
[U]Post & Perimeter[/U] :
Scottie Pippen
Lebron James
Dennis Rodman
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[QUOTE=pauk][U]Post[/U] :
Hakeem Olajuwon
Dikembe Mutombo
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
David Robinson
Alonzo Mourning
Dwight Howard
Ben Wallace
Mark Eaton
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Bobby Jones
Tim Duncan
Dave DeBusschere
Bill Walton
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Marcus Camby
Tyson Chandler
Nate Thurmond
[U]Perimeter[/U] :
Sidney Moncrief
Alvin Robertson
Scottie Pippen
Gary Payton
Ron Artest
Michael Jordan
Norm Van Lier
Avery Bradley
Dennis Johnson
Michael Cooper
Lebron James
Joe Dumars
Bruce Bowen
Shane Battier
John Havlicek
Kobe Bryant
Tony Allen
Rajon Rondo
Jason Kidd
John Stockton
Maurice Cheeks
Walt Frazier
[U]Post & Perimeter[/U] :
Scottie Pippen
Lebron James
Dennis Rodman[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=branslowski]Kobe (9 Alldefensives First teams)
Jordan (9 Alldefensives First teams)
Pippen
Payton
Elho
Battier
Bowen
Artest
Rodman
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/URL]
^^^Kobe Fullcourt man to man D on Lebron and Wade. (lol@ Hubie making excuses for Lebron)[/QUOTE]
Hubie is right... :confusedshrug: Kwame Brown got away with a foul there, that is the entire reason to why Lebron losed the ball, even if you refuse to call it a foul that is still the entire reason to why Lebron losed the ball, Kwame.... yes Kobe played great full court press, doesnt take that away, but thats not the point, the point is that turnover would have happened even if Kobe was on the bench at that time if only Kwame would be around and did the same thing there....
[QUOTE=VIntageNOvel]baiting
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[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iIt2H7tUCwM/UTYojg0zu5I/AAAAAAAABKk/AiT1OO-wlI4/s400/Kobe+Blocks+LeBron.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Not sure if i understand this "bait" of yours....
Kobe blocks Lebron... yay... ?
Lebron blocks Kobe.... [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjtGMqm9o8[/url]... yay... ?
[QUOTE=pauk]Hubie is right... :confusedshrug: Kwame Brown got away with a foul there, that is the entire reason to why Lebron losed the ball, even if you refuse to call it a foul that is still the entire reason to why Lebron losed the ball, Kwame.... yes Kobe played great full court press, doesnt take that away, but thats not the point, the point is that turnover would have happened even if Kobe was on the bench at that time if only Kwame would be around and did the same thing there....[/QUOTE]
That wasn't a foul. Kwame was there first. If anything, its a foul on Lebron.
These guys could deserve a mention aswell....
Perimeter :
Josh Smith
Andrei Kirilenko
Dwyane Wade
Doug Christie
Nate Mcmillan
Fat Lever
Chris Paul
Michael Ray Richardson
Jerry West
Jerry Sloan
Grant Hill
Post :
Patrick Ewing
Kevin McHale
Yao Ming
Wes Unseld
Robert Parish
Moses Malone
Dave Cowens
Shaquille Oneal
Elvin Hayes
Artis Gilmore
Post & Perimeter :
Josh Smith
Andrei Kirilenko
Grant Hill
[QUOTE=plowking]That wasn't a foul. Kwame was there first. If anything, its a foul on Lebron.[/QUOTE]
He was.. maybe... but the foul is not just arguably there but on the swipe aswell... again, that is what Hubie (a legendary coach & basketball mind) is talking about... and again, doesnt take away the fact that Kobe played great full court press defense.... but imagine if Kwame was not there doing what he did, it would have been a dunk for Lebron...
[QUOTE=pauk]He was.. maybe... but the foul is not just arguably there but on the swipe aswell... again, that is what Hubie (a legendary coach & basketball mind) is talking about... and again, doesnt take away the fact that Kobe played great full court press defense.... but imagine if Kwame was not there doing what he did, it would have been a dunk for Lebron...[/QUOTE]
But he was there, because basketball has 5 people on each team... Kobe played perfect man defense, and Kwame played perfect help defense.
There was no foul. The closest thing being an offensive foul on that play.
[QUOTE=VIntageNOvel]baiting
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[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iIt2H7tUCwM/UTYojg0zu5I/AAAAAAAABKk/AiT1OO-wlI4/s400/Kobe+Blocks+LeBron.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
We are talking about LeBron on defense in this thread, not him being blocked by a random guy in meaningless all star game on offense:no:
[QUOTE=plowking]But he was there, because basketball has 5 people on each team... Kobe played perfect man defense, and Kwame played perfect help defense.
There was no foul. The closest thing being an offensive foul on that play.[/QUOTE]
If Kwame doubled/helped but didnt do that so called "NON FOUL" then Lebron would have dropped it of to Z for a put in/shot considering Kwame left Z or he would kicked it out to one of the shooters... and Kwame knew it... there is a reason Kwame did that "NON FOUL"....
We are kindof derailing the thread aswell lol....
[QUOTE=pauk]If Kwame doubled/helped but didnt do that so called "NON FOUL" then Lebron would have dropped it of to Z for a put in/shot considering Kwame left Z or he would kicked it out to one of the shooters... and Kwame knew it... there is a reason Kwame did that "NON FOUL"....[/QUOTE]
He didn't foul him. End of story. Hubie gets caught in the act more than any other commentator. He sees a lot of shit, but he says a lot of shit too, then tries to justify it.
Nothing happened on that play. No foul. Just great defense.
[QUOTE=plowking]He didn't foul him. End of story. Hubie gets caught in the act more than any other commentator. He sees a lot of shit, but he says a lot of shit too, then tries to justify it.
Nothing happened on that play. No foul. Just great defense.[/QUOTE]
Whatever you say.... :rolleyes:
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:roll:
[QUOTE=VIntageNOvel]baiting
[IMG]http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kobe-lebron-block.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iIt2H7tUCwM/UTYojg0zu5I/AAAAAAAABKk/AiT1OO-wlI4/s400/Kobe+Blocks+LeBron.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
lmao :oldlol:
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No, not Melo.
EBled also has potential to make this list
I first heard of Xavier McDaniel maybe a month or two ago.. but what about him? Was he a great defender, or just a tough guy?
Another name I don't think I've seen, though I may have missed it, is Kurt Thomas. He was a good defensive post player, was he not?
Why does almost everyone post only perimeter players?
The ones that first come to my mind are:
Russell
Thurmond
Wilt
Mutombo
Some of the lesser known great man to man perimeter defenders:
Mookie Blaylock
Speedy Claxton
Avery Bradley
These dudes were beasts on the perimeter on defense
jimmy butler will be on the all time list
Norris Cole :pimp:
Jordan
Pippen
James
Bowen
Kidd
Can't decide between those 5.
clyde frazier
gary payton
jason kidd
derek harper
dennis johnson
micheal cooper
[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]LeBron[/QUOTE]
JOKE :roll: