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Hate to say it ... Lebron is overrated
Im a Cleveland fan and I live in Cleveland but Lebron is overrated. The media was overhyping this guy from the beginning and he hasnt lived up to expectations. Hes a complete choke in the 4th quarter. His jump shot is terrible. All of his points are either dunks, layups, or foul shots. The Spurs forced him into shooting jumpers and look what happened. He chokes at the free throw line as well. I always hear about potential but potential and present-day skill are completely different. Hes good for dunking over ppl if thats what ppl call greatness. He had one good game against detroit and ppl bow down to him. What was his field goal percentage in the finals...20%?! If gibson was not on the team the cavs would have never won game 6 against detroit.
Im not saying that hes a bad player and I still think hes a top 5 nba player right now. But nonetheless unless he develops and jump shot and becomes more clutch he will never be what ppl say he is. I do give him credit for making it to the finals w/ a fairly bad team but who did the cavs play...a depleted wizards team, an aging nets team, and the pistons who have lost their edge. Cleveland desperately needs a championship and I hope Lebron gets out of this funk hes in and becomes a winner.
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Kid, How can you be a Cleveland fan if your name is D-wade?
:confusedshrug:
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Cleveland fan with Dwade username lol
lets wait for cannonball and lebron23... this is going to be fun
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Oooh! a D-Wade fan calling Lebron overrated. Can't wait to hear the responses...
But yeah, personally I think this whole Lebron "Chosen 1" "King" or whatever is gone overboard.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]Im a Cleveland fan and I live in Cleveland but Lebron is overrated.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: And yet you have D-Wade in your username.
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whats wrong with having d-wade username...i do
like d-wade better but im still a cleveland fan even tho it is prolly the worst sports city with 3 major teams
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Lebron is not overrated... he is a beast... wade is the one who is overrated, but people on ish know that...
P.S. - Paul Pierce is underrated...
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]Im a Cleveland fan and I live in Cleveland but Lebron is overrated. The media was overhyping this guy from the beginning and he hasnt lived up to expectations. Hes a complete choke in the 4th quarter. His jump shot is terrible. All of his points are either dunks, layups, or foul shots. The Spurs forced him into shooting jumpers and look what happened. He chokes at the free throw line as well. I always hear about potential but potential and present-day skill are completely different. Hes good for dunking over ppl if thats what ppl call greatness. He had one good game against detroit and ppl bow down to him. What was his field goal percentage in the finals...20%?! If gibson was not on the team the cavs would have never won game 6 against detroit.
Im not saying that hes a bad player and I still think hes a top 5 nba player right now. But nonetheless unless he develops and jump shot and becomes more clutch he will never be what ppl say he is. I do give him credit for making it to the finals w/ a fairly bad team but who did the cavs play...a depleted wizards team, an aging nets team, and the pistons who have lost their edge. Cleveland desperately needs a championship and I hope Lebron gets out of this funk hes in and becomes a winner.[/QUOTE]
First off, LeBron is still 22 years old. Many 22 years old in the league just finished up their rookie season. He is still learning and growing. Everyone has to face adversity and hard times before the reach the mountaintop. It took Jordan many times before he was able to overcome the Pistons and get to the finals.
As for the level of competition, true the east sucks, but they still had to show up, execute, and make shots. Would they have made it to the finals if they were in the western conference? Hell no. HOwever, the real world isn't about hypotheticals. They played the hand that they were dealt, and did something that no other Cleveland team has ever done
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bron gets a lot of hype but he's almost a sure fire hall of famer too. he's one of the most uniquely gifted athletes i've ever seen with his combination of strength, speed, and coordination. he's a team-oriented guy who wants to make smart plays rather than forcing his own number which is what it takes to win - though you need the right system and the right chemistry for it to work. his defense has improved. he's what 22? imo it would take a lot of bad luck to keep this kid from spearheading a dynasty once cleveland puts all the pieces together.
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[QUOTE=dejordan]bron gets a lot of hype but he's almost a sure fire hall of famer too. he's one of the most uniquely gifted athletes i've ever seen with his combination of strength, speed, and coordination. he's a team-oriented guy who wants to make smart plays rather than forcing his own number which is what it takes to win - though you need the right system and the right chemistry for it to work. his defense has improved. he's what 22? imo it would take a lot of bad luck to keep this kid from spearheading a dynasty once cleveland puts all the pieces together.[/QUOTE]
lol cleveland has had plenty of bad luck...but i agree with everything u said except thats hes a sure hall of famer b/c like u said hes only 22
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Aren't you the same person that said D-Wade is the entire Miami Heat team and that James Posey is a pure jumpshooter? :oldlol:
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[img]http://www.hotrodsworld.com/images/lebron-james-mvp-poster.jpg[/img]
Lebron might be hype by ESPN and David Stern but he deserve the praise of his peers and other NBA Players, he is probably one of the top 3 best player in the NBA. It not only take guts, talents and athletism to make it in the NBA Finals and beating Detroit in 6 games but James show some heart and emotion by being unselfish to his teammates.
Lebron James scoring 29 out of his team 30 Points only prove that big time players step up on big time competition. If Lebron James choke in the 1st round of the playoffs, we can all say that he is an overrated player but coming up from HS he even exceed his expectation only on his 4th season and reaching the NBA Finals.
Just what Tim Duncan said Lebron will learn from his past mistake and he will be getting his championship rings once his team is well organize and the missing piece in the puzzle has been added.
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[QUOTE=Richie2k6]Aren't you the same person that said D-Wade is the entire Miami Heat team and that James Posey is a pure jumpshooter? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
not the posey part.....arent u the one who said that gary payton is still great at driving to the basket...:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]not the posey part.....arent u the one who said that gary payton is still great at driving to the basket...:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
No... you said he was useless and I said he wasn't.
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Wow i wouldnt say Lebron is overrated at all...Dude is a beast, i dont like his game but I wouldnt say he is overrated..He is a top 5 player in the league at age 22...thats amazing
The only people who come close to overrating Lebron is ESPN... did any1 see Who's Now when Mike from Mike and Mike said... "we came up with the idea of Who's Now for Lebron James"
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[QUOTE=Lebron23][img]http://www.hotrodsworld.com/images/lebron-james-mvp-poster.jpg[/img]
Lebron might be hype by ESPN and David Stern but he deserve the praise of his peers and other NBA Players, he is probably one of the top 3 best player in the NBA. It not only take guts, talents and athletism to make it in the NBA Finals and beating Detroit in 6 games but James show some heart and emotion by being unselfish to his teammates.
Lebron James scoring 29 out of his team 30 Points only prove that big time players step up on big time competition. If Lebron James choke in the 1st round of the playoffs, we can all say that he is an overrated player but coming up from HS he even exceed his expectation only on his 4th season and reaching the NBA Finals.
Just what Tim Duncan said Lebron will learn from his past mistake and he will be getting his championship rings once his team is well organize and the missing piece in the puzzle has been added.[/QUOTE]
the only thing is the cavs arent doing anything in the offseason point guard wise...i like gibson but i think he is more of shooter than a facilitator...i wish they would trade for bibby by dealing varejao, hughes, and maybe even gibson...w/e it takes...I hate varejao for what he did in game 3 of the finals...he thought he was michael Jordan driving to the basket at the end when he shouldve passed it to lebron
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[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Wow i wouldnt say Lebron is overrated at all...Dude is a beast, i dont like his game but I wouldnt say he is overrated..He is a top 5 player in the league at age 22...thats amazing
The only people who come close to overrating Lebron is ESPN... did any1 see Who's Now when Mike from Mike and Mike said... "we came up with the idea of Who's Now for Lebron James"[/QUOTE]
Whos Now should be called Whos Gay...I mean how the hell was shaq ranked higher than wade...are we talkin about whos then or whos now
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Lebron is overrated by some but he does have flaws but who doesn't? He is only 22 he will probably develop his jumper to be atleast a bit better. When his team gets better he will win rings and all that. He has lived up to the hype. He took his team to the finals. What more do you want from a 22 year old.
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Lebron and Dwade are both overated bec of the david stern rules. He has been trying to give some life and hype to the east and is looking for his next MJ
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[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]Lebron is overrated by some but he does have flaws but who doesn't? He is only 22 he will probably develop his jumper to be atleast a bit better. When his team gets better he will win rings and all that. He has lived up to the hype. He took his team to the finals. What more do you want from a 22 year old.[/QUOTE]
To at least show up in the finals
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[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Wow i wouldnt say Lebron is overrated at all...Dude is a beast, i dont like his game but I wouldnt say he is overrated..He is a top 5 player in the league at age 22...thats amazing
The only people who come close to overrating Lebron is ESPN... did any1 see Who's Now when Mike from Mike and Mike said... "we came up with the idea of Who's Now for Lebron James"[/QUOTE]
:applause:
I have to applaud you, I was fully expecting you to come in and bash lebron.
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Lebron is overrated. I think hes a good player and i do agree that he will get better. But alot of people act like hes already become that player that he may be in 4 years. Lets hope he gets a jumpshot before ESPN turns on him and starts hyping Kevin Durant.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]To at least show up in the finals[/QUOTE]
He showed up. He played his hardest. The spurs were to good. I'm wouldn't admit it at the beginning but the cavs had no chance. Well they had a chance, but not a realistic one.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]To at least show up in the finals[/QUOTE]
It was his own fault he was stupid enough to shoot 34% because he was scared to attack the rim when Bruce Bowen, the, what, 6"5 man? was guarding him. I remember in one of the games, he posted him up and layed it in twice in a row and it worked with ease. Third time? He started shooting jumpshots again.
He was playing stupidly for the most part.
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[quote=d-wade2923]To at least show up in the finals[/quote]
Well its the Spurs probably the best defensive team in the league. Yes Lebron did make some bad mistakes but its his first finals and you can't expect an amazing performance vs. the great defense. Lebron wasn't too bad in game 3 of the series. 25 8 rebs 7 ast on 9-23 shooting. But I agree that he wasn't what I expected him to be.
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[QUOTE=YAWN]Lebron is overrated. I think hes a good player and i do agree that he will get better. But alot of people act like hes already become that player that he may be in 4 years. Lets hope he gets a jumpshot before ESPN turns on him and starts hyping Kevin Durant.[/QUOTE]
He is a top 5 player no question.
If he gets a J which I know he will, he will be the best in the nba. Right now kobe is deff better.
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[QUOTE=Cannonball]He showed up. He played his hardest. The spurs were to good. I'm wouldn't admit it at the beginning but the cavs had no chance. Well they had a chance, but not a realistic one.[/QUOTE]
The cavs beat the spurs twice in the season so i think it would be fair to say that the spurs were not as invincible as every1 is saying they are
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[QUOTE=Richie2k6]It was his own fault he was stupid enough to shoot 34% because he was scared to attack the rim when Bruce Bowen, the, what, 6"5 man? was guarding him. I remember in one of the games, he posted him up and layed it in twice in a row and it worked with ease. Third time? He started shooting jumpshots again.
He was playing stupidly for the most part.[/QUOTE]
Exactly I remember that, I was like why doesn't he go to the post he can pwn bowen down there? He went down a couple times got some easy scores and then wtf no more? I think that could be browns fault tho. Why wouldn't he tell lebron to get his ass on the block?
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[quote=d-wade2923]The cavs beat the spurs twice in the season so i think it would be fair to say that the spurs were not as invincible as every1 is saying they are[/quote]
Season really doesn't mean ****.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]The cavs beat the spurs twice in the season so i think it would be fair to say that the spurs were not as invincible as every1 is saying they are[/QUOTE]
I think its safe to say that the bobcats are better than the cavs then. :rollingeyes:
Yep the bobcats beat the cavs twice in the reg season.
Bobcats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cavs.
:banghead:
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[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]Season really doesn't mean ****.[/QUOTE]
It does sometimes...Golden State was successful against dallas in the season and it carried over to the playoffs
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[QUOTE=Cannonball]I think its safe to say that the bobcats are better than the cavs then. :rollingeyes:
Yep the bobcats beat the cavs twice in the reg season.
Bobcats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cavs.
:banghead:[/QUOTE]
I didnt say that the cavs are better than the spurs. I just said that the spurs were obviously beatable since the cavs beat them twice in the regular season.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]I didnt say that the cavs are better than the spurs. I just said that the spurs were obviously beatable since the cavs beat them twice in the regular season.[/QUOTE]
But the Spurs have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Finley, Popovich. All have experience in the Playoffs. The Cavaliers really didn't have much of that at all.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]I didnt say that the cavs are better than the spurs. I just said that the spurs were obviously beatable since the cavs beat them twice in the regular season.[/QUOTE]
No it does not. The cavs with kobe in place of lebron would have won one more game. Why is it lebrons fault?
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[QUOTE=Richie2k6]But the Spurs have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Finley, Popovich. All have experience in the Playoffs. The Cavaliers really didn't have much of that at all.[/QUOTE]
WE HAD ERIC SNOW...hahahaha
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[QUOTE=Cannonball]No it does not. The cavs with kobe in place of lebron would have won one more game. Why is it lebrons fault?[/QUOTE]
I think its the teams fault more than lebron. But lebron sure didnt help things but throwing up bricks and turning the ball over. One thing that I cannot stand about lebron is how he continuously dribbles outside the arc doing absolutely nothing with the ball and then he fires up a crazy 3 when the shot winds down. And by the way...I hate mike brown. Youd think that the cavs would hire an experienced coach whos won b4 to help a bright superstar along.
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[QUOTE=d-wade2923]I think its the teams fault more than lebron. But lebron sure didnt help things but throwing up bricks and turning the ball over. One thing that I cannot stand about lebron is how he continuously dribbles outside the arc doing absolutely nothing with the ball and then he fires up a crazy 3 when the shot winds down. And by the way...I hate mike brown. Youd think that the cavs would hire an experienced coach whos won b4 to help a bright superstar along.[/QUOTE]
Agreed with the dribbling out at the 3 and standing there with the ball in his arms staring at the guy... Wtf is that?
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[QUOTE=brwnman]Lebron is not overrated... he is a beast... [B]wade is the one who is overrated[/B], but people on ish know that...
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agreed...
Lee-Bron > Wade
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[QUOTE=-primetime-]agreed...
Lee-Bron > Wade[/QUOTE]
not by much.
more like half of a (>).
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[QUOTE=-primetime-]agreed...
Lee-Bron > Wade[/QUOTE]
after what wade did to your Mavs i thought you would show him more respect, but you seem to always trash him...