Let's go. First stop lottery!
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Let's go. First stop lottery!
#1 pick!
I'd look to trade it. They don't need a young 3 man bigs rotation though Noel could make some sense coming off injury. He might not be back until mid December and than could be sent to D-League for rehab for a while than if he forces their hand with his play there they could make a move. Might be in tank mode by that point of the season anyway. With Favors possibly in line for a Hibbert type contract it would be a lot easier to let him go with Noel sounding like the same type of defensive presence.
One scout says McLemore is better than Ray Allen But others don't think much of him.
C.J. McCollum sounds like the best fit at the one to me and he is projected to be picked in the middle of the first.
Could look at a sf. With Burks and Hayward running the offense there might be room for another young guy there and a posssible replacement for G if he gets a Batum like deal thrown at him.
Other than a combo guard to play alongside Burks and G they should be looking at guys to leave in Europe or the D-League unless they are better than the young guys they alreay have and I'm not sure those players are in this draft so trades are fine with me.
With a GM from SA I hope they start using their formula. They used the D-League for a while this year. Not sure why Murphy didn't go back there after they got healthier though?
Could look at the best player available and once Paul signs with the Clpps and Bledsoe becomes available they can make their move for him.
[QUOTE]Bill Oram: Marvin Williams, who has an early out: "I haven
[QUOTE]David Locke: Dennis Lindsey "Tyrone Corbin is our coach and has the Miller family full support." Twitter @Lockedonsports
Bill Oram: Lindsey: "By and large Ty did an outstanding job of managing nine pending free agents and four quality big men." Twitter @tribjazz
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Not surprising. Couldn't see them eating his contract. Whatever complaints you might have about him I'd argue that they have overachieved the past two years.
The talk that things would be different with Jerry are funny too. I had similar complaints about Jerry but nothing would have changed. Ty was slow to make adjustments but he has. You can see him growing with his young team.
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Jason Washburn from the University of Utah has been invited to work out for the Jazz before the draft. I assume Brandon Davies of BYU will too. Maybe Noah Harstock again since he was still rehabbing last year when they brought him in.
My biggest problem with Corbin was his rotations, but I imagine that'll clear itself up a bit next year with one or both of Jefferson and Millsap leaving.
All up for trading the pick, they have a young enough core, so you need to start adding some firepower that fits with what they're building with.
I think Marvin will stay, unless he gets a long term $6 million+ offer elsewhere, which I cannot see happening.
Yeah I think you have to look at the team the front office has given him and what he inherited. You can't put it all on him. Next year should truly be his team and we can judge him a lot more harshly.
Marvin won't opt out I'm sure but he has an expiring contract that needs to be moved even if it means bringing back more money/years etc. Just like they took on his ETO to get rid of Harris' expiring contract and shitty play.
[QUOTE]With three and a half point guards on the team — the three being veteran free agents and the half being a two-guard who is unlikely to make a career at the position, the Utah Jazz are bound to make changes at the point guard position in the offseason. Deseret News
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They forgot McNeal who I could see being back on the cheap if he impresses this summer and in the fall. As a combo guard he could fit with G and Burks more than the 2 old guys anyway. One of which has to go! Hopefully Watson.
[QUOTE]Mo Williams did say he would love to return to the team that drafted him with the 47th pick back in the 2003 NBA Draft and then re-acquired him this past offseason in a four-team trade with the Los Angeles Clippers. “Absolutely, they know that,” he said. “First off, I was drafted here. This was the organization that gave me a shot when I first came in the league when I was a young pup. I’m at a point in my career where stability is the key and this is an organization that is top notch and cares about winning.” Deseret News
Tinsley, who joined the Jazz in 2011 after spending a season in the D-League, is grateful to the Jazz for giving him a chance and expressed a desire to stick around another year. “I would love to come back here, but that ain’t up to me,” he said. “I don’t control that, I let my agent control that.” Deseret News
Watson, who injured his right knee late in the 2012 season and rehabbed throughout the offseason, was uncertain about his plans for next year. “I don’t know, I don’t know,” he said. “It’s a long way from now. The first thing is to get healthy. My main thing now is getting healthy, because if I can’t contribute 100 percent healthy, I’d rather contribute doing something else.” Deseret News[/QUOTE]
So Watson has been playing hurt? That's news.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Yeah I think you have to look at the team the front office has given him and what he inherited. You can't put it all on him. Next year should truly be his team and we can judge him a lot more harshly.
Marvin won't opt out I'm sure but he has an expiring contract that needs to be moved even if it means bringing back more money/years etc. Just like they took on his ETO to get rid of Harris' expiring contract and shitty play.[/QUOTE]
Yea, I do understand that he wasn't in a clear situation, where normally a team is tanking or trying to make the playoffs and the Jazz are/were kind of caught between both.
All for Tinsley returning, Watson can leave. Williams would be a good guy to keep around for a few years if they can find a young PG who needs time to develop. Also could play SG/6th man role if they managed to get Blesdoe or someone like that. You would think they could sign him to a decently priced 3 year deal.
Need to use Mo off the ball more rather he is starting or coming off the bench.
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/2/DeMarre-Carroll.html[/url]
[QUOTE]That hard-nosed effort paid off multiple times for him throughout the year and earned coach Tyrone Corbin's respect.[/QUOTE]
It did? Why did he keep getting benched?
[quote]Carroll, a free agent, is not likely to return next year. Still looking for an opportunity to make a major name for himself, Carroll will not command a high payroll next year. During the 2012-13 season, Carroll made $885,120, and though he increased his value with his energy play, he'll be a role player no matter where he goes next year.[/quote]
Why won't he be back? He's worth a contract like Evans got that's for sure. 2-3 million a year I'd think. 4 on the high side maybe.
[QUOTE]On summer plans: "Actually to get better. My whole mindset is I'm going to try to get film on guys like Bruce Bowen and come back even better and be a corner knockdown 3-point shooter. I'm just going to be overall better. I'm more hungry (now) and I think my game has improved and I can only get better."
Quotable: "For me, it was a great season. I've been blessed. This is my best season I've had since I've been in the NBA and I think I showed, proven myself, that I'm a great rotational player."[/QUOTE]
I like him better than Bowen. I wouldn't call him a great rotational player. Ideally he's an end of the bench energy guy but he should have been playing ahead of Marvin this year certainly! I hope he's back at the right price. I'm sure there will be plenty of interest in him around the league though.
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/1/Alec-Burks.html[/url]
[QUOTE] A versatile combo guard, Burks' strong suit is creating plays by driving to the basket or taking quick catch-and-shoot threes from the perimeter. He is at his best when he is paired in the backcourt with a pure point guard that can set him up on a number of different plays.[/QUOTE]
Don't think catch and shoot 3's are his strong suit and I think he was at his best when he got to play the 1.
[QUOTE]Quotable: "I got to play multiple positions. I got better throughout the year. I feel like my in between game should get a lot better."[/QUOTE]
I think the sky is the limit with him. Last year he just put his head down and drove to the rim. I wondered if he could play within the offense and he showed a lot this year. Really looking forward to seeing him get big minutes(hopefully) next year at 3 positions.
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/3/Jeremy-Evans.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Evans is under contract for two more years, and with the likely departure of at least one big man ahead of him in the rotation, it's reasonable to say he could get more minutes in an increased role next season.[/QUOTE]
I like him and think he might be able to be a rotational player in the league if given the chance especially after seeing him hit some jumpers late in the year but I don't want to see him in rotation with two other young guys. Need a seasoned vet in the mix. A great energy guy at the end of the bench anyway.
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/7/Al-Jefferson.html[/url]
[QUOTE]He has established himself as a premier big man in the NBA, and as such, will command a premier salary.
This season, Jefferson made $15 million. Whether the Jazz will choose to retain him for at least that much money over the next few seasons is another matter entirely, and is completely unknown.[/QUOTE]
It's a no brainer to me at any price. They better not bring him back. Sorry Al!
[QUOTE]Quotable: "It could be a totally different Utah Jazz team next year or it could be the same team next year. But one thing I do know about the Jazz
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/10/Paul-Millsap.html[/url]
[QUOTE]This is the second time Millsap has faced a real possibility of leaving Utah, though his departure this time around is much more likely.[/QUOTE]
Not sure I'd call it more likely. They had to take out a bank loan to keep him last time to match Portland's offer and pay him up front.
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/13/Earl-Watson.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Watson's return to Utah is unlikely at best.[/QUOTE]
I think he or Tinsley could be back. Tinsley should get more interest around the league and leave the Jazz with Watson.
[QUOTE]On summer plans: Continuing to rehab from his injury, getting healthy and taking his daughter to Disneyland.[/QUOTE]
Didn't know he was still hurt!
[QUOTE]Quotable: "A year or two from now this team will not be together, obviously, and you're going to see players go to other teams and have amazing runs in the postseason and you're going to sit back and think how good this team could have been. We could never really capture our full potential."[/QUOTE]
I think they exceeded their potential. Mediocre talent fighting for the playoffs.
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1455/15/Mo-Williams.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Indeed, the last remaining piece Utah needs to seriously contend is a premier point guard, which is a luxury the Jazz have missed ever since Deron Williams' departure.
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Contend for what? They need star power and a go to guy. They need defense. Their young guys have a lot of potential but still plenty of question marks some of which should start getting answered next year.
[QUOTE]by his own admission, Williams was never 100 percent down the stretch for the Jazz.
If Utah wants the former NBA All-Star back on its roster, it won't likely have to pay $8.5 million, but Williams will still be a commodity under significant demand. The alternative is to find a point guard besides Williams on the free-agent market, to trade for a point guard or to draft a point guard.
Of those three options, the most likely is to find a point guard on the market should Williams not return.[/QUOTE]
They need a vet. Possibly Mo. They also need a young guy.
[url]http://rockmonster.blogs.deseretnews.com/2013/04/19/lindsey-takes-jazz-blame/[/url]
[QUOTE] General manager Dennis Lindsey said on Thursday that
[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/56190347-87/jazz-hayward-favors-gordon.html.csp[/url]
Some more insight into what next season might look like.
[QUOTE]Indiana
[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/56189385-87/hayward-gordon-jazz-role.html.csp[/url]
Some more from G.
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[QUOTE]For the fifth-straight year, the Jazz organization will send a squad of youngsters and NBA hopefuls to the Orlando Pro Summer League, General Manager Dennis Lindsey confirmed.
Dates haven't been announced, but that summer event will take place in early July at the Amway Center's practice court.
Jazz rookie Kevin Murphy and late-season pickup Jerel McNeal are among the likely invitees, and it wouldn't be surprising if Enes Kanter made an appearance while rehabbing from his left shoulder injury.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't mind seeing Hayward and Favors at least in camp. They could still use it. Evans should play.
[QUOTE]Last summer, DeMarre Carroll, Alec Burks, Jeremy Evans, Kanter, Blake Ahearn, John Millsap, and Michael Stockton were on Utah's roster.
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Would like to Stockton back. He was impressive. Maybe Elijiah Millsap this time around.
[QUOTE]Burks was named to the All-Summer League team, thanks to an average of 17.2 points. Kanter averaged 8.8 rebounds for the 3-2 Jazz squad.
If the Jazz keep their three draft picks (14th, 21st and 46th), those players would also likely participate.
The NBA puts on a summer league in Las Vegas, which ultimately led to the Rocky Mountain Revue's demise after its run from 1984-2008. Since 2009, the Jazz have preferred to attend the more intimate Orlando event, which isn't open to the public but televises all of the games.
Along with the Jazz, the Heat, Rockets, Nets, Celtics, Pistons, Pacers, Thunder, 76ers and Magic are expected to participate in Orlando's 2013 summer league, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
The Orlando Pro Summer League is also reportedly considering a tournament structure with pool play and a championship game instead of just having teams play five times in consecutive days.
2013-14 PRESEASON: The Jazz previously announced that they'll play Portland in Boise on Oct. 11 in an exhibition game. Turns out, Utah will also face the Lakers twice in the exhibition season
[QUOTE]Arash Markazi: CP3 on Bledsoe: "There
[QUOTE]If Jennings
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Looks like CP3 plans on being back in LA. No surprise. He is right though. They won't be able to afford to keep Bledsoe or keep him happy coming off the bench even if they did pay him He will become available as soon as Paul signs.[/QUOTE]
Blesdoe isn't a free agent to next year right? Would have to trade for him? Maybe the Jazz can tempt the Clippers with one of their draft picks. Gets the Jazz a quality starting PG, Clippers get another rookie scale deal and hopefully someone who can contribute, especially since they'll be capped out when Paul signs and have guys like Barnes, Billups, Odom and Turiaf as free agents.
He'll be in the last year of his rookie deal. Same as G and Favors. Could get real expensive in a hurry if they have to dole out big money to all of them at the same time. Jazz could also take on contracts like Butler or Willie Green with their cap space.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]He'll be in the last year of his rookie deal. Same as G and Favors. Could get real expensive in a hurry if they have to dole out big money to all of them at the same time. Jazz could also take on contracts like Butler or Willie Green with their cap space.[/QUOTE]
Willie Green has a team option and it's only $1.3 million, so I doubt they'd be able to get anything better any cheaper and if they don't want him they can cut him. Butler would be the obvious choice at $8 million if they wanted to cut salaries, which is a realistic proposition with their owner. Clippers basically will have all their salary tied up in their version of the Big 3 with Griffin, Paul and Jordan with Crawford on a MLE deal and a bunch of minimum deals to fill out the rest of the roster. It'd leave them thin in the 3 spot, but i'm sure the Jazz could send back Evans or Carroll in return who don't make more than a few million?
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Willie Green has a team option and it's only $1.3 million, so I doubt they'd be able to get anything better any cheaper and if they don't want him they can cut him.[/quote]
OK. The site I looked at had something by his years so I wasn't sure with him. Deandre is the other one but I wouldn't take him!
[quote]Butler would be the obvious choice at $8 million if they wanted to cut salaries, which is a realistic proposition with their owner. Clippers basically will have all their salary tied up in their version of the Big 3 with Griffin, Paul and Jordan with Crawford on a MLE deal and a bunch of minimum deals to fill out the rest of the roster. It'd leave them thin in the 3 spot, but i'm sure the Jazz could send back Evans or Carroll in return who don't make more than a few million?[/QUOTE]
I think Crawford has some option too?
Jazz might draft a young wing at the 21st slot that could look good to the Clipps as well as Evans. Murphy and McNeal would be nice for a team in a trade with non-guaranteed deals. Their first pick who should be a pg/combo guard could be expendable too if they got Bledsoe not to mention Burks, who I wouldn't want to see go
They also have their 2nd round pick and future picks to throw in as well as the TPE they'd get for the Jazz taking on salary and Tomic's rights. Carroll would have to be a sign and trade. Getting another team involved so they could unload Marvin would be sweet.
Butler is an expiring contract so I could certainly see the Jazz doing it. His money could go to paying the kids next summer. I think he'd be a good fit too. Start him with Burks or Hayward. He can handle the ball. Pass. Shoot. He's not the player he was before his injury in Dallas but a nice vet that should fit better than Marvin or Foye.
[QUOTE]Jeff Teague
I don't think Crawford has any ETO's on his contract and you'd think they'd need at least 1 player off the bench who can handle the ball if they trade Blesdoe and Billups retires.
Early 2nd round picks should be gold to a team way above the cap like the Clippers. You have a chance to grab a player who slips out of the 1st round, while getting him on a cheaper, non-guaranteed deal.
[QUOTE]Jarrett Jack
[QUOTE=El Kabong]I don't think Crawford has any ETO's on his contract and you'd think they'd need at least 1 player off the bench who can handle the ball if they trade Blesdoe and Billups retires.
Early 2nd round picks should be gold to a team way above the cap like the Clippers. You have a chance to grab a player who slips out of the 1st round, while getting him on a cheaper, non-guaranteed deal.[/QUOTE]
Clipps need some young guys on the wing and at the one if Bledsoe goes. Doesn't sound like Billups will retire if the Clipps want him back.
[QUOTE]Chauncey Billups
[QUOTE]Derrick Favors: I hate not being able to play in the playoffs Twitter @dfavors14[/QUOTE]
Guess he's not into tanking like most fans seem to be these days.
[QUOTE]All the rumors are getting to Shane Larkin. Various reports indicate the Miami sophomore is on the verge of declaring for the NBA draft. Not so, Larkin said Wednesday afternoon on Twitter. He even finalized the date and time for the decision. "Don
[QUOTE]What will the asking price be for OJ Mayo this summer? ---> Steve Kyler: hefty, hearing Utah could go hard at him. Twitter @stevekylerNBA[/QUOTE]
Interesting, not sure why you'd be paying a "hefy" price for OJ Mayo though.
[QUOTE]What will the asking price be for OJ Mayo this summer? ---> Steve Kyler: hefty, hearing Utah could go hard at him. Twitter @stevekylerNBA
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I was thinking about him earlier but he had some issues with Carlisle at the end of the year. Looks like he might be best coming off the bench on a good team. Offensively he could really thrive in the Jazz offense though. He's got the right skill set. Certainly a huge upgrade on Foye but at what price? Could he guard ones with Hayward as the point forward? Maybe not the best ones.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]I was thinking about him earlier but he had some issues with Carlisle at the end of the year. Looks like he might be best coming off the bench on a good team. Offensively he could really thrive in the Jazz offense though. He's got the right skill set. Certainly a huge upgrade on Foye but at what price? Could he guard ones with Hayward as the point forward? Maybe not the best ones.[/QUOTE]
Yea, cost is my biggest issue with him. Don't think he's worth more than $8 million a year, so i'd hate to see them give him a huge contract.
Although the fact that they're looking at guys at that price would probably indicate that at least 1 of Jefferson and Millsap won't be back.
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Yea, cost is my biggest issue with him. Don't think he's worth more than $8 million a year, so i'd hate to see them give him a huge contract.[/quote]
I'm guessing hefty is more like 10-12 mill.
[quote]Although the fact that they're looking at guys at that price would probably indicate that at least 1 of Jefferson and Millsap won't be back.[/QUOTE]
One of them has to go. There is absolutely no way they can bring both back based on minutes besides having the money to pay Favors and Hayward next year and Kanter and Burks in 2 years.
Mo and Foye's contracts could pay for Mayo though. Whatever they do I'd look to front load as much of it as possible or they could have issues in the next couple years paying the kids.