Kobe Bryant wants old-school D back..

[QUOTE=plowking]Stayed in proportion with his total shot attempts. In his second season he shot 12 shots a game, 3 of them being 3's, so at 24 shots a game like his 02-03 season, it would have equalled 6 threes attempted per game, where as in 02-03 he only attempted 4 per game.
After that season, they generally stayed in proportion with the total shots taken.[/QUOTE]


Do you even believe what you post? :lol


Kobe had four years where he played with Shaq and shot over 46 percent and a bit under 47 percent.. I expect these are the years you are speaking about...


In 1999 Kobe took 2 threes out of 15.6 shots
In 2000 Kobe took 2.2 threes out of 17.9,
In 2001 Kobe took 2.9 threes of 22.2 shots,
In 2002 Kobe took 1.6 threes of his 20 shots.

After the no touch rules


In 05 5.9 of 20.1 of his shots were three pointers.
In 06 6.5 of his 27.2 shots were threes,
In 07 5.2 of his 22.8 shots were threes
In 08 5.1 of his 20.6 shots were threes
In 09 4.1 of his 20.9 shots were threes

if they implemented the old rules, all these stars today would not be stars. They would not get those typical star treatment calls that we get today when lebron or kobe or wade simply look at the ref and a foul is called. Kobe needs to stfu and realize that he has a good thing going. Jordan played in an era where he had teams like the heat and knicks kicking his ass on every possesion. Guys like barkley, drexler, oakley, johnson would slap around their players in the paint. They had dominant big centers that controlled teh flow of the game. Now we have bynum, bargnani. jeez. just stfu kobe and realize you ahve a good thing going.

The best players will always be the best players. Rules don't matter they will adapt to any rules the league puts out. Kobe, Lebron and Wade would still bet the best players.

[QUOTE=samballs]The best players will always be the best players. Rules don't matter they will adapt to any rules the league puts out. Kobe, Lebron and Wade would still bet the best players.[/QUOTE]


This is true..

Anyone who believes Kobe should read "DEATH OF DEFENSE"

Scoring exploded the moment the NBA implemented the new rules in 04-05. The league average in 03-04 was 93.4 ppg. 97.2 ppg in 04-05. A jump of 4 ppg in 1 season. Mind boggling. And that number kept rising each season. 99 ppg in 06-07. 100 ppg in 07-08 and the league's maintained that average till date(2 1/2 seasons). The last time the league scored that much was 94-95. 16 seasons!

Anyone who thinks any current player will actually get better statistically under the 'Old Rules' is out of his mind. Their effectiveness relative to the league will remain the same, but their numbers will go down.

[quote=sensational]if they implemented the old rules, all these stars today would not be stars. They would not get those typical star treatment calls that we get today when lebron or kobe or wade simply look at the ref and a foul is called. Kobe needs to stfu and realize that he has a good thing going. Jordan played in an era where he had teams like the heat and knicks kicking his ass on every possesion. Guys like barkley, drexler, oakley, johnson would slap around their players in the paint. They had dominant big centers that controlled teh flow of the game. Now we have bynum, bargnani. jeez. just stfu kobe and realize you ahve a good thing going.[/quote]This may be true for soft players that could not make the transition, but for guys that play hard and tough now, they would be just fine.

[QUOTE=vert48]This may be true for soft players that could not make the transition, but for guys that play hard and tough now, they would be just fine.[/QUOTE]


No doubt Kobe, Lebron and Wade would still be the best players..

[QUOTE=plowking]LOL at all these people saying Kobe would be affected more by these rules as they would be more physical. Let me explain something to you posters who obviously haven't got tonnes and tonnes of tapes lying around of the games back then. [B]It's called a hand "check", thus meaning check. Not hand restraint, punch, claw, super shield, ultimate wall, just a check[/B]. Players were not allowed to impede a players motion in any which direction they chose to go. They were only allowed to sense body movement and have a better perception of which way the body was going. Remember now, hand "check".[/QUOTE]
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that was amazing.... i loled so hard.... you are my idol #54564568798796.

I completely agree with your point, hand check is overrated, Kobe would wreak havoc on the one on one defenses.

Also people forget about Bryant amazing post game, Kobe would have better post up opportunities against those Defenses. Nowadays every time he ventures into the post he gets swarmed by multiple defenders.

[QUOTE=plowking]LOL at all these people saying Kobe would be affected more by these rules as they would be more physical. Let me explain something to you posters who obviously haven't got tonnes and tonnes of tapes lying around of the games back then. It's called a hand "check", thus meaning check. Not hand restraint, punch, claw, super shield, ultimate wall, just a check. Players were not allowed to impede a players motion in any which direction they chose to go. They were only allowed to sense body movement and have a better perception of which way the body was going. Remember now, hand "check".[/QUOTE]


Still the hand check on the perimeter and the arm bar in the post is a BIG helper.

You know they get away with a few little pushes and what not.....

[QUOTE=Indian guy]Scoring exploded the moment the NBA implemented the new rules in 04-05. The league average in 03-04 was 93.4 ppg. 97.2 ppg in 04-05. A jump of 4 ppg in 1 season. Mind boggling. And that number kept rising each season. 99 ppg in 06-07. 100 ppg in 07-08 and the league's maintained that average till date(2 1/2 seasons). The last time the league scored that much was 94-95. 16 seasons!

Anyone who thinks any current player will actually get better statistically under the 'Old Rules' is out of his mind. Their effectiveness relative to the league will remain the same, but their numbers will go down.[/QUOTE]

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Now I don't have to say it.

Kobe's pretty whiny as it is I remember seeing him jawing at the official an flailing his arms begging for calls while the other team jets to the offensive end.

If they go back to Old School rules that means hard fouls, hand checks, arm bars in the post, and no zones.

A lot of soft jump-shooters would become less effective and instead of coveting shooting specialists scouts would look for athletes/defenders more often.

Can you guys even imagine Brandon Jennings playing with the old rules? I mean, game over. Throw in the towel before the game even starts.

Melo would dominate under these circumstances.

[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]Can you guys even imagine Brandon Jennings playing with the old rules? I mean, game over. Throw in the towel before the game even starts.[/QUOTE]


What would he shoot? 25 percent

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]Do you even believe what you post? :lol


Kobe had four years where he played with Shaq and shot over 46 percent and a bit under 47 percent.. I expect these are the years you are speaking about...


In 1999 Kobe took 2 threes out of 15.6 shots
In 2000 Kobe took 2.2 threes out of 17.9,
In 2001 Kobe took 2.9 threes of 22.2 shots,
In 2002 Kobe took 1.6 threes of his 20 shots.

After the no touch rules


In 05 5.9 of 20.1 of his shots were three pointers.
In 06 6.5 of his 27.2 shots were threes,
In 07 5.2 of his 22.8 shots were threes
In 08 5.1 of his 20.6 shots were threes
In 09 4.1 of his 20.9 shots were threes[/QUOTE]

Do you know why Kobe started take more perimeter shots? It's harder to score inside under the new rules. Zones which are allowed now force outside shots, hence why his outside shots did increase slightly for some seasons in proportion to his total shots. For some they did as I showed earlier in his career.

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]What would he shoot? 25 percent[/QUOTE]

104 percent.