Kobe #17
Lebron #19
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Kobe #17
Lebron #19
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]Kobe #17
Lebron #19
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Maybe that was his sister or cousin in Colorado ...
I just don't get it honestly.
I mean LeBron is top twenty, for sure ...
But two spots down from Bryant?
Really?
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]You don't take exception with Oscar being in the top ten?[/QUOTE]
I don't because he views him like LeBron - a stat-padding junkie. I should have added his bias for LeBron, but that goes hand in hand with his distaste for Bryant.
[QUOTE=catch24]I don't because he views him like LeBron - a stat-padding junkie.[/QUOTE]
Good point. haha
You think if that were the case though, he'd have Pippen way higher too.
Hell, I could see much more of a case for Lebron being over Oscar than Oscar being top 10.
[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Hell, I could see much more of a case for Lebron being over Oscar than Oscar being top 10.[/QUOTE]
Uh, me too.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Maybe that was his sister or cousin in Colorado ...
I just don't get it honestly.
I mean LeBron is top twenty, for sure ...
But two spots down from Bryant?
Really?
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There is absolutely no evidence that would put Lebron anywhere near Kobe in terms of career accomplishments. Lebron just isn't even close.
Jason Kidd at #44 is also incredibly stupid. He is a top 25 player at worse.
[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Hell, I could see much more of a case for Lebron being over Oscar than Oscar being top 10.[/QUOTE]
where do you have Jerry West then?
Blitz is like Patton Oswalt in the movie Big Fan.
[QUOTE=magnax1]where do you have Jerry West then?[/QUOTE]
Somewhere in the top 11-15 range. Probably 12. I might put Mikan 11 ignoring the fact that I doubt he could compete in later eras and just including him because his play vs his peers would make him top 10 and how much he changed the game.
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You think if that were the case though, he'd have Pippen way higher too.[/QUOTE]
You consider Pipp a stat buffer?
[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Somewhere in the top 11-15 range. Probably 12. I might put Mikan 11 ignoring the fact that I doubt he could compete in later eras and just including him because his play vs his peers would make him top 10 and how much he changed the game.[/QUOTE]
Well I just wondered because everything I've read said Oscar was pretty consistently better in their best years, and statistically it's true too. So I don't really get why you think it's so terrible to have Oscar borderline top 10.
Of course I've only watched like 3 games of oscar, so it's not really a fair assessment.
[QUOTE=catch24]You consider Pipp a stat buffer?[/QUOTE]
No, but he filled a lot of stat columns. I legit believe LeBron is a fluffer of his stats. Oscar probably was too. He wasn't a winner, either.
[QUOTE=magnax1]Well I just wondered because everything I've read said Oscar was pretty consistently better in their best years, and statistically it's true too. So I don't really get why you think it's so terrible to have Oscar borderline top 10.
Of course I've only watched like 3 games of oscar, so it's not really a fair assessment.[/QUOTE]
Because he never won till he piggy backed Lou Alcindor
[QUOTE=magnax1]Well I just wondered because everything I've read said Oscar was pretty consistently better in their best years, and statistically it's true too. So I don't really get why you think it's so terrible to have Oscar borderline top 10.
Of course I've only watched like 3 games of oscar, so it's not really a fair assessment.[/QUOTE]
Oscar won a total of 2 playoff series when he was the man, I believe and thats around a decade...with just 2 playoff series wins.
West was at least contending every year, won a title as arguably the best player(or certainly closer to Wilt than Oscar was to Kareem), would have won in '69 had Wilt and Baylor showed up at all, and this is legit considering West won finals MVP on the losing team in a close 7 game series.