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LeBron James right now is the best player of all time
That's right I just said it.
LeBron generation kids rejoice.
There is no other player ever that has the same physical skill set this man posses. I also think he has grown up and mature in the last couple of years.
Now he probably will not have a better career then Mike or even Kobe...but LeBron James is just a better all around player then those two.
Only place where he may lack is in the post and lock down defense.
But his passing ability...brute force and speed is untouchable.
So I stand by this when I say right now...LeBron is the greatest player to ever play in the NBA.
I think when all is said and done he will have at least 6 MVP's and 3 to 4 titles.
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In my mind, Lebron would only need one more ring to be better all time than Kobe.
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[QUOTE=Connor B]In my mind, Lebron would only need one more ring to be better all time than Kobe.[/QUOTE]
No
career wise he would need at least 3.
He got Kobe on regular season MVP's but titles are what shape somebody's career at the end.
And Jordan going 6 for 6 is untouchable for LeBron.
Again Career wise.
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based on what? He's never had a season better than Jordan's best. (pick one from 89-93) and he will not be close in terms of achievements. Right now he is not playing at a higher level than Jordan did at his best. So please elaborate on your stupid ass opinion.
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still needs to make me forget about the 2011 choke before I consider him
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Oh my, this gon' be good...
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You're an idiot, no one cares.
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some1 inform crisoner his acct has been hijacked please, nothing to see here folks, move along...
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no stat padding choking clown can be the goat. stop.
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LOL @ this. If OKC won the title last year, he wouldn't Ben be considered the best player in the league, Durant would be.
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[QUOTE=red1]still needs to make me forget about the 2011 choke before I consider him[/QUOTE]
probably doesn't matter what some clown out in Toronto thinks.
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[QUOTE=28renyoy]LOL @ this. If OKC won the title last year, he wouldn't Ben be considered the best player in the league, Durant would be.[/QUOTE]
and?
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[QUOTE=28renyoy]LOL @ this. If OKC won the title last year, he wouldn't Ben be considered the best player in the league, Durant would be.[/QUOTE]
You need to get over the fact that Durant aint winning s.hit unless LeBron dies
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]You need to get over the fact that Durant aint winning s.hit unless LeBron dies[/QUOTE]
Since when is LeBron some winner whos gonna steal all the ships from guys? :roll: :roll:
He FINALLY won a ring after consecutive years of utter failure? The only reason the guy cares about championships is because of the media and all the pressure put on him. He wants to "fit in" with guys like Kobe and MJ and be considered a "winner" Difference is... winning is in MJ and Kobe's blood... only reason LBJ gives a **** about winning now is because of the media/fan pressure. He wants to be liked and fit in. Dude aint a natural killer. He's just as manufactured as Justin Bieber. You really think LeBron has it in him to sustain that incredible drive he had? Its a once in a life time motivation, he will never reach that again. And to barely scrape by against the Pacers and Celtics and beat an inexperienced/over matched Thunder makes this dude the greatest thing since sliced bread? :biggums:
**** outta here.
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MJ the best, Lebron or Magic most talanted and versatile ever. Bias or not, that's what experts(not haters and fanboys) say all the time.
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these are the type of threads that send posters to the OTC
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[QUOTE=Budadiiii]Since when is LeBron some winner whos gonna steal all the ships from guys? :roll: :roll:
He FINALLY won a ring after consecutive years of utter failure? The only reason the guy cares about championships is because of the media and all the pressure put on him. He wants to "fit in" with guys like Kobe and MJ and be considered a "winner" Difference is... winning is in MJ and Kobe's blood... only reason LBJ gives a **** about winning now is because of the media/fan pressure. He wants to be liked and fit in. Dude aint a natural killer. He's just as manufactured as Justin Bieber. You really think LeBron has it in him to sustain that incredible drive he had? Its a once in a life time motivation, he will never reach that again. And to barely scrape by against the Pacers and Celtics and beat an inexperienced/over matched Thunder makes this dude the greatest thing since sliced bread? :biggums:
**** outta here.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, ok? Having a meltdown or what? Lebron has been to the finals 3 times and got 1 ring at 27. You can't seriously expect championships right and left from the Cavs days with that roster. He has had an amazing career so far, don't know what more you can expect.
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[QUOTE=Budadiiii]Since when is LeBron some winner whos gonna steal all the ships from guys? :roll: :roll:
He FINALLY won a ring after consecutive years of utter failure? The only reason the guy cares about championships is because of the media and all the pressure put on him. He wants to "fit in" with guys like Kobe and MJ and be considered a "winner" Difference is... winning is in MJ and Kobe's blood... only reason LBJ gives a **** about winning now is because of the media/fan pressure. He wants to be liked and fit in. Dude aint a natural killer. He's just as manufactured as Justin Bieber. You really think LeBron has it in him to sustain that incredible drive he had? Its a once in a life time motivation, he will never reach that again. And to barely scrape by against the Pacers and Celtics and [B]beat an inexperienced/over matched Thunder[/B] makes this dude the greatest thing since sliced bread? :biggums:
**** outta here.[/QUOTE]
Get the f.uck out of here with that excuse, f,aggot. OKC had HCA and were in the WCF the season before. They got their s.hit pushed in but a Heat team with 2/3 of its best players hurt. Hicktown aint winning a damn thing
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]probably doesn't matter what some clown out in Toronto thinks.[/QUOTE]
your mother is a slut
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Get the f.uck out of here with that excuse, f,aggot. OKC had HCA and were in the WCF the season before. They got their s.hit pushed in but a Heat team with 2/3 of its best players hurt. Hicktown aint winning a damn thing[/QUOTE]
Just like the Heat had HCA when LeBron put on the biggest choking barrage in sports history.
Dude was biting his fingernails on the sideline and looked like he was terrified. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't go away. It never will. The championship took off the pressure only momentarily. He has to do it again. And then again. He just doesn't have that in him. He got incredibly motivated for one season and put his demons aside temporarily. It will all come back full force this year. Sorry but 1 isn't good enough, and the moment that hits him, is the moment he folds just like we all witnessed not too long ago. The guy is a born quitter.
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Depends if you judge players by stats or watching them and their presence on the court. Some people judge by stats, some by rings, or whatever else.
LeBron is up there.
But it's impossible to compare eras.
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The OP is pretty much correct. I realize one's PER isn't everything, but Lebrons has been close to or over 30 for the past 6 years or so. Other than MJ, no one has come close to that in recent memory on such a consistent basis.
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[QUOTE=Budadiiii]Just like the Heat had HCA when LeBron put on the biggest choking barrage in sports history.
Dude was biting his fingernails on the sideline and looked like he was terrified. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't go away. It never will. The championship took off the pressure only momentarily. He has to do it again. And then again. He just doesn't have that in him. He got incredibly motivated for one season and put his demons aside temporarily. It will all come back full force this year. Sorry but 1 isn't good enough, and the moment that hits him, is the moment he folds just like we all witnessed not too long ago. The guy is a born quitter.[/QUOTE]
Well OKC sure as hell wasn't Dallas, because LeBron went in without lube. :oldlol: While your team's best player was crying on his mother's should like a little b.itch
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He's certainly better than Kobe has ever been. Kobe ranks higher because of his career achievements, but in terms of level of play LeBron has it by a fairly decent margin.
I'd probably say LeBron hasn't quite reached the heights of the better MJ seasons. He's in the ballpark though.
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Well OKC sure as hell wasn't Dallas, because LeBron went in without lube. :oldlol: While your team's best player was crying on his mother's should like a little b.itch[/QUOTE]
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:bowdown: KING James
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His rank all time is rising, but he will never be considered better than Michael Jordan. He can overtake Kobe, but at this moment kobe is greater all time. He can't overtake Jordan for a number of reasons
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If we are talking career, not even close yet.
If we are talking about peak, then there are still several. LeBron's peak right now though may be the best since Shaq's. There is more of a debate between peak LeBron and peak Kobe IMO, but Shaq's peak is clearly better than both of those to me.
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[QUOTE=Budadiiii]Just like the Heat had HCA when LeBron put on the biggest choking barrage in sports history.
[B]Dude was biting his fingernails on the sideline and looked like he was terrified. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't go away. It never will.[/B] The championship took off the pressure only momentarily. He has to do it again. And then again. He just doesn't have that in him. He got incredibly motivated for one season and put his demons aside temporarily. It will all come back full force this year. Sorry but 1 isn't good enough, and the moment that hits him, is the moment he folds just like we all witnessed not too long ago. The guy is a born quitter.[/QUOTE]
Bron has been obsessively biting his nails since he got into the league. I made this thread back in 2008 >>>> [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108516[/url]
[Quote=2LeTTeRS][B]Why has LeBron still not learned to stop biting his nails on he bench?[/B]
I swear every game the camera zooms to him sitting on the bench and you see him munching away on his nails. With how image conscious he supposedly is you would think somebody would tell him to cut that out. That really doesn't go along with the image they're trying to build of him.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]Bron has been obsessively biting his nails since he got into the league. I made this thread back in 2008 >>>> [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108516[/url][/QUOTE]
And...... your point? It obviously stems from being nervous, which is why he's a choker in the first place.
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Lebron with Jordan's mentality would have been up there for the debate.
What does "best player of all time" even mean? There were amazing players in the history of the league. Guess if i had to name one it would have to be Jordan cause he changed Basketball. He made it an awesome sport for people who wren't fans before.
I've never seen a more dominant player than prime Shaq. He was like a videogame character noone could defend. The NBA had to change rules because of him.
The players i respect the most are the overachievers. That's Kobe and Wade for me. I know their fanbases would never agree on anything but these 2 guys are amazing. They achieved all they have achieved because of their winning mentality and hard work and no matter what team you root for you have to appreciate what they've done in their career.
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Lebron is clearly better than God.
Whenever he dunks, a universe is created.
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I basically feel he can't overtake MJ no matter what because he can never have that unblemished finals record. But if he surpasses or equals MJ in both MVPs (5) and rings (6), then it's a viable conversation. Call me if Lebron has 4 rings and we'll see what the chances are.
Edit - one other point. Think about the careers of Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, just to name a few. I honestly think if Lebron played in MJs time he would have suffered the same fate, by virtue of mental toughness alone. I don't think Lebron is mentally soft (anymore), but MJ would have protracted Lebron's early struggles and used it to destroy him.
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[QUOTE=Mrofir]I basically feel he can't overtake MJ no matter what because he can never have that unblemished finals record. But if he surpasses or equals MJ in both MVPs (5) and rings (6), then it's a viable conversation. Call me if Lebron has 4 rings and we'll see what the chances are.
Edit - one other point. Think about the careers of Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, just to name a few. I honestly think if Lebron played in MJs time he would have suffered the same fate, by virtue of mental toughness alone. I don't think Lebron is mentally soft (anymore), but MJ would have protracted Lebron's early struggles and used it to destroy him.[/QUOTE]
pretty much this...yes
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[QUOTE=Mrofir]I basically feel he can't overtake MJ no matter what because [B]he can never have that unblemished finals record[/B]. But if he surpasses or equals MJ in both MVPs (5) and rings (6), then it's a viable conversation. Call me if Lebron has 4 rings and we'll see what the chances are.
Edit - one other point. Think about the careers of Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, just to name a few. I honestly think if Lebron played in MJs time he would have suffered the same fate, by virtue of mental toughness alone. I don't think Lebron is mentally soft (anymore), but MJ would have protracted Lebron's early struggles and used it to destroy him.[/QUOTE]
There are 100 valid reasons why LeBron will never catch MJ. This is not one of them. It is better to have taken a team to the Finals than to have lost in the first round. Its a nonsensical argument. If a player can't even get his team into the playoffs its better than another player taking his team to the Finals and losing??