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Chris Paul is starting to test my patience
Okay so.... you guys know I've defended him to a fault. Even prior to him being on the Clippers I loved his game and defended him from people underrating him. That being said what we've seen from him this season is completely unacceptable.
Chris Paul should be BETTER this year with more weapons around him and an offseason with the team. Yet he is worse in every way, literally. Blake has his own problems but in Blake's defense he's barely starting his third season and hasn't had good coaching or big men mentors.
I know Blake is still inexperienced and raw. Chris on the other hand doesn't have that excuse. In his 7th season now, extremely cerebral and intelligent player yet continues to make poor decisions. Somehow came into the season out of shape despite being in impeccable shape just a month or two earlier.
I never thought I'd mention low IQ in a sentence with CP3 but the last few games he's made multiple low IQ plays that had me yelling at the TV "WTF are you doing!?".
Every player is allowed to have bad games but to have relatively low impact in 12 games now? I feel like Bledsoe has a larger positive impact on the team 75 percent of this season so far. Superstars and top 5 players shouldn't be pulling this kind of crap.
Lazy defense, more turnovers than usual, poor shooting compared to last year, looks slow as sh** on offense and can't hit shots. I feel like his idea of creating shots this year is bowling into players and getting called for a charge.
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Do you think it has to do with the new flopping rules? I mean flopping was part of the game and if you make it illegal, certain players won't have that edge to change the pace of the game or momentum.
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early in the season dude, let the best PG find the groove
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]Do you think it has to do with the new flopping rules? I mean flopping was part of the game and if you make it illegal, certain players won't have that edge to change the pace of the game or momentum.[/QUOTE]
:lol
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]Do you think it has to do with the new flopping rules? I mean flopping was part of the game and if you make it illegal, certain players won't have that edge to change the pace of the game or momentum.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it was a part of it... but flopping doesn't make him play like a scattered idiot who doesn't know when to take a shot. I mean the dude has like 5 24 second shot clock violations this year. SHOOT THE FU**ING BALL!
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Maybe it was a part of it... but flopping doesn't make him play like a scattered idiot who doesn't know when to take a shot. I mean the dude has like 5 24 second shot clock violations this year. SHOOT THE FU**ING BALL![/QUOTE]
gotta protect that fg%, that's the mandate brah
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He hasn't been the same since that knee injury. Stil great, but not the same. His peak was 2008.
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I think he has the perfect team built for him. Shooters surrounding the perimeter, and big men who can catch lobs and finish around the paint. It's pretty much on him. My main issue with him is that he's way too passive. Dude literally can take over a game whenever he wants to (outside of the OKC game).
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]Do you think it has to do with the new flopping rules? I mean flopping was part of the game and if you make it illegal, certain players won't have that edge to change the pace of the game or momentum.[/QUOTE]
:lol
That's pretty funny.
As to OP,
Chris Paul will be fine. He is just going through a rough stretch. Deron Williams is too and I am fumigating and ranting on his twitter page. ( Which is why he blocked me) but superstars will break out of their funks. Blake Griffin is the real concern. With his physique he shouldn't be attempting jump shots, he should man his way to the basket, get decent post moves and be a interior force. He's still young but the Clippers need him badly.
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[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]:lol
That's pretty funny.
As to OP,
Chris Paul will be fine. He is just going through a rough stretch. [B]Deron Williams is too and I am fumigating and ranting on his twitter page. ( Which is why he blocked me)[/B] but superstars will break out of their funks. Blake Griffin is the real concern. With his physique he shouldn't be attempting jump shots, he should man his way to the basket, get decent post moves and be a interior force. He's still young but the Clippers need him badly.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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CP3 kind of started out slow last year as well.
they had the tough ass 5 game schedule and he averaged like 30/10
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Maybe it was a part of it... but flopping doesn't make him play like a scattered idiot who doesn't know when to take a shot. I mean the dude has like 5 24 second shot clock violations this year. SHOOT THE FU**ING BALL![/QUOTE]
He seems so passive. There were multiple possessions late in the 4th where I thought he should have looked to score.
The fouls (and turnovers to some degree) were what really frustrated me though. Some were deserving, others :biggums:
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[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]:lol
That's pretty funny.
As to OP,
Chris Paul will be fine. He is just going through a rough stretch. Deron Williams is too and[B] I am fumigating and ranting on his twitter page. ( Which is why he blocked me)[/B] but superstars will break out of their funks. Blake Griffin is the real concern. With his physique he shouldn't be attempting jump shots, he should man his way to the basket, get decent post moves and be a interior force. He's still young but the Clippers need him badly.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: thanks for making me laugh :cheers: . I understand bad games etc... but this is all year long passive play and subpar play. He's getting torched by players like Steve Blake for Christ's sake. As for Blake it's funny because people criticized the shit out of him for no shot.. and now he goes the Amare route and stops dunking, becomes a shooter primarily and improved defender and people rip him.
I think that shows he cares way too much what people think and needs to nut the fu** up. Great players play to their strengths, not give in to pressure from the outside world. Blake as I said though isn't being helped by CP3 or Vinny and is still just a 3rd year player this year, so while I'll readily criticize his play... more of the responsibility is on CP3.
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why are you making this thread today on the night he faced his kryptonite
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[QUOTE=Pacers4ever]why are you making this thread today on the night he faced his kryptonite[/QUOTE]
Explain his other 8 or so bad games this year? Dude has had literally like 3 good games this year. NOT OKAY.
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He has been far too passive he really needs to look for his shot more. 15PPG is not good enough really for a player of his quailty.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]He seems so passive. There were multiple possessions late in the 4th where I thought he should have looked to score.
The fouls (and turnovers to some degree) were what really frustrated me though. Some were deserving, others :biggums:[/QUOTE]
He has to play more legit and quit being passive. Last season, he was very aggressive in offense and drawing fouls or flops. Paul had a knack or his flops usually got the defender in foul trouble, therefore, they would play him loose. He would eat them up.
This year with the new rule, his defenders are hardly in foul trouble and can play him much more aggressive which causes Paul to be much more passive as he's indecisive where he usually gets bailed out with a flop.
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How would you feel if the clips let Paul walk and signed on Bledsoe as starting point guard? It might also put the clips financially better off too
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Unfortunately for CP3 he's got to face Jeff Teague tomorrow.
Teague brought Kemba's hot streak to a halt and handed out 12 dimes w/ 13 points in 29 minutes. Hopefully Larry Drew will actually play him more than 30 minutes.
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lakers will take him
u can have pau
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[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]lakers will take him
u can have pau[/QUOTE]
Nah can't
BASKETBALL REASONS.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy][B]He seems so passive[/B]. There were multiple possessions late in the 4th where I thought he should have looked to score.
The fouls (and turnovers to some degree) were what really frustrated me though. Some were deserving, others :biggums:[/QUOTE]
i feel that way a little bit.
he feels that he can turn it up whenever he wants. It didnt work that way in that OKC game where they could have won if Chris Paul would have starting looking to score at the beginning
Jamal Crawford is a great scorer but i dont think he should be their leading scorer if they wanna win a championship which i do think they have the capability of doing. It should be Blake or Chris Paul.
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I believe Griffin needs to get better if the team wants to go far. While he has improved on his jumper, he should have more of an impact and he needs the ball during the 4th quarter. He is raw, but can still get points.
But CP3 will eventually be alright. He has been passive lately, but that's always been a bit of knock on him except in the 4th quarter.
CP3 could bounce back though. We'll see. Last year, it seemed like he can turn his offense on anytime he wants to. This year, not as much. But I have a feeling he'll get to that level again. He did it this season, but he is having a bad stretch atm.
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[QUOTE=PyrrhusX]How would you feel if the clips let Paul walk and signed on Bledsoe as starting point guard? It might also put the clips financially better off too[/QUOTE]
Honestly... I wouldn't be upset if Bledsoe got a 5 year deal for half the price, CP3 walked and Clippers used the 15+ mill they can clear for a top tier SG and or SF. Manu, Mayo, Ellis, Iggy, Pierce, AK47 and many others that could be available depending on how player/team options shake out.
Bledsoe+Ellis+Pierce+Griffin+DJ for example would be pretty sick. If you're wondering, YES the Clippers will have the cap for that. Lots of stuff like Odom's 8 mill coming off the books this summer plus CP3 walking would clear up 18+ mill obviously.
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I would trade you him for deron in a second.
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Also CP3 deferring to Jamal so much in 4th quarters this year is WTF worthy in itself. Sure Jamal is deadly and clutch but this is freaking CP3 we are talking about. It's almost like him and Blake are scared of the 4th quarter this year.
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Russell Westbrook and a draft pick for Chris Paul. Lets get this done. Imagine WB and Griffin on a fast break... The most athletic team of all-time, easily.
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In today's game he made horrible decisions down to stretch, pretty unusual for what I saw of him before.
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[QUOTE=Segatti]In today's game he made horrible decisions down to stretch, pretty unusual for what I saw of him before.[/QUOTE]
It's been that way in every loss pretty much and even in the wins he struggled at times in the clutch. How do you go from most clutch player in NBA last year to being a choke when you have more talent to work with? It's so freaking ridiculous.
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[QUOTE=Fudge]Russell Westbrook and a draft pick for Chris Paul. Lets get this done. Imagine WB and Griffin on a fast break... The most athletic team of all-time, easily.[/QUOTE]
I'd do it for sure. Because I know that when Griffin gets all passive... Westbrook will have no problem being THE guy and jacking up 30 shots. He may not take them but at least he won't back down from it.
Westbrook and Rondo are two PG's I'd take right now for CP3 straight up. I think both might be a better fit for the team for different reasons. Westbrook because he would be fearless go to player who has clutch game as well and stay aggressive every time down the floor. Rondo because he would make Blake explode as the 1st option and get the 3 point shooters better looks.
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Luckily the west is so wide open I'm sure when it matters Paul will be back to his best.
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He has to adjust to not being able to flop and flail around on every other play.
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You homos were all over CP3s junk three days ago after the Spurs game.
Choose whether or not you're gonna suck his dick or not.
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Totally agree. CP3 needs to be aggressive and continuously look for his shot. However, he still needs to be able to manage this team and get players open looks. With the supporting cast he has and a great front court, dude should be averaging 20/10 no problem.
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He's gotten a little chunky and lazy. I'm not really joking either. Guy's not in very good shape.
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Yea. CP3's second straight game playing like sh!t. What a scrub. /sarcasm
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CP3 and Blake for Nash and Gasol.. Do it Mitch..
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OP is probably a fatass that never played in a rec league much less a school or pro team which is why he freaks out so much over his unrealistic expectations.
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[QUOTE=Go Getter]OP is probably a fatass that never played in a rec league much less a school or pro team which is why he freaks out so much over his unrealistic expectations.[/QUOTE]
What's unrealistic about expecting a superstar to perform like one? LOL at you still being angry at me about your sensitive racism card and personally attacking me.
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I hope they trade him just so i can laugh when Bledsoe starts running around putting up 10pts on 4/17, 7 rebs, 2 blocks, 3 steals and 11 turnovers a game. But at least he's aggressive and and gets some cool blocks right?
Im not sure how much a player like CP3 really gives a rats about regular season, so long as they make playoffs its all good. You know your gonna get close to a triple double during the playoffs.
The regular season is for blokes like Blake Griffin to find some game, soon as his brain can make a decision to score or pass in less than 8 seconds they'll be fine.
Yeah we all know CP3 can score whenever he wants, but he's done that before. 2 seasons of 22/12/5/2 (rough) has proven that. Regular season is for the other guys to step up and find their spots and learn how they can step up if/when needed come playoffs. Tim Duncan has pretty much done it the past 5 years (not so much currently). He sleepwalks through the regular season.
You say CP3 is hampering Blakes development... have CP3 take an extra 10 shots per game and then see how Blake develops.
Stop being a spoilt bi*@h. you've got the best pg in the game, he makes others better. Its not his fault Blake thinks the basket is gonna bite him. Go back and watch the game from OKC or tonight and count how many time BG gets an open look in rhythm only to get all confused and brick it or pass out.
Yes i agree CP3 could score more, but he's not gonna carry the team all season. An extra 5 shots per game from CP3 isnt going to help.