Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=ProfessorMurder]- Duncan won 2 MVPs during Shaq's prime. Shaq has one.
- They both have 4 championships and 3 FMVPs.
- They both have similar career averages.
- They're 15-15 against each other in the playoffs.
- Duncan is a 14 time all star, 10 all nba 1st team, 3 all nba 2nd team, 1 all nba 3rd team... With 8 all nba defense 1st team, 6 all nba defense 2nd team, and an all rookie 1st team selection.
- Shaq is a 15 time all star, 8 all nba 1st team, 2 all nba 2nd team, 4 all nba 3rd team... With 3 all nba defense 2nd team, and an all rookie 1st team selection.
That's the definition of arguable.[/QUOTE]
Derrick Rose has an MVP. Was he the best player in the game?
Nash has 2 MVPs. Was he the best player in the game?
Dirk has an MVP. Was he the best player in the game?
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Derrick Rose has an MVP. Was he the best player in the game?
Nash has 2 MVPs. Was he the best player in the game?
Dirk has an MVP. Was he the best player in the game?[/QUOTE]
You forgot to mention Duncan played and dominated both ends of the floor compared to Shaq's one.
Using your logic, Wilt is better than MJ since he was more dominant in a shorter period of time.
Duncan's longevity, versatility, career accomplishments and consistency>Shaq's dominance over couple years on one end.
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Graviton]You forgot to mention Duncan played and dominated both ends of the floor compared to Shaq's one.
Using your logic, Wilt is better than MJ since he was more dominant in a shorter period of time.
Duncan's longevity, versatility, career accomplishments and consistency>Shaq's dominance over couple years on one end.[/QUOTE]
Wilt definitely has a claim as the GOAT. You'd be a fool to say otherwise.
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Wilt definitely has a claim as the GOAT. You'd be a fool to say otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Ok. :oldlol:
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Duncan was never the best player in the NBA. [/QUOTE]
2003-2007, tell me who was the best player in the league in each of those years.
Before you put words in my mouth, I'm not saying he was in all of them or even some.
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Graviton]Ok. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
No player in any other sport had the statistical dominance that Wilt had. Not even Gretzky nor Ruth.
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[QUOTE=JimmyMcAdocious]2003-2007, tell me who was the best player in the league in each of those years.
Before you put words in my mouth, I'm not saying he was in all of them or even some.[/QUOTE]
Kobe and Shaq were both always better than Duncan.
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=JimmyMcAdocious]2003-2007, tell me who was the best player in the league in each of those years.
Before you put words in my mouth, I'm not saying he was in all of them or even some.[/QUOTE]
2003= Duncan
2004 = Garnett
2005 = Shaq
2006 = Kobe
2007 = Kobe
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Kobe and Shaq were both always better than Duncan.[/QUOTE]
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Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
if duncan gets #5 hes the GOAT period. fukk MJ... that ni66a couldnt win 5 in the modern era.
tim duncan won 5 rings in the most DIFFICULT CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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For me, it does move him ahead of Shaq on my all-time list. I still beleive Shaq had a superior prime, but you cannot discount longevity and success on a GOAT list.
Kareem
MJ
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
Kobe
I could even see an argument for him moving as high as #5 GOAT. Some people will say that him winning a chip this year doesn't mean as much, but let's not act like Duncan is some roleplayer. He's still the heart of the team, playing at an elite level, and was arguably the DPOY. I've been really blown away by his production all season. Reminds me of Kareem, who was also still making All-NBA teams in his late 30's.
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^lmao bird only has 3 rings WTF would he be above duncan^
and wilt over duncan? dont be childish
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=unbreakable]if duncan gets #5 hes the GOAT period. fukk MJ... that ni66a couldnt win 5 in the modern era.
tim duncan won 5 rings in the most DIFFICULT CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
So the GOAT never even won a back to back title? Ok. :rolleyes:
Re: If Duncan gets that 5th ring....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]So the GOAT never even won a back to back title? Ok. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
i like how you dont deny anything i say about MJ .. proves my point :cheers:
nice avatar by the way LMAO
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdsKp94Io0[/url]
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