bird is closer to mike then bran
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bird is closer to mike then bran
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Bird had heart.
Bird wasn't a flopper.
Bird wasn't full of excuses.
I'd take Bird all day every day.
[QUOTE=And1AllDay;14405757]bird is closer to mike then bran
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You are right as Bird is higher on the all time list than Lebron.
[QUOTE=3ball;14347883]Like I said, the debate should be between MJ, Bird, and Durant - elite jumpshooters that ELEVATED teammates - teammates played great alongside them and improved during their tenure.
Otoh, lebron's skill restriction to ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping)
Everyone complained about Lebron's cast for 2 decades, even his hand-picked casts[/QUOTE]
Literally almost every single teammate of LeBron saw career highs in efficiency. Not to mention the fact that playing with LeBron got them max contracts. Not mid level exceptions of other shit. MAX contracts. Meanwhile, Pip got hosed, like most other Ordan teammates.
Not to mention the fact that a ton of 1-9 teammates had better stats WITHOUT him.
This all pales in comparison to the FACT the 1-9 never had a winning record, let alone a good record, without Pip.
LeBron James. Better playoffs finals and regular season performer. Bird owned Jordan, but give lebron the same supporting casts as him. And he would also win some rings in the 1980's.
Most consider Bird the greatest SF ever and he did it for the franchise that drafted him. Lebron had to leave to win.
Bird with the current Lakers would be the top seed.