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it's not no metrics
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it's not no metrics
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14856643]best defender in the league on the best defensive team in the league while also being one of the elite rebounders. More than half the game. I realize it's the part of the game that doesn't matter to most[/QUOTE]
Wolves dRTG
with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
[url]https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612750&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=203497&OnlyCommonGames=true[/url]
Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.
[QUOTE=iamgine;14856455]In order:
1. Jokic
2. Embiid
3. Sengun
4. Porzingis
5. Sabonis
6. Holmgren
7. Adebayo
8. Davis[/QUOTE]
Jokic and Embiid are 1 and 2.
Stfu, jordansbulls. You total dickwad.
[QUOTE=hold this L;14856807]Wolves dRTG
with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
[url]https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612750&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=203497&OnlyCommonGames=true[/url]
Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=hold this L;14856807]Wolves dRTG
with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
[url]https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612750&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=203497&OnlyCommonGames=true[/url]
Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14856728]Defensive rating [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2024_leaders.html"]NBA[/URL] 103.2 (1st)
Defensive win shares [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2024_leaders.html"]2023-24 NBA[/URL] 1.1 (2nd)
while anchoring the best D in the league[/QUOTE]
I recognize you're the Colin Robinson energy vampire of ISH. Not taking the bait anymore.
[QUOTE=hold this L;14856807]Wolves dRTG
with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
[url]https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612750&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=203497&OnlyCommonGames=true[/url]
Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.[/QUOTE]
Poor Xiao :lol
[QUOTE=iamgine;14856455]In order:
1. Jokic
2. Embiid
3. Sengun
4. Porzingis
5. Sabonis
6. Holmgren
7. Adebayo
8. Davis[/QUOTE]
Holy crap that's super-weak - most of those guys would be SF or PF in previous eras.. what a spaced-out, hands-off, beginner format of shrimps..
Jordan would literally average 50... not 40... FIFTY.. He used to dunk on Alonzo but now he gets to dunk on skinny shrimp Holmgren?... wow... no hand-checking and no rim protection?... FIFTY
[QUOTE=3ba11;14856922]Holy crap that's super-weak - most of those guys would be SF or PF in previous eras.. what a spaced-out, hands-off, beginner format of shrimps..
Jordan would literally average 50... not 40... FIFTY.. He used to dunk on Alonzo but now he gets to dunk on skinny shrimp Holmgren?... wow... no hand-checking and no rim protection?... FIFTY[/QUOTE]
MJ would be Marcus Smart today.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14856897]Poor Xiao :lol[/QUOTE]
Of course there are extenuating circumstances with the way the lineups are structured. There is no way they’re truly better off defensively without him.
But you do love to see it :lol
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14856990]Of course there are extenuating circumstances with the way the lineups are structured. There is no way they’re truly better off defensively without him.
But you do love to see it :lol[/QUOTE]
They stagger the lineups so he's with Conley and Ant is with Towns. Also a smaller sample size of minutes he's not on the floor than off but don't try to make sense of it. The trolls have a tough enough time.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14856922]Holy crap that's super-weak - most of those guys would be SF or PF in previous eras.. what a spaced-out, hands-off, beginner format of shrimps..
Jordan would literally average 50... not 40... FIFTY.. He used to dunk on Alonzo but now he gets to dunk on skinny shrimp Holmgren?... wow... no hand-checking and no rim protection?... FIFTY[/QUOTE]
Which guys would be SF or PF in previous eras? The physicality aspect is valid, but players are not smaller today. They’re actually bigger.
Sabonis is the exact same size as Mourning. Adebayo is an inch shorter but almost 20 pounds heavier.
Jokic and Embiid are considerably heavier than any great big in previous eras outside of Shaq.
Sengun is the same size as Patrick Ewing.
Etc.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14856997]Which guys would be SF or PF in previous eras? The physicality aspect is valid, but players are not smaller today. They’re actually bigger.
Sabonis is the exact same size as Mourning. Adebayo is an inch shorter but almost 20 pounds heavier.
Jokic and Embiid are considerably heavier than any great big in previous eras outside of Shaq.
Sengun is the same size as Patrick Ewing.
Etc.[/QUOTE]
Sabonis has dino arms while Mourning had elite length. Sabonis would be a 4 but I could certainly see him as a 3 with his skill. Bam similar.