Remember when Reggie Miller won MVP over Jordan and even Jimmy Jackson got more votes than him.
Yeah... me neither.
Hell of an era we're witnessing. :roll:
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Remember when Reggie Miller won MVP over Jordan and even Jimmy Jackson got more votes than him.
Yeah... me neither.
Hell of an era we're witnessing. :roll:
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]true... getting injured at the worst possible time.
Love, Jr out for 2, Shump, KI.[/QUOTE]
What's the matter with Shump AW?
[QUOTE=FatComputerNerd]Shame that the Bulls are finally at full strength only to be playing a hobbled Cavs team with one of our big 3 missing and another apparently playing hurt.
As a fan of the game I like to see Rose healthy and playing well, but life as a Cleveland sports fan really sucks sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget how much Andy V could help us in this series.
You forgot that Lebron is playing like an absolute idiot, he has cost the Cavs game 1 and 3.
MJ 2/5?:biggums:
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]I don't think any players of his era would be calling MJ "a bitch" multiple times to his face, or the opposing team's rookies in a playoff series being so confident to say there is no one on the other side of the ball that frightens them.
As Kobe described, the league was so shook by Jordan's dominance, skill, athleticism, game, trash talk, look and temperment ... that his teammates, presumably Eddie Jones was urging young Kobe
TO NOT EVEN LOOK HIM IN THE EYE
Meanwhile guys routinely clown LeBron for his uncompetitive, BETA status. No knock on his abilities, he's top ten. But given his cowardly nature, and lack of swagger, cool factor and certainly not his intimidation game ... contemporaries just aren't frightened by him.
Being the MJ of your era isn't exclusively related to on court dominance. It was his swagger, style, innate gravitas for the moment, and the level of fear he instilled in opponents.
And even then, LeBron while mighty impressive, doesn't even have the on court individual dominance, or success through leadership in winning that Jordan experienced.
Even if ranked as underdogs in the '93 ECF, and '93 Finals ... Jordan just absolutely never failed to deliver. LeBron overall has met hype, but has failed to meet expectations a number of times. MJ always over delivered.[/QUOTE]
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I don't think any players of his era would be calling MJ "a bitch" multiple times to his face, or the opposing team's rookies in a playoff series being so confident to say there is no one on the other side of the ball that frightens them.
The repercussions they would surely face would never allow them to say that and unlike James, Mike's contemporaries respected him. He wasn't a coward, trying to stack the deck.
As Kobe described, the league was so shook by Jordan's dominance, skill, athleticism, game, trash talk, look and temperment ... that his teammates, presumably Eddie Jones was urging young Kobe
TO NOT EVEN LOOK HIM IN THE EYE
Meanwhile guys routinely clown LeBron for his uncompetitive, BETA status. No knock on his abilities, he's top ten. But given his cowardly nature, and lack of swagger, cool factor and certainly not his intimidation game ... contemporaries just aren't frightened by him.
Being the MJ of your era isn't exclusively related to on court dominance. It was his swagger, style, innate gravitas for the moment, and the level of fear he instilled in opponents.
And even then, LeBron while mighty impressive, doesn't even have the on court individual dominance, or success through leadership in winning that Jordan experienced.
Even if ranked as underdogs in the '93 ECF, and '93 Finals ... Jordan just absolutely never failed to deliver. LeBron overall has met hype, but has failed to meet expectations a number of times. MJ always over delivered.
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]I don't think any players of his era would be calling MJ "a bitch" multiple times to his face, or the opposing team's rookies in a playoff series being so confident to say there is no one on the other side of the ball that frightens them.
The repercussions they would surely face would never allow them to say that and unlike James, Mike's contemporaries respected him. He wasn't a coward, trying to stack the deck.
As Kobe described, the league was so shook by Jordan's dominance, skill, athleticism, game, trash talk, look and temperment ... that his teammates, presumably Eddie Jones was urging young Kobe
TO NOT EVEN LOOK HIM IN THE EYE
Meanwhile guys routinely clown LeBron for his uncompetitive, BETA status. No knock on his abilities, he's top ten. But given his cowardly nature, and lack of swagger, cool factor and certainly not his intimidation game ... contemporaries just aren't frightened by him.
Being the MJ of your era isn't exclusively related to on court dominance. It was his swagger, style, innate gravitas for the moment, and the level of fear he instilled in opponents.
And even then, LeBron while mighty impressive, doesn't even have the on court individual dominance, or success through leadership in winning that Jordan experienced.
Even if ranked as underdogs in the '93 ECF, and '93 Finals ... Jordan just absolutely never failed to deliver. LeBron overall has met hype, but has failed to meet expectations a number of times. MJ always over delivered.[/QUOTE]
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Yeah, let's not take the guys word that has actually played against LeBron and is in the NBA...
Taj making me proud to be a bulls fan since 1999.
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]I don't think any players of his era would be calling MJ "a bitch" multiple times to his face, or the opposing team's rookies in a playoff series being so confident to say there is no one on the other side of the ball that frightens them.
The repercussions they would surely face would never allow them to say that and unlike James, Mike's contemporaries respected him. He wasn't a coward, trying to stack the deck.
As Kobe described, the league was so shook by Jordan's dominance, skill, athleticism, game, trash talk, look and temperment ... that his teammates, presumably Eddie Jones was urging young Kobe
TO NOT EVEN LOOK HIM IN THE EYE
Meanwhile guys routinely clown LeBron for his uncompetitive, BETA status. No knock on his abilities, he's top ten. But given his cowardly nature, and lack of swagger, cool factor and certainly not his intimidation game ... contemporaries just aren't frightened by him.
Being the MJ of your era isn't exclusively related to on court dominance. It was his swagger, style, innate gravitas for the moment, and the level of fear he instilled in opponents.
And even then, LeBron while mighty impressive, doesn't even have the on court individual dominance, or success through leadership in winning that Jordan experienced.
Even if ranked as underdogs in the '93 ECF, and '93 Finals ... Jordan just absolutely never failed to deliver. LeBron overall has met hype, but has failed to meet expectations a number of times. MJ always over delivered.[/QUOTE]
There's actually quite a bit of truth to your diatribe. I think most people would agree that if Lebron had the cold blooded ferocity of an MJ or even a Pierce that he could have been the greatest ever. He's still an unbelievable athlete who will go down as 'one' of the best. But there's just something lacking intrinsically with the guy. A mean streak perhaps...
[QUOTE=Done_And_Done]There's actually quite a bit of truth to your diatribe. I think most people would agree that if Lebron had the cold blooded ferocity of an MJ or even a Pierce that he could have been the greatest ever. He's still an unbelievable athlete who will go down as 'one' of the best. But there's just something lacking intrinsically with the guy. A mean streak perhaps...[/QUOTE]
I wasn't bashing LeBron. Just telling the truth. I freely admit he's top ten, and most likely the best player overall since Mike.
Yes, better than Kobe, Duncan, and Shaq.
Jordan, and lesser extent Kobe played with chips on their shoulder with something to prove. Guys like Shaq, or Wilt, or LeBron ... so inherently gifted that things came easy to them so they had nothing to prove.
That is the difference ultimately between the fear of failure, and the thirst to win. The latter for people who don't get shook by the moment.
Yea well as far as being the best, most competitive, productive, dominant etc. But differently, different games....
Who else? Curry?
[QUOTE=pauk]Yea well as far as being the best,[B] most competitive[/B], productive, dominant etc. But differently, different games....
Who else? Curry?[/QUOTE]
:biggums: :biggums:
[QUOTE=pauk]Yea well as far as being the best, most competitive, productive, dominant etc. But differently, different games....
Who else? Curry?[/QUOTE]
Did u just say most competitive with lebron? :roll: :roll: reference: the decision