Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]
[B][COLOR="blue"]Nothing that could have happened in Miami[/COLOR][/B] would make LeBron better at basketball than Michael Jordan including the great many things that could have happened to make them win a couple more series.
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Except him being a better basketball player so they go 4/4 instead of 1*/4.. :confusedshrug:
Unfortunately, his style and skills proved NOT to be good enough -
i.e. his lack of off-ball game held down Bosh and prevented good chemistry with Wade in 2011 - furthermore, lebron [I]remained[/I] mostly a ball-dominator, so these teamwork issues never fully fixed themselves and culminated in the old Spurs surpassing their brand of ball in 14'..
So that's 2 losses that great non-ball-dominators like Kawhi, Durant, Kobe would win and be 4/4 (as anyone would expect of a Wade/Bosh Big 3.. i.e. "not 6, not 7")
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Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855][B]Nothing that could have happened in Miami[/B] would make LeBron better at basketball than Michael Jordan including the great many things that could have happened to make them win a couple more series.[/QUOTE]
Not being a mental midget in 11? Not being a Ball dominator, instead showing solid off-ball adaptation? The dude literally had an 8 pt game in the Finals, wasn't injured, and was being guarded by J.J ****ing Barea... even the smallest of tweaks in his mental approach would have yielded better results considering how well Wade was balling those series. It's not like the Mavs were blowing them out.
There is a lot of the mental aspect of the game, and the way Bran sees the game that adversely affected his success. The "analysts" that continually praise his mind do a disservice to the sheep....but that's part and parcel with their job description.
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=Manny98]LeBron went to 8 straight finals
Why does Jordan and Kobe get a pass for only 3 straight :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
They didn't go to their Finals just to high five the other team.
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
Beating the Mavs does not make Lebron better than Jordan nor does beating the spurs twice instead of once.
We just can’t stop talking shit about things that don’t matter as much as basketball playing ability. Michael Jordan was better at basketball than LeBron James was regardless of the many things that can win or lose you a series. Lebron with 4 rings or 7 is not better than Jordan.
He might well win another ring. He’s not getting better at basketball.
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]
[B][COLOR="Blue"]Beating the Mavs does not make Lebron better than Jordan nor does beating the spurs twice instead of once.[/COLOR][/B]
We just can
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=3ball]
Also, if a team can't beat the other conference in the Finals, that means they can't make it out of that conference and their Finals appearance was conference-dependant.. Lebron can rarely beat the West, thus proving his Finals appearances depend on him being in the East - he'd have 3 Finals appearances in the West - that's why Finals record matters
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Amongst all the stupidity you've already poured into this thread, I believe this shit hypothetical stands head and shoulders above the rest as the shittiest.
If someone was in the opposite conference, the "harder" conference, chances are they'd have a much better team from the "better" conference dont ya think? Commons sense for $500 Alex.......
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
Looks to me like someone's absolutely bursting at the seams, barely coping to contain himself, making a molehill out of someone making statements to illustrate a point....
:mad:
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=3ball]Even though going 4/4 doesn't make Lebron better than Jordan (because Jordan and others would do the same), NOT going 4/4 as mj and others would makes lebron inferior to them[/QUOTE]
LeBron is inferior to Jordan because his considerably less polished offense makes him less reliable score at the same time his size and lack of aggression prevents him from being as active and engaged on the defensive end man to man. He helps to make up for it by being the perfect size to be versatile in this era of positionless basketball but overall? Worse on both ends. His advantage in play making doesn
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]Amongst all the stupidity you've already poured into this thread, I believe this shit hypothetical stands head and shoulders above the rest as the shittiest.
[B][COLOR="DarkRed"]If someone was in the opposite conference, the "harder" conference, chances are they'd have a much better team from the "better" conference[/COLOR][/B] dont ya think? Commons sense for $500 Alex.......[/QUOTE]
No. Lebron had the league's only super-team from 2011-2014, or at least 1 of 2 teams with the Spurs (who were fossils, so not really a super-team)
Yet despite having the only super-team (or 1 of 2), he only went 2/4 in Miami.... so only 2 Finals appearances if he was in the West
In Cleveland, he had 1 of 2 super-teams (Cavs/warriors) and the highest payroll ever... Yet only 1/4, so only 1 Finals appearance out West...
That's 3 total appearances if he was in the West.. that's why Finals record matters
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=3ball]No. Lebron had the league's only super-team from 2011-2014, or at least 1 of 2 teams with the Spurs (who were fossils, so not really a super-team)
Yet despite having the only super-team (or 1 of 2), he only went 2/4 in Miami.... so only 2 Finals appearances if he was in the West
In Cleveland, he had 1 of 2 super-teams (Cavs/warriors) and the highest payroll ever... Yet only 1/4, so only 1 Finals appearance out West...
That's 3 total appearances if he was in the West.. that's why Finals record matters[/QUOTE]
Why even pretend the '15 or '18 Cavs are a superteam :oldlol: Hell, calling the '14 Heat one is a joke too
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=3ball]No. Lebron had the league's only super-team from 2011-2014, or at least 1 of 2 teams with the Spurs (who were fossils, so not really a super-team)
Yet despite having the only super-team (or 1 of 2), he only went 2/4 in Miami.... so only 2 Finals appearances if he was in the West
In Cleveland, he had 1 of 2 super-teams (Cavs/warriors) and the highest payroll ever... Yet only 1/4, so only 1 Finals appearance out West...
That's 3 total appearances if he was in the West.. that's why Finals record matters[/QUOTE]
Since when did Miami or Cleveland play in the west?
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]Since when did Miami or Cleveland play in the west?[/QUOTE]
If you can't beat the West's best, you wouldn't make it [I]out[/I] of the West
It's intuitive, but keep playing dumb
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Beating the Mavs does not make Lebron better than Jordan nor does beating the spurs twice instead of once.
We just can
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
[QUOTE=3ball]No. Lebron had the league's only super-team from 2011-2014, or at least 1 of 2 teams with the Spurs (who were fossils, so not really a super-team)
Yet despite having the only super-team (or 1 of 2), he only went 2/4 in Miami.... so only 2 Finals appearances if he was in the West
In Cleveland, he had 1 of 2 super-teams (Cavs/warriors) and the highest payroll ever... Yet only 1/4, so only 1 Finals appearance out West...
That's 3 total appearances if he was in the West.. that's why Finals record matters[/QUOTE]
At most he's taking 1 ring out of 3 appearances. Bran needed a few Finals under his belt to actually understand what it took to win. If you shorten those opportunities in the West... he's bound to win even less - contrary to what a Western champion usually does... which is win more than they lose vs. the East.
Re: Both Kobe and Jordan 3-peated. Why we giving Bran a pass?
Dicksuphisholer still desperately trying to give Kobe credit for Shaq’s accomplishments.