Lebron is the best player of the 2020's so far

[StrongLurk]

Well, besides Jokic of course. It's hilarious seeing the Kobe stans try to claim that Lebron's Lakers tenure has been a "disappointment", yet he has done as good as anybody during his tenure. Keep in mind, we are talking about old Lebron here. Lebron has been out of his prime since the Solomon Hill injury in 2021.Let's see a breakdown of the 2020's.

Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 1 assist champ


Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 3 MVPs


Giannis: 1 ring/FMVP, one ECF appearance, 5x ALL-NBA


Curry:1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance, 3x ALL-NBA, 1 scoring champ


Honorable mention to Luka. Can't put EmFraud on here by the way.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's crazy how KD & Kawhi aren't even choices for the top 5 of this, I doubt anyone would have believed that back in 2019.

[Naero]

You have to count Giannis's 2020 MVP and DPoY, too, not to mention his All-Defensive Team selections. With probably the best Finals performance of the '20s so far to boot, I don't see how he isn't one of the two greatest players of the decade alongside Jokic at this point in time.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Jayson Tatum has almost as many AllNBA teams and three of his are over James. Also has a ring. And 4 conference Finals. I would point out the flaws with this system but it gives an argument for Tatum being #1 so I'm all for it.

[StrongLurk]

Jayson Tatum has almost as many AllNBA teams and three of his are over James. Also has a ring. And 4 conference Finals. I would point out the flaws with this system but it gives an argument for Tatum being #1 so I'm all for it.

A FMVP is needed, so that is why I left Tatum off. He can be an honorable mention with Luka.

[StrongLurk]

You have to count Giannis's 2020 MVP and DPoY, too, not to mention his All-Defensive Team selections. With probably the best Finals performance of the '20s so far to boot, I don't see how he isn't one of the two greatest players of the decade alongside Jokic at this point in time.

Ah I meant to include Giannis' MVP.

I don't include defensive awards because, let's be real, they are totally based on reputation/narratives. They are basically meaningless. But Giannis definitely has an argument for number 2 of the decade.

[SATAN]

Honorable mention to Luka.

Why?

[Real Men Wear Green]

A FMVP is needed, so that is why I left Tatum off. He can be an honorable mention with Luka.

Cedric Maxwell once won finals MVP over Larry Bird. How important is that when people talk about Bird? Whatever though it's your rubric do what you want.

[BallsOut]

Well, besides Jokic of course. It's hilarious seeing the Kobe stans try to claim that Lebron's Lakers tenure has been a "disappointment", yet he has done as good as anybody during his tenure. Keep in mind, we are talking about old Lebron here. Lebron has been out of his prime since the Solomon Hill injury in 2021.Let's see a breakdown of the 2020's.

Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 1 assist champ


Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 3 MVPs


Giannis: 1 ring/FMVP, one ECF appearance, 5x ALL-NBA


Curry:1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance, 3x ALL-NBA, 1 scoring champ


Honorable mention to Luka. Can't put EmFraud on here by the way.

Dumbass thinks 1 assist champ is worth more than 3 MVPs

Get LeBron’s jizz out your mouth.

[SouBeachTalents]

Dumbass thinks 1 assist champ is worth more than 3 MVPs

Get LeBron’s jizz out your mouth.
Never.

[Axe]

What about those who still don't think that the bubble ring is real or legit? :ohwell:

[gengiskhan]

What about those who still don't think that the bubble ring is real or legit? :ohwell:

Ethered

BUBBLE ring :roll:

tagging along NBAs Best Big Man in AD. :facepalm

Does these guys really think BUBBLE ring is even real.

more or less, an ALT of Play-in Banner, LeDrug Dealer is collecting. :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Jayson Tatum has almost as many AllNBA teams and three of his are over James. Also has a ring. And 4 conference Finals. I would point out the flaws with this system but it gives an argument for Tatum being #1 so I'm all for it.

Yeah man, Jayson ****ing Tatum is the best player in the world this decade.

[StrongLurk]

Dumbass thinks 1 assist champ is worth more than 3 MVPs

Get LeBron’s jizz out your mouth.

Lol did you read my post? I literally said Jokic is the best player of the 2020's...

The point is that OLD/Non-PRIME Lebron's resume is still amongst the best over the last 5 seasons.

[1987_Lakers]

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Luka
4. Embiid
5. LeBron

[Neal Romer]

Well, besides Jokic of course. It's hilarious seeing the Kobe stans try to claim that Lebron's Lakers tenure has been a "disappointment", yet he has done as good as anybody during his tenure. Keep in mind, we are talking about old Lebron here. Lebron has been out of his prime since the Solomon Hill injury in 2021.Let's see a breakdown of the 2020's.

Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 1 assist champ


Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 3 MVPs


Giannis: 1 ring/FMVP, one ECF appearance, 5x ALL-NBA


Curry:1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance, 3x ALL-NBA, 1 scoring champ


Honorable mention to Luka. Can't put EmFraud on here by the way.


Youre forgetting his IST MVP.

IMO that secures him at the top and makes it not even close.

[StrongLurk]

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Luka
4. Embiid
5. LeBron

Embiid hasn't done ANYTHING noteworthy in the playoffs. Playoff success is heavily weighted in determining best players and Embiid's level of play massively decreases in the postseason. Embiid is on pace to be the biggest choker of all time out of any player who has ever won an MVP. Also Lebron/Curry > Luka so far when factoring in accomplishments.

Old Lebron playoffs (2020-2024)

25.9 PER, 61.5 TS%, .204 WS/48, 9.4 BPM, 1 ring, 1 FMVP

Prime Embiid playoffs (2020-2024).

23 PER, 59.6 TS%, .148 WS/48, 4.3 BPM, hasn't made it past 2nd round.

[theman93]

Not even close. He’s been 3rd team All-NBA the majority of the decade, and has either outright missed the playoffs completely or been eliminated in the first round 4 out of the 5 seasons this decade so far.

[SouBeachTalents]

Not even close. He’s been 3rd team All-NBA the majority of the decade, and has either outright missed the playoffs completely or been eliminated in the first round 4 out of the 5 seasons this decade so far.
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The past 5 years the Lakers have won a championship and made the conference finals.

Between this and not knowing Vogel's been fired, you honestly just don't seem to know modern ball :lol

[1987_Lakers]

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The past 5 years the Lakers have won a championship and made the conference finals.

Between this and not knowing Vogel's been fired, you honestly just don't seem to know modern ball :lol

:oldlol:

[theman93]

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The past 5 years the Lakers have won a championship and made the conference finals.

Between this and not knowing Vogel's been fired, you honestly just don't seem to know modern ball :lol

Ooooo wow typed 3 instead of 4. Big whoop. He got destroyed again like he typically does in '23 by the actual best player of the decade.

[StrongLurk]

Ooooo wow typed 3 instead of 4. Big whoop. He got destroyed again like he typically does in '23 by the actual best player of the decade.

Who out West has done better than old Bron in the 2020s? I mean, this is literally OLD, out of prime Bron, oldest player in the fukin league :lol

Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances

Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances

Curry:1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance

Luka: No rings/no FMVP/1 final appearance, two WCF appearances.

[3ba11]

Well, besides Jokic of course. It's hilarious seeing the Kobe stans try to claim that Lebron's Lakers tenure has been a "disappointment", yet he has done as good as anybody during his tenure. Keep in mind, we are talking about old Lebron here. Lebron has been out of his prime since the Solomon Hill injury in 2021.Let's see a breakdown of the 2020's.

Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 1 assist champ


Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA, 3 MVPs


Giannis: 1 ring/FMVP, one ECF appearance, 5x ALL-NBA


Curry:1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance, 3x ALL-NBA, 1 scoring champ


Honorable mention to Luka. Can't put EmFraud on here by the way.


All the guys you mentioned had normal casts of 1 franchise player, while Lebron obtained better casts by getting a 2nd franchise player in AD, who led in scoring for their title run, so Lebron was 2nd option, while curry/giannis/jokic were 1st option and led their team in scoring

So Lebron is always stacking the deck but still has the highest losing frequency

[SouBeachTalents]

All the guys you mentioned had normal casts of 1 franchise player, while Lebron obtained better casts by getting a 2nd franchise player in AD, who led in scoring for their title run, so Lebron was 2nd option, while curry/giannis/jokic were 1st option and led their team in scoring

So Lebron is always stacking the deck but still has the highest losing frequency
But Jordan had the league rigging awards for him by distorting his home stock stats by a historic margin.

[theman93]

Who out West has done better than old Bron in the 2020s? I mean, this is literally OLD, out of prime Bron, oldest player in the fukin league :lol

Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances

Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances

Curry:1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance

Luka: No rings/no FMVP/1 final appearance, two WCF appearances.

You said Lebron is the best player in the LEAGUE this decade. Why are you moving the goalpost to the West? :roll:

[FKAri]

I think the best way to look at this would be: If right now you could have a 5 year rental of ANY player from the start of 2020, who would it be?
I'm pretty sure Jokic and Giannis both come up before Bron.

[3ba11]

But Jordan had the league rigging awards for him by distorting his home stock stats by a historic margin.


Lebron's blocks were juiced 110% at home in 2004, while his assists were juiced 50% in 2008, while his steals were juiced 67% in 2021... Both Lebron and AD's steals were by 62% and 55%, respectively, in 2022.

Of course Jaren jackson was incredibly juiced in 2023...

These are all one-offs, just like 88' Jordan, or 90' Hakeem, or 86' Robertson

It's a bs article that you fell for... Sometimes guys have stuff going on and they play different on the home/road but it's a one-off for that sesaon... Of course previous eras did have some normal inflation due to poor road records compared to today's teams and their cushy road trips/vacations.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron's blocks were juiced 110% at home in 2004, while his assists were juiced 50% in 2008, while his steals were juiced 67% in 2021... Both Lebron and AD's steals were by 62% and 55%, respectively, in 2022.

Of course Jaren jackson was incredibly juiced in 2023...

These are all one-offs, just like 88' Jordan, or 90' Hakeem, or 86' Robertson

It's a bs article that you fell for... Sometimes guys have stuff going on and they play different on the home/road but it's a one-off for that sesaon... Of course previous eras did have some normal inflation due to poor road records compared to today's teams and their cushy road trips/vacations.
1-9.

[3ba11]

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Luka
4. Embiid
5. LeBron



2020 Regular Season

Davis............. 26.1 ppg
Lebron........... 25.3 ppg


2020 Playoffs

Davis............. 27.7 ppg
Lebron........... 27.6 ppg


^^^ Lebron was 2nd option and was carried against the real competition in the playoffs (Jokic).

Since AD transformed a lottery team to ahampion, while being 1st option and statistical leader of the team, he's been better than Lebron in the 2020's.. He's carried the Lakers since he arrived in 2020.

[gengiskhan]

2020 Regular Season

Davis............. 26.1 ppg
Lebron........... 25.3 ppg


2020 Playoffs

Davis............. 27.7 ppg
Lebron........... 27.6 ppg


^^^ Lebron was 2nd option and was carried against the real competition in the playoffs (Jokic).

Since AD transformed a lottery team to ahampion, while being 1st option and statistical leader of the team, he's been better than Lebron in the 2020's.. He's carried the Lakers since he arrived in 2020.

what do you expect form LeDrugAddict.

He too busy making those quick Miami trips.

[SouBeachTalents]

A .1 ppg difference means you got "carried". Absolute moron :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yeah man, Jayson ****ing Tatum is the best player in the world this decade.
If we're just talking this decade his case is better than James'. Jayson ****ing Tatum is three times first team All-NBA over James, has a ring just like James, has won more both playoffs as well as regular season and has missed far less games.

[sdot_thadon]

A .1 ppg difference means you got "carried". Absolute moron :lol

That Kobe logic.

[3ba11]

A .1 ppg difference means you got "carried". Absolute moron :lol


Curry, Giannis, and Jokic were clear-cut 1st options that often carried the scoring load for their team, while Lebron was usually 2nd option to AD on that title run and that season.

So no, Lebron is just misperceived and misreported by the media as a 1st option when he hasn't been a clear-cut 1st option for a while now and AD has been leading the way ever since he arrived.. You Bron fans and media have literally be drugged or something.

[SouBeachTalents]

Curry, Giannis, and Jokic were clear-cut 1st options that often carried the scoring load for their team, while Lebron was usually 2nd option to AD on that title run and that season.

So no, Lebron is just misperceived and misreported by the media as a 1st option when he hasn't been a clear-cut 1st option for a while now and AD has been leading the way ever since he arrived.. You Bron fans and media have literally be drugged or something.
LeBron has literally led the Lakers in scoring by a clear margin for 4 straight years, it's wild how little you know about what you're talking about :lol And he's done this being 8 years older and in his mid-late 30's.

Thank god you can cling for dear life to AD leading LeBron by literally 2 whole points in that 2020 title run, that eased the pain of him doubling up Kobe in FMVP's.

[StrongLurk]

You said Lebron is the best player in the LEAGUE this decade. Why are you moving the goalpost to the West? :roll:

No, I said he's been the best besides Jokic. And I simply include the West for you because you claimed the Lakers had not done well in the playoffs. Now you know they have done just as well as anybody, same for old Lebron.

[StrongLurk]

Seriously, it's always so easy slapping Kobe stans with doses of reality when it comes to Lebron. They still HATE that Lebron won a ring/FMVP on the Lakers just a few months after Kobe's tragic death. It's literally one of the most legendary things ever done in sports. Kobe's on the court rival but off-court friend literally won his beloved franchise a ring right after his accident.

Quick review of the 2020's below (FMVP MANDATORY).

OLD ass Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA

Peak Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA,

Peak Giannis: 1 ring/FMVP, one ECF appearance, 5x ALL-NBA

Prime Curry: 1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance, 3x ALL-NBA

Prime Jaylen Brown: 1 ring/FMVP, four ECF appearances, 1x ALL-NBA

[SouBeachTalents]

Seriously, it's always so easy slapping Kobe stans with doses of reality when it comes to Lebron. They still HATE that Lebron won a ring/FMVP on the Lakers just a few months after Kobe's tragic death. It's literally one of the most legendary things ever done in sports. Kobe's on the court rival but off-court friend literally won his beloved franchise a ring right after his accident.

Quick review of the 2020's below (FMVP MANDATORY).

OLD ass Lebron: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA

Peak Jokic: 1 ring/FMVP, two WCF appearances, 5x ALL-NBA,

Peak Giannis: 1 ring/FMVP, one ECF appearance, 5x ALL-NBA

Prime Curry: 1 ring/FMVP, one WCF appearance, 3x ALL-NBA

Prime Jaylen Brown: 1 ring/FMVP, four ECF appearances, 1x ALL-NBA
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[3ba11]

Lebron won as 2nd option in 2020 so his ring doesn't compare to Giannis, Curry or Jokic

[StrongLurk]

Lebron won as 2nd option in 2020 so his ring doesn't compare to Giannis, Curry or Jokic

You are SO MAD :roll:. Cry more please I love it.

[tpols]

This is such a super weak, cringey click bait thread...

"Lebron is the best player of the decade!"

"Except this guy Jokic has completely dominated him."

:facepalm :lol

It's like the fine print they say in the last 2 seconds of a commercial after pitching the other 95% enthusiatically.

[StrongLurk]

This is such a super weak, cringey click bait thread...

"Lebron is the best player of the decade!"
"Except this guy Jokic has completely dominated him."

:facepalm :lol

It's like the fine print they say in the last 2 seconds of a commercial after pitching the other 95% enthusiatically.

That's how you get more people to go through your threads. Very normal stuff. The content is what matters though. It shows that OLD Lebron has indeed not been a disappointment, and the Lakers certainly haven't either this decade. The Kobe stans (fake Lakers fans) desperately want Lebron gone and it's just funny to see them act like Lebron's ruined the franchise when in fact he REVIVED it.

[3ba11]

That's how you get more people to go through your threads. Very normal stuff. The content is what matters though. It shows that OLD Lebron has indeed not been a disappointment, and the Lakers certainly haven't either this decade. The Kobe stans (fake Lakers fans) desperately want Lebron gone and it's just funny to see them act like Lebron's ruined the franchise when in fact he REVIVED it.


anyone else like Luka, Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, SGA, more - would win multiple titles with this Laker roster.

Only Lebron's need to show that he can still get his stats has slowed this team down from it's full potential.

He expends the team's offense to get his stats and Ric Bucher was right - he needs to hunt mismatches and play bully-ball to score - that's extremely cumbersome and shuts everyone else out.. Cowherd agreed.

[StrongLurk]

anyone else like Luka, Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, SGA, more - would win multiple titles with this Laker roster.

Only Lebron's need to show that he can still get his stats has slowed this team down from it's full potential.

He expends the team's offense to get his stats and Ric Bucher was right - he needs to hunt mismatches and play bully-ball to score - that's extremely cumbersome and shuts everyone else out.. Cowherd agreed.

Please, give me more of your tears. I love it. Keep em' coming!