The championship level is DIFFERENT - it matters what happens on this top level

[3ba11]

So if you produce teams that can't compete on the championship level and have a lottery record on the championship level, then you aren't that good

If you needed 2 franchise player teammates (super-team) to win as 1st option and sidekicks that made the Finals without you, then you aren't that good.

Carry on but unfolding events will continue to support my claims and add to the historical record of which I speak.. Luka is a Lebron-style ball-dominator, so he will get annihilated on the championship level like Lebron.

History shows that Bron-ball is the only losing brand over a meaningful sample in the Finals, aka only Lebron or his teammates have a losing record in the Finals over a meaningful sample size of 4+ finals.. (modern era)

[AirBonner]

Tatum and Brown are both winning a chip at a younger age than MJ’s first chip

[GimmeThat]

OP on a leash and isn't allowed to purchase any food

[3ba11]

Tatum and Brown are both winning a chip at a younger age than MJ’s first chip


How low a caliber of player must win at a younger age then MJ before you realize that it means nothing?

[Axe]

Kyrie is a bum, cannot win anything without lebron.

[3ba11]

Kyrie is a bum, cannot win anything without lebron.


Doesn't matter because he made Finals without Lebron, so that's objectively better than Pippen

For Lebron to win as 1st option, he needed 2 perennial all-star teammates and sidekicks that made the Finals without him (Wade, Kyrie)

Again, this is objectively more help than MJ (2 star teammates and sidekicks that made Finals)

Carry on

[Axe]

Speaking of making the finals, he immediately went back the following year without him as kyrie was traded to boston bt. And he has six more without him compared to kyrie's one vice versa. :kobe:

[NBAGOAT]

Dallas not championship lvl because they’re starting a guy on a minimum deal and two guys making 30 mil combined have done nothing

[3ba11]

Speaking of making the finals, he immediately went back the following year without him as kyrie was traded to boston bt. And he has six more without him compared to kyrie's one vice versa. :kobe:


By 2018, Lebron had a 3-time conference champion of battle-tested championship veterans versus baby teams with zero experience like Oladipo and Al Horford-led celtics - completely unfair and it's because Lebron's collusions battered and diluted the conference down to mush by 2018.. Instead of facing Wade, Kyrie and Bosh, lebron faced Oladipo, Horford and Rose - this kind of dilution is the definition of manufacturing a Finals run.

Lebron had the only perennial all-star sidekick in the conference in 2018, while Kyrie played 12 of 14 games in the 15' East playoffs, so the only time that Lebron took a 1-star team to the Finals was when everyone was doing it (Iverson, Dwight, kidd)

[GimmeThat]

By 2018, Lebron had a 3-time conference champion of battle-tested championship veterans versus baby teams with zero experience like Oladipo and Al Horford-led celtics - completely unfair and it's because Lebron's collusions battered and diluted the conference down to mush by 2018.. Instead of facing Wade, Kyrie and Bosh, lebron faced Oladipo, Horford and Rose - this kind of dilution is the definition of manufacturing a Finals run.

Lebron had the only perennial all-star sidekick in the conference in 2018, while Kyrie played 12 of 14 games in the 15' East playoffs, so the only time that Lebron took a 1-star team to the Finals was when everyone was doing it (Iverson, Dwight, kidd)

water isnt thicker than blood

[Axe]

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Oh look, another moving of the goal posts was made. :applause: