Caitlin Clark left off of Olympic roster

[Hey Yo]

Dumb decision or no big deal??

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1799446726585262464?t=d1SuUzHJbdxAOlAbTYdxiQ&s=19

[Wardell Curry]

She's the biggest thing to happen to women's basketball since ever. I don't care about women's basketball at all because they are ass compared to the men and it is an inferior product much in the same way I do not care about men's college ball. I do actually watch Caitlin Clark highlights and would watch her in playoff games, which I never would have dared to dream about caring about any WNBA game regardless of stakes.

Women are the biggest haters there are. Caitlin has more attention a few games into her rookie season than the WNBA has gotten in its entire existence. It's pretty obvious as to why. They're jealous haters. Short and sweet.

Women bitch about men oppressing them and they talk all this shit about the patriarchy when the reality is women hate and tear down other women far more than men ever have or will.

Indeed, we see it here. The jealous haters are out in droves even though Caitlin's presence is literally benefiting every single WNBA player, lol.

[warriorfan]

lmao these ***** are so miserable it’s hilarious

[highwhey]

whites fuming :roll:

[iamgine]

I mean she's scoring 17 ppg on 37 FG% with 6 turnovers per game. Her team is 2nd from bottom.

What do you expect?

[Wardell Curry]

whites fuming :roll:

What does this have to do with skin color? Do whites not root for black basketball players? Has there never been a good white women's basketball player?

Spoiler alert: people that boil every thing down to race are deeply insecure about the color of their own skin. Self loathing. Self hatred. I am sorry.

[highwhey]

What does this have to do with skin color? Do whites not root for black basketball players? Has there never been a good white women's basketball player?

Spoiler alert: people that boil every thing down to race are deeply insecure about the color of their own skin. Self loathing. Self hatred. I am sorry.

spoiler alert: you're fuming :roll:

[Mask the Embiid]

Always the victims

[Wardell Curry]

spoiler alert: you're fuming :roll:

Yes I am, and you putting a rolling emoticon is proof that you're right.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If the point of the Olympic team was to promote the women's game then this would be an awful decision. But if the point is to win gold (and it is) then they just need to put together the best team possible. I don't know much about the women's game but if the 17ppg in 37% is accurate and as bad for a female player as it sounds for a male player then there's no argument to be made.

[Gohan]

Blacks stay winning:banana:

[beasted]

If the point of the Olympic team was to promote the women's game then this would be an awful decision. But if the point is to win gold (and it is) then they just need to put together the best team possible. I don't know much about the women's game but if the 17ppg in 37% is accurate and as bad for a female player as it sounds for a male player then there's no argument to be made.

Both can be true at the same time. They should be trying to build an international fanbase by showcasing their leagues stars.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Both can be true at the same time. They should be trying to build an international fanbase by showcasing their leagues stars.
No, both cannot be true. If Clark is not either one of the best American players or an excellent fit for the roster and she is only out they're for the sake of popularity then you are prioritizing popularity at the cost of sending someone that could help the team win more. Now if those numbers don't represent her true ability to contribute then things are different. But those stats sound to me like a young player that is still figuring out what she can do at a higher level. It would be unwise and unfair to take her over someone that helps the team more. Let her make the team in merit in a few years and it's better for everyone. She would deserve to be there, less controversy, etc.

[Patrick Chewing]

In other news....she scored 30 points last night.

[ILLsmak]

No, both cannot be true. If Clark is not either one of the best American players or an excellent fit for the roster and she is only out they're for the sake of popularity then you are prioritizing popularity at the cost of sending someone that could help the team win more. Now if those numbers don't represent her true ability to contribute then things are different. But those stats sound to me like a young player that is still figuring out what she can do at a higher level. It would be unwise and unfair to take her over someone that helps the team more. Let her make the team in merit in a few years and it's better for everyone. She would deserve to be there, less controversy, etc.

She's like the number 1 all time WNBA pick haha. Maybe there would be like Cheryl Miller or someone else way back when pro women's bball wasn't really even a thing, but she is the number 1 pick and I bet most teams would trade their best player for her if they had the chance. She might not be ready YET, ok.

However, give her the last spot. Let her play against them in practice. People want to see her. Let her play in garbage time, and if she shows out (she likely will,) let her play more.

The women's team is like the US dream team. They don't lose. It's not one of those 'we need to build the right team,' and it's not like the men's where a great player might pass up the shot. The olympics only happen a certain amount of times in a player's career. To leave a 22 year old off the roster is ridiculous.

It does seem very hateful. You can even say if she absolutely shit during the try outs, she should have made it because of her body of work. She obviously CAN play. The rest of the girls are gonna be mad that she's on there? This is a situation that hasn't happened in basketball before. I don't think one player has ever been this big with so little pro experience. To leave her off makes no sense. Even her olympic jersey sales would probably make up for any problems. Plus, she's a big draw.

It's just complete hateful garbage. I can't even believe I'm posting on ISH to say this, but this is a true face palm moment for humanity haha. You can try to play devil's advocate with it, but when you take a step back and look at it, it's absurd.

One woman is too proud to let the biggest draw for the sport, ever, have a spot? Putting her on the team is gonna ruin their chemistry? It makes no sense and it reflects poorly on so many levels.

RIP. Legit, if I were one of the girls I would say, "I think Cait deserves a spot, I am willing to give my spot up." Then start a campaign for that. It would be worth it.

The argument that she's just not good enough is completely off base, and I can't believe anyone would make it. Plus, you are robbing her, and the other girls, of valuable experience. They would all be better practicing against her. RIP again.

Edit: https://youtu.be/OZoaiHTgBjk?si=K325d126xUG3VnPo&t=92

-Smak

[RRR3]

She’s been playing like crap why would they pick her? I like Caitlin but she’s been disappointing so far and some of yall are delusional about her. Shes not being persecuted.

[Real Men Wear Green]

She's like the number 1 all time WNBA pick haha. Maybe there would be like Cheryl Miller or someone else way back when pro women's bball wasn't really even a thing, but she is the number 1 pick and I bet most teams would trade their best player for her if they had the chance. She might not be ready YET, ok.

However, give her the last spot. Let her play against them in practice. People want to see her. Let her play in garbage time, and if she shows out (she likely will,) let her play more.

The women's team is like the US dream team. They don't lose. It's not one of those 'we need to build the right team,' and it's not like the men's where a great player might pass up the shot. The olympics only happen a certain amount of times in a player's career. To leave a 22 year old off the roster is ridiculous.

It does seem very hateful. You can even say if she absolutely shit during the try outs, she should have made it because of her body of work. She obviously CAN play. The rest of the girls are gonna be mad that she's on there? This is a situation that hasn't happened in basketball before. I don't think one player has ever been this big with so little pro experience. To leave her off makes no sense. Even her olympic jersey sales would probably make up for any problems. Plus, she's a big draw.

It's just complete hateful garbage. I can't even believe I'm posting on ISH to say this, but this is a true face palm moment for humanity haha. You can try to play devil's advocate with it, but when you take a step back and look at it, it's absurd.

One woman is too proud to let the biggest draw for the sport, ever, have a spot? Putting her on the team is gonna ruin their chemistry? It makes no sense and it reflects poorly on so many levels.

RIP. Legit, if I were one of the girls I would say, "I think Cait deserves a spot, I am willing to give my spot up." Then start a campaign for that. It would be worth it.

The argument that she's just not good enough is completely off base, and I can't believe anyone would make it. Plus, you are robbing her, and the other girls, of valuable experience. They would all be better practicing against her. RIP again.

Edit: https://youtu.be/OZoaiHTgBjk?si=K325d126xUG3VnPo&t=92

-Smak"Body of work?" She's a rookie, that's a ridiculous statement. You want to argue she's the most popular wnba player, she is that, no question. But this is supposed to be about sending the best possible team. Sending her is basically like when they put Christian Laettner on the Dream Team. This should be about merit and/or fit not popularity. The goal is to win gold not get views on social media. The idea that she is being deprived because she's not making it at 22 is insane. Every wnba rookie is probably between 20 and 23, how is she somehow the only one being deprived? This is just not making any sense. If she is as talented as believed she will be good enough to play in the world games and have 10+ years of international competition from there. You guys want it to just be given to her before she earns it over the better players. Not supposed to work that way.

[highwhey]

:roll:

[90sgoat]

If the point of the Olympic team was to promote the women's game then this would be an awful decision. But if the point is to win gold (and it is) then they just need to put together the best team possible. I don't know much about the women's game but if the 17ppg in 37% is accurate and as bad for a female player as it sounds for a male player then there's no argument to be made.

Don't tell me she couldn't get a Christian Laettner spot.

[RRR3]

Don't tell me she couldn't get a Christian Laettner spot.
Steaming.

[ImKobe]

She's not good enough to make the team yet, doesn't matter how popular she is.

[Manny98]

She’s been playing like crap why would they pick her? I like Caitlin but she’s been disappointing so far and some of yall are delusional about her. Shes not being persecuted.

This i don't understand why people are getting upset she's not even a top 50 player in the WNBA right now

[ArbitraryWater]

If the point of the Olympic team was to promote the women's game then this would be an awful decision. But if the point is to win gold (and it is) then they just need to put together the best team possible. I don't know much about the women's game but if the 17ppg in 37% is accurate and as bad for a female player as it sounds for a male player then there's no argument to be made.


Thats like dropping Curry cause he had a bad first 10 games or whatever its been


Ultra retarded

[Real Men Wear Green]

Thats like dropping Curry cause he had a bad first 10 games or whatever its been


Ultra retarded
I would say comparing the greatest shooter of all time to someone that average 17ppg on 37% is pretty ****in stupid.

[beasted]

No, both cannot be true. If Clark is not either one of the best American players or an excellent fit for the roster and she is only out they're for the sake of popularity then you are prioritizing popularity at the cost of sending someone that could help the team win more. Now if those numbers don't represent her true ability to contribute then things are different. But those stats sound to me like a young player that is still figuring out what she can do at a higher level. It would be unwise and unfair to take her over someone that helps the team more. Let her make the team in merit in a few years and it's better for everyone. She would deserve to be there, less controversy, etc.

Yes, both can absolutely be true. Do you really think Carmello was the best fit for the 08 Olympic team when they already had Kobe, LeBron, and Wade?

Shane Battier who was like 2nd in DPOY would have been the absolute perfect selection for fit and winning IQ. In the 06 FIBA World Championship many faulted Carmelo for his chucker mindset leading in scoring, but resulting in only Bronze, while Battier played his role perfectly on that same squad. When the Olympics rolled around, the selection is clear that if you're trying to grow the brand of the league, you select Carmelo every time.

[Kblaze8855]

The mvp of the WNBA didn’t make it one time. They left off that pink mamba girl who hit all those game winners in college and is putting up like 27 a game right now. They always take the best proven veterans and legends. I don’t believe they have lost a game in the last 30 years. They seem to know what they’re doing. She’s going to end up in two or three of these.

go to home, likely does nothing but add viewers at the sake of credibility and respect among players. I don’t know if there’s a basketball argument she should even be one of the top 2-3 alternates and you can’t blame basketball people for leaning basketball.

It’s dumb business but probably best for sending a strong team. How often do we bitch about leagues and businesses leaning optics and fan service over what’s most deserving?

[Kblaze8855]

Yes, both can absolutely be true. Do you really think Carmello was the best fit for the 08 Olympic team when they already had Kobe, LeBron, and Wade?

Shane Battier who was like 2nd in DPOY would have been the absolute perfect selection for fit and winning IQ. In the 06 FIBA World Championship many faulted Carmelo for his chucker mindset leading in scoring, but resulting in only Bronze, while Battier played his role perfectly on that same squad. When the Olympics rolled around, the selection is clear that if you're trying to grow the brand of the league, you select Carmelo every time.

Carmelo was legitimately one of the better international players of all time. He would probably make the Hall of Fame off of international play alone.

[Real Men Wear Green]

1: Rookie Melo was a good player, the top scorer on a playoff team. Caitlin Clark, right now, is not a good player at the WNBA level. Her season so far in the WNBA does not justify a spot on the Olympic team. She is talented and will have ample opportunity to make Team USA in the future. But this need to just put her on the team when there are better players that deserve it more is not rational. Let her earn it.

2. If the team's failure is truly to be blamed on Melo (and it isn't) how is that an argument for including a below average wnba franchise player that actually won less than Melo in college? You aren't making any sense.

Be patient. Let her earn her spot. It seems like she will one day. It's extremely rare that a rookie in their league is automatically one of the best players. There's nothing wrong with that, it's natural.

[warriorfan]

1: Rookie Melo was a good player, the top scorer on a playoff team. Caitlin Clark, right now, is not a good player at the WNBA level. Her season so far in the WNBA does not justify a spot on the Olympic team. She is talented and will have ample opportunity to make Team USA in the future. But this need to just put her on the team when there are better players that deserve it more is not rational. Let her earn it.

2. If the team's failure is truly to be blamed on Melo (and it isn't) how is that an argument for including a below average wnba franchise player that actually won less than Melo in college? You aren't making any sense.

Be patient. Let her earn her spot. It seems like she will one day. It's extremely rare that a rookie in their league is automatically one of the best players. There's nothing wrong with that, it's natural.

This guy is such a cuck

[Real Men Wear Green]

This guy is such a cuck
I must have hurt your feelings badly at some point. A shame I can't remember it.

[ILLsmak]

The mvp of the WNBA didn’t make it one time. They left off that pink mamba girl who hit all those game winners in college and is putting up like 27 a game right now. They always take the best proven veterans and legends. I don’t believe they have lost a game in the last 30 years. They seem to know what they’re doing. She’s going to end up in two or three of these.

go to home, likely does nothing but add viewers at the sake of credibility and respect among players. I don’t know if there’s a basketball argument she should even be one of the top 2-3 alternates and you can’t blame basketball people for leaning basketball.

It’s dumb business but probably best for sending a strong team. How often do we bitch about leagues and businesses leaning optics and fan service over what’s most deserving?

They are showing love to ol girl who is going to her 'record breaking' 6th olympics. That's not the strongest team. One of the girls has been injured and will probably still be injured for Olympics, thus, ironically, paving the way for Clark to make it as an alternate.

I dunno. You should watch her play. Even in college or whatever. Her shots are like haha, but she is a ridiculous passer. She might not be a good enough defender, who knows, but she definitely has the skill set to play. Her talent is unreal. It's not hype. I try to avoid getting on hype trains, but let's be real, breaking the all time college scoring record is a huge deal. She's not some diva that people are propping up for no reason.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MsA547Bc2fc haha, my fav one being the girl who just chucks it off the foam support of the backboard.

She's really not playing badly, either. Some dude was posting that she is averaging like 16.8 ppg (or whatever) and someone was like yea so, and he said, "That's 13th in the league." Her shooting, while facing the pressure she is, is elite. She would cook in the olympics. Her passing is really what amazed me, though. She is at least AS good as the people there, all but probably the best-best vets, but she could learn pretty fast, too.

Like I said, these are devil's advocate arguments. She should have made it day 1 with no WNBA experience. To say she has to prove herself again is hate when she didn't have to prove anything to be the run away, like Shaq level 'we all got a jersey for you during the lotto,' number 1 pick. If you haven't been keeping away from sports TV / web for the past two years, you know she's been the biggest thing to ever happen to the WNBA.

It's hate because people are saying 'well she's unproven, she's just popular.' No, she's popular because she's good and is doing stuff people haven't seen. She is changing the game with the way she plays. True, she will get plenty of team USA. Probably every one after this one, every FIBA, too, but the real question is why not this one?

You can split hairs and say she's not the most deserving, but it's more about the ego of someone who gets left off, not about whether or not she can fill their role. If you think putting her on the team, even on the deep bench, is going to make team USA lose, I dunno what to say. But, to me, she's already proven enough and done enough for women's basketball.

PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THE GAMES NOW. haha. It's subconscious hate to try to separate her popularity from her talent and compare it to people who, if they are better, aren't on a different level than her, and say she doesn't deserve it. I do think team USA could lose if they added her because of the massive egos of these girls that is apparently preventing them from putting someone who is gonna make THEM money and make people watch THEM.

She doesn't even really have to play. They haven't lost in like 30 years. The thing is, she would probably play. She would probably make amazing moments. The argument against it... that some vets are like, man I am just more solid than her. I put in the work, etc.

Watch her make the team as an alternate and this will all be BS, but the truth is that she should have made it. I really question people saying she's not good enough. And like I said, one of these girls should have the sense to give up their spot.

I don't really care. I'm just watching the world and when shit makes absolutely no sense, I get upset. It's also upsetting when people try to rationalize stuff that makes no sense. I've lived long enough to know that people can rationalize just about anything. It's really hard for something to have NO argument, but this is pretty close. Even the people who say she shouldn't have made it concede on every level (except the level of being even better than they would be, but still winning lol) that it would be better if she did.

You just start feeling bad for people after they get hate on so much, especially when they have already done a lot. Gil was saying people mad like they were at Bron because they don't think he deserved it at first. I agree, but she did a lot more than Bron before she played her first game. The fact that people care about her and they don't care about the league at all is what really is bothering everyone. She HAS paid her dues. She HAS proven she belongs. She's not just some rookie. She's even playing pretty well in the WNBA even tho people are sticking her from inbounds.

She's also 17th in the league in blocks loool. 4th in assists with her teammates not catching shit. This is some different shit. This is a generational moment, and they are salted to the core. That's what bothers me.

Whatever, tho, carry on dudes haha. I just had to let it out.

-Smak

[tpols]

I must have hurt your feelings badly at some point. A shame I can't remember it.

Nah bro...

If Sabrina Ionescu and and Kayla Copper can make it with zero Olympic experience so can Claŕk.

The hilarious thing about it is all prior WNBA greats have made it, but the ONLY one that has actually made casual fans watch them is Clark.

I feel like the WNBA is profiting off the hate she garners. It's draws headlines to cheapshot and snub her.

That's when people watch. :oldlol: (myself included)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nah bro...

If Sabrina Ionescu and and Kayla Copper can make it with zero Olympic experience so can Claŕk.

The hilarious thing about it is all prior WNBA greats have made it, but the ONLY one that has actually made casual fans watch them is Clark.

I feel like the WNBA is profiting off the hate she garners. It's draws headlines to cheapshot and snub her.

That's when people watch. :oldlol: (myself included)
Are Copper or Ionescu having worse seasons than Clark? I'm not your brother. I kind of hate you.

[warriorfan]

They are showing love to ol girl who is going to her 'record breaking' 6th olympics. That's not the strongest team. One of the girls has been injured and will probably still be injured for Olympics, thus, ironically, paving the way for Clark to make it as an alternate.

I dunno. You should watch her play. Even in college or whatever. Her shots are like haha, but she is a ridiculous passer. She might not be a good enough defender, who knows, but she definitely has the skill set to play. Her talent is unreal. It's not hype. I try to avoid getting on hype trains, but let's be real, breaking the all time college scoring record is a huge deal. She's not some diva that people are propping up for no reason.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MsA547Bc2fc haha, my fav one being the girl who just chucks it off the foam support of the backboard.

She's really not playing badly, either. Some dude was posting that she is averaging like 16.8 ppg (or whatever) and someone was like yea so, and he said, "That's 13th in the league." Her shooting, while facing the pressure she is, is elite. She would cook in the olympics. Her passing is really what amazed me, though. She is at least AS good as the people there, all but probably the best-best vets, but she could learn pretty fast, too.

Like I said, these are devil's advocate arguments. She should have made it day 1 with no WNBA experience. To say she has to prove herself again is hate when she didn't have to prove anything to be the run away, like Shaq level 'we all got a jersey for you during the lotto,' number 1 pick. If you haven't been keeping away from sports TV / web for the past two years, you know she's been the biggest thing to ever happen to the WNBA.

It's hate because people are saying 'well she's unproven, she's just popular.' No, she's popular because she's good and is doing stuff people haven't seen. She is changing the game with the way she plays. True, she will get plenty of team USA. Probably every one after this one, every FIBA, too, but the real question is why not this one?

You can split hairs and say she's not the most deserving, but it's more about the ego of someone who gets left off, not about whether or not she can fill their role. If you think putting her on the team, even on the deep bench, is going to make team USA lose, I dunno what to say. But, to me, she's already proven enough and done enough for women's basketball.

PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THE GAMES NOW. haha. It's subconscious hate to try to separate her popularity from her talent and compare it to people who, if they are better, aren't on a different level than her, and say she doesn't deserve it. I do think team USA could lose if they added her because of the massive egos of these girls that is apparently preventing them from putting someone who is gonna make THEM money and make people watch THEM.

She doesn't even really have to play. They haven't lost in like 30 years. The thing is, she would probably play. She would probably make amazing moments. The argument against it... that some vets are like, man I am just more solid than her. I put in the work, etc.

Watch her make the team as an alternate and this will all be BS, but the truth is that she should have made it. I really question people saying she's not good enough. And like I said, one of these girls should have the sense to give up their spot.

I don't really care. I'm just watching the world and when shit makes absolutely no sense, I get upset. It's also upsetting when people try to rationalize stuff that makes no sense. I've lived long enough to know that people can rationalize just about anything. It's really hard for something to have NO argument, but this is pretty close. Even the people who say she shouldn't have made it concede on every level (except the level of being even better than they would be, but still winning lol) that it would be better if she did.

You just start feeling bad for people after they get hate on so much, especially when they have already done a lot. Gil was saying people mad like they were at Bron because they don't think he deserved it at first. I agree, but she did a lot more than Bron before she played her first game. The fact that people care about her and they don't care about the league at all is what really is bothering everyone. She HAS paid her dues. She HAS proven she belongs. She's not just some rookie. She's even playing pretty well in the WNBA even tho people are sticking her from inbounds.

She's also 17th in the league in blocks loool. 4th in assists with her teammates not catching shit. This is some different shit. This is a generational moment, and they are salted to the core. That's what bothers me.

Whatever, tho, carry on dudes haha. I just had to let it out.

-Smak

Yeah. If the argument is they win everytime….I don’t see why they can’t put Clark on the team even if she isn’t the best option (which is ridiculous, she obviously should be on the team for skill reasons).

But even if she wasn’t. Clark would obviously be a huge draw. And it seems to me the theme with WNBA and Women’s sports in general is they are trying to get it to grow and not make it a total joke like it has been. The number one way to do that is let Clark be a part of the team. To me it seems like quite simply the women are being haters and shooting themselves and their “cause” in the foot in the process.



I must have hurt your feelings badly at some point. A shame I can't remember it.

No you just hurt my brain with your retarded nonsense

[highwhey]

Nah bro...

If Sabrina Ionescu and and Kayla Copper can make it with zero Olympic experience so can Claŕk.

The hilarious thing about it is all prior WNBA greats have made it, but the ONLY one that has actually made casual fans watch them is Clark.

I feel like the WNBA is profiting off the hate she garners. It's draws headlines to cheapshot and snub her.

That's when people watch. :oldlol: (myself included)

you're retarded. sabrin and kayla aren't rookies and are having much better seasons.

[tpols]

Are Copper or Ionescu having worse seasons than Clark? I'm not your brother. I kind of hate you.

You don't hate me. You hate yourself. It's a projection.

That's why everytime you post its always an argument or some bitter reply. You're literally debating your own reflection.

But that's cool. We all are in a way.

On to Game 2!

[warriorfan]

You don't hate me. You hate yourself. It's a projection.

That's why everytime you post its always an argument or some bitter reply. You're literally debating your own reflection.

But that's cool. We all are in a way.

:roll:

damn

low key ether

[tpols]

:roll:

damn

low key ether

I didn't even mean it as an insult tbh. We're all doing the same thing.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You don't hate me. You hate yourself. It's a projection.

That's why everytime you post its always an argument or some bitter reply. You're literally debating your own reflection.

But that's cool. We all are in a way.

On to Game 2!
You are the racist idiot that called me a******. Trust me, I hate you. You are basically a piece of shit. Moving on.

[RRR3]

The typical ISH klan members fuming Clanklin isn’t good enough to make the team. The same people who always are ranting about “no handouts” too. Can’t make this shit up. Maybe Clanklin should stop tossing up bricks and turning the ball over constantly if she wants a spot on the team.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The typical ISH klan members fuming Clanklin isn’t good enough to make the team. The same people who always are ranting about “no handouts” too. Can’t make this shit up. Maybe Clanklin should stop tossing up bricks and turning the ball over constantly if she wants a spot on the team.
What's especially weird to me is that they just need to be patient. Anyone that knows sports knows that pro athletes need years to peak. You don't come into the highest level of your sport and you're immediately one of the best players. Maybe she needs to get stronger, maybe she needs to make better decisions about when to shoot or pass, etc. She has things to work on. That's how it always is for rookies. But these idiots just can't be patient.

[Axe]

She's still a rookie who can improve later on. Kinda like wemby last season, although that giraffe has proven that he can post interesting individual stats. People would appreciate them more once both of their presence start translating into a lot of winning for their respective teams.

[John8204]

The typical ISH klan members fuming Clanklin isn’t good enough to make the team. The same people who always are ranting about “no handouts” too. Can’t make this shit up. Maybe Clanklin should stop tossing up bricks and turning the ball over constantly if she wants a spot on the team.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tUYIroI83Gk

Well you aren't wrong but also it still doesn't seem right to have a 41 year old G going for her sixth medal.

[warriorfan]

What’s so weird is rrr3 and the other cuck can’t seem to address the fact that toxicity can exist in women’s sports. lol

Like they are trying to make an insane argument about how it’s actually the right move to leave Clark off the team….which is insane on so many levels that have been stated already here


It’s much easier to address the fact that the women are being toxic rather than mental gymnastics about how there is no argument at all for Clark to even be on the team.

Ridiculous.

[Wardell Curry]

It’s much easier to address the fact that the women are being toxic rather than mental gymnastics about how there is no argument at all for Clark to even be on the team.

Caitlin as a rookie has been blitzed on ball screens more than any other WNBA team, let alone individual player. Let these bozos continue to dwell on her stats though when she's on a basement dweller team that can't capitalize on the doubles. To them everything is political and nothing goes past skin color. Just read the thread.

Let them rail on about how she isn't one of the best players already and isn't deserving of a spot. I promise you that you will not make any headway in an argument. This is core level deep stuff here and it has nothing to do with Caitlin Clark.

[beasted]

Carmelo was legitimately one of the better international players of all time. He would probably make the Hall of Fame off of international play alone.

At that point he wasn't. Assuming we're talking about leading up to the 08 Olympics with the backdrop that Melo was part of the key usage guys that led USA to Bronze in 04 Olympics Athens and 06 WCs in Japan. And also, scoring stats aren't all there is to it. People would have scoffed at leaving Melo off just like replacing Isiah with Laetner on the Dream Team. But just like back then, and just like this thread there would have been people lining up to explain why Battier or some other selection lead to a better fit.

I agree in selecting the star every time if it's even remotely close. You always pick the stars who are used to performing under pressure and also to grow the brand of the league.

[ILLsmak]

What’s so weird is rrr3 and the other cuck can’t seem to address the fact that toxicity can exist in women’s sports. lol

Like they are trying to make an insane argument about how it’s actually the right move to leave Clark off the team….which is insane on so many levels that have been stated already here


It’s much easier to address the fact that the women are being toxic rather than mental gymnastics about how there is no argument at all for Clark to even be on the team.

Ridiculous.

Everyone is toxic. It's just funny people have this idea about systemic racism / whatever sort of oppression when any sort of good ol boys (or girls) club is the same thing. Anything preventing something from rising when it should is oppressive. Someone who had to fight tooth and nail for their opportunity because of some inherent handicap should be like oh let me put you ON tho, let me help you maximize your success and bring others with you. There are a few people like that, but not many. Most are like shit I had to fight against this oppressive system so long, I ain't giving up my spot. But it's like... that's the same shit haha.

I got oppressed; I see someone not being oppressed. **** THAT. No, it should be like, I see you girl, go do your thing, do as much as you can to make it so that oppression never happens again. That's why I like rappers who never hate on anyone. Some of the real OGs like Redman who are just real. They understand what it is, that it is a broken system and it's hard to make it, but to get that spot and use it to gate keep is just as bad.

It's not so righteous at the core. They just hate that someone else did it and they didn't. I dunno why people are like that, but they are.

Edit: another1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYxmytTZa78

-Smak

[Charlie Sheen]

What’s so weird is rrr3 and the other cuck can’t seem to address the fact that toxicity can exist in women’s sports. lol

Like they are trying to make an insane argument about how it’s actually the right move to leave Clark off the team….which is insane on so many levels that have been stated already here


It’s much easier to address the fact that the women are being toxic rather than mental gymnastics about how there is no argument at all for Clark to even be on the team.

Ridiculous.

The Uconn coach had a good take last week https://www.cbssports.com/wnba/news/uconns-geno-auriemma-says-fevers-caitlin-clark-was-set-up-for-failure-calls-out-delusional-fans/


"I think she talks a lot of s--t, and she gets a lot of s--t back. She deserves everything she gets because she gives it as good as she gets it. She's just not built for the physicality of this league, and she's not quick enough to get away from the physicality."

Clark was unapologetic when she was styling on the college game... it cant be toxic when her opponent gets satisfaction when she is humbled. That is sports.

Coach was not a hater this is the rest of his quote if you do not want to go to the article.


"When she gets it, she has elite skills that are going to help her," Auriemma added. "She needs to be on a better team, and she needs experience."

[RRR3]

What’s so weird is rrr3 and the other cuck can’t seem to address the fact that toxicity can exist in women’s sports. lol

Like they are trying to make an insane argument about how it’s actually the right move to leave Clark off the team….which is insane on so many levels that have been stated already here


It’s much easier to address the fact that the women are being toxic rather than mental gymnastics about how there is no argument at all for Clark to even be on the team.

Ridiculous.
Toxicity can exist anywhere, but you're pretty pathetic pretending someone averaging 16.8 PPG on 37.3% with 5.6 turnovers a game deserves to be on team USA. She has been awful.

[ILLsmak]

Toxicity can exist anywhere, but you're pretty pathetic pretending someone averaging 16.8 PPG on 37.3% with 5.6 turnovers a game deserves to be on team USA. She has been awful.

She really hasn't, but two things: I bet she shits on people because of the snub. She is only going to get better with every game unless she gets injured. I also bet she will end up being on Team USA as an alternate.

"Honestly, no disappointment. It just gives me something to work for; it's a dream. Hopefully one day I can be there. I think it's just a little more motivation. You remember that. Hopefully when four years comes back around, I can be there."

^ shemad. https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/40314567/caitlin-clark-says-not-disappointed-olympics-snub

MEMBER DAT. Remember it while she is raw dogging people near the end of the season or, even, now.

-Smak

[kawhileonard2]

Dumb decision or no big deal??

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1799446726585262464?t=d1SuUzHJbdxAOlAbTYdxiQ&s=19

Dumb! People only watching Women's BBall because of her.

[iamgine]

What’s so weird is rrr3 and the other cuck can’t seem to address the fact that toxicity can exist in women’s sports. lol

Like they are trying to make an insane argument about how it’s actually the right move to leave Clark off the team….which is insane on so many levels that have been stated already here


It’s much easier to address the fact that the women are being toxic rather than mental gymnastics about how there is no argument at all for Clark to even be on the team.

Ridiculous.
Both can be true at once.

Women being toxic = true

Clark doesn't deserve to be on the team based on her performance = true

[warriorfan]

Toxicity can exist anywhere, but you're pretty pathetic pretending someone averaging 16.8 PPG on 37.3% with 5.6 turnovers a game deserves to be on team USA. She has been awful.

You are ignoring the fact that a lot more people will watch and care about it if Clark played.

Let me ask you this. How many Women’s Olympic Basketball games have you ever watched? Followed? Read a box score?

No one cares. And right now Woman’s basketball has a hype wave, and for them to not ride it and try to exploit it as much as possible is just plain stupid.

Clark is a meme hype wave right now, the lady players need to get out of their feels and maximize it. If they really give two shits about reaching out to young girls and being role models and all that, Clark is their vehicle to reach the most.

[Wardell Curry]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/brennan/2024/06/08/caitlin-clark-olympic-decision-usa-basketball/74028245007/


But something strange and potentially much most impactful is percolating around the snub of Clark. Two sources, both long-time U.S. basketball veterans with decades of experience in the women’s game, told me Friday that concern about how Clark’s millions of fans would react to what would likely be limited playing time on a stacked roster was a factor in the decision making.


Speaking of 3’s, there seems to be a notion out there that Clark didn’t deserve to be put on the team on merit. That’s ridiculous. First of all, the decision is subjective, so you can make a case for just about anyone and everyone.

But how about some statistics? Clark is 13th in the WNBA in points per game. (Taurasi is 15th.) Clark is fourth in assists per game. (Sabrina Ionescu, 8th; Kelsey Plum, 11th; and Jewell Loyd, 14th, all are on the list for the Olympic team). Clark is second in 3-pointers made, two ahead of Taurasi.

In her first 10 games, Clark scored more than 150 points and had more than 50 rebounds and 50 assists, a feat previously accomplished only by Ionescu in WNBA history. She also became the first rookie and only the fourth player ever in the league to record 30 points, five rebounds, five assists, three steals and three blocks in a game, joining Taurasi, Stewart and Angel McCoughtry.

Just hours before she found out she wasn’t going to be on the Olympic team, Clark made a WNBA rookie record-tying seven 3’s and scored 30 points in front of the largest WNBA crowd in 17 years: 20,333 in D.C., more than double the crowd Chicago drew the night before in the same arena. She became the first player in WNBA history with 200 points and 75 assists in her first 12 career games.

[Wardell Curry]

https://i.postimg.cc/V6RT9rcj/Screenshot-2024-06-10-070011.png

:roll:

[RRR3]

You are ignoring the fact that a lot more people will watch and care about it if Clark played.

Let me ask you this. How many Women’s Olympic Basketball games have you ever watched? Followed? Read a box score?

No one cares. And right now Woman’s basketball has a hype wave, and for them to not ride it and try to exploit it as much as possible is just plain stupid.

Clark is a meme hype wave right now, the lady players need to get out of their feels and maximize it. If they really give two shits about reaching out to young girls and being role models and all that, Clark is their vehicle to reach the most.
If your goal is solely to make the WNBA money then sure Clark is a great pick but if I was building a team for the Olympics I’d be more worried about winning personally. Probably the same thing the people making the selections are thinking.

[RRR3]

https://i.postimg.cc/V6RT9rcj/Screenshot-2024-06-10-070011.png

:roll:
So your logic is because one person who didn’t deserve it statistically made it another should too?

You’re also ignoring that Taurasi is like the Kobe of the WNBA, she’s old but considered a legend. Clark’s legend so far is solely at the collegiate level.

[Wardell Curry]

So your logic is because one person who didn’t deserve it statistically made it another should too?

You’re also ignoring that Taurasi is like the Kobe of the WNBA, she’s old but considered a legend. Clark’s legend so far is solely at the collegiate level.

https://i.postimg.cc/kGzFTQkk/Screenshot-2024-06-10-071551.png

https://i.postimg.cc/hvdkHBjk/Screenshot-2024-06-10-071642.png

You talk about how her stats suck and she "sucks" but ignore the fact that most WNBA players stats suck. Stop thinking of their stats in comparison to men.

I'm not going to argue with you. I know better than that. I'm also not putting in any more work researching the subject for you. Have fun.

[Wardell Curry]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/95gws45xqVI

[Wardell Curry]

In case anyone feels like there is any argument left to be had here, taken directly from the USAB website:

https://www.usab.com/about/our-mission-values


Our Mission

As the governing body for basketball in the United States, USA Basketball is a worldwide leader in the sport through competitive excellence in international competition and by promoting, growing and elevating the game at all levels while ensuring that athletes and other participants compete and develop in a safe, inclusive and welcoming environment.

:roll::roll:

This is some extreme top level Haterade. Point blank.

[iamgine]

https://i.postimg.cc/kGzFTQkk/Screenshot-2024-06-10-071551.png

https://i.postimg.cc/hvdkHBjk/Screenshot-2024-06-10-071642.png

You talk about how her stats suck and she "sucks" but ignore the fact that most WNBA players stats suck. Stop thinking of their stats in comparison to men.

I'm not going to argue with you. I know better than that. I'm also not putting in any more work researching the subject for you. Have fun.

Her stats suck for a WNBA player.

[bison]

Her stats are good for a WNBA rookie, but she's not a top 15 or 20 player. Her being left off the olympic squad has nothing to do with race or politics.

[r15mohd]

picking CC, even if not the best in the WNBA, did not hurt team USA as much as they are complaining it to be - she'd be given minimal playing time like any other 12th on the squad if she could not fully keep up/compete (which I personally doubt she'd have much issue in providing a beneficial role).

dumb decision is my vote. the exponential attention she would have brought cannot be overlooked, it's a NEED for the sports development/future.

[Bawkish]

If your goal is solely to make the WNBA money then sure Clark is a great pick but if I was building a team for the Olympics I’d be more worried about winning personally. Probably the same thing the people making the selections are thinking.

Doesn't matter, they're going to win anyway. Might as well select her for exposure

[GimmeThat]

the reporter once asked the entire olympic women basketball staff "how would you define positionless basketball."

in which the staff responded in such manner "it's simple, it means you don't get to play basketball."

[warriorfan]

Doesn't matter, they're going to win anyway. Might as well select her for exposure

Yes, anyone trying to argue that Women’s team is in jeopardy of losing one game if Clark is on the team……that’s just either the most insanely low iq take or just being intellectually dishonest.

[GimmeThat]

still living in the slow the pace down and no transition defense era.

pretty sure most of the players on the olympic roster played in oversea leagues. which is why a 42 year old Diana Taurasi made the team for basketball reasons. it's got people trying to cash in their outdated check written all over it.

[bullettooth]

She's the biggest thing to happen to women's basketball since ever. I don't care about women's basketball at all because they are ass compared to the men and it is an inferior product much in the same way I do not care about men's college ball. I do actually watch Caitlin Clark highlights and would watch her in playoff games, which I never would have dared to dream about caring about any WNBA game regardless of stakes.

Women are the biggest haters there are. Caitlin has more attention a few games into her rookie season than the WNBA has gotten in its entire existence. It's pretty obvious as to why. They're jealous haters. Short and sweet.

Women bitch about men oppressing them and they talk all this shit about the patriarchy when the reality is women hate and tear down other women far more than men ever have or will.

Indeed, we see it here. The jealous haters are out in droves even though Caitlin's presence is literally benefiting every single WNBA player, lol.

The sad thing is that women will ignore this and keep doing what they're doing, even though they've been told straight to their face (see Bill Burr).

[ILLsmak]

https://x.com/undisputed/status/1800192699745943652

that chain!

More common sense. I'm glad the nba dudes are like "lololol wat u guys doin tho???"

Has any NBA player come out with the women's/media's take that she needs more experience, she will get her turn etc. haha.

-Smak

[GimmeThat]

https://x.com/undisputed/status/1800192699745943652

that chain!

More common sense. I'm glad the nba dudes are like "lololol wat u guys doin tho???"

Has any NBA player come out with the women's/media's take that she needs more experience, she will get her turn etc. haha.

-Smak

Women basketball community - where we'll find men to have the womens babies. where women goes to clinical doctors to donate estrogens. where ex-players turns to prostitution in a community near you.

[Hey Yo]

Quote from a black dude on 'around the horn' yesterday


For @AroundtheHorn I talked about how Caitlin Clark has become an avatar for people to express their disdain for Black women and how a bunch of so-called patriots (<--- white people) are going to treat Team USA this summer.

https://www.outkick.com/sports/espn-andscape-writer-david-dennis-jr-accuses-caitlin-clark-fans-racist-disdain-black-women

[GimmeThat]

For @AroundtheHorn I talked about how Caitlin Clark has become an avatar for people to express their disdain for Black women and how a bunch of so-called patriots (<--- white people) are going to treat Team USA this summer.


-some people should stay on their track & field and never hold a basketball "oh no, he's attacking black women again"

[ILLsmak]

Quote from a black dude on 'around the horn' yesterday


For @AroundtheHorn I talked about how Caitlin Clark has become an avatar for people to express their disdain for Black women and how a bunch of so-called patriots (<--- white people) are going to treat Team USA this summer.

https://www.outkick.com/sports/espn-andscape-writer-david-dennis-jr-accuses-caitlin-clark-fans-racist-disdain-black-women


I agree with dude who said they should have put Angel on there, too. This is a new era. It's got nothing to do with race. It's about taking the buzz, and Angel has plenty of buzz, too, and turning it into something. They have the ability to market their league finally and they are on some zzz shit.

Sabrina vs Steph in the ASG was good stuff, too. Now is the time.

I got nothing more to say, tho. It's just crazy. It's so crazy that it's hard to get over. I just feel really bad for people who are being affected by this, and kind of bad by the people who are buying into the 'reasons.'

-Smak

[L.Kizzle]

She obviously should have made it for marketing purposes. Only way she should have been left off is if she wasn't eligible.

[Soundwave]

All this controversy/media attention in itself is great for the WNBA, if I'm the commissioner of that league secretly I'm loving it.

WNBA is going to grow in popularity a lot in the next 5-10 years.

They've gone from a non-story sport that got no mention on mainstream sports media to being mentioned weekly now.

Shit, even the "women's basketball is against Caitlyn Clark" story line draws attention and viewers and media coverage because it's drama, and at the end of the day, that's all any of this is ... entertainment.

2-3 years ago the WNBA making news during a NBA Finals would have been laughable.