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Im Still Ballin
02-07-2024, 12:24 PM
A little over 20.5 ppg of his 23.8 ppg on 65.2% TS comes off the ball. That's 86.4%. I did the rough/ballpark math below.

I'm not sure if any other player in the league can match that level of off-ball production. Not only is he a knockdown catch-and-shoot player, he also cuts to the basket amazingly well. Handles the ball good enough to attack closeouts effectively.

One of the most portable players in the league. You could effortlessly fit him into any offense.


Almost all of his 23.8 ppg on 65.2% TS comes off the ball. 74.4% of his 4.7 2pt FGM are assisted and 97.8% of his 3.3 3pt FGM are assisted.

4.7 2pt FGM x 0.744 = 3.4968 x 2 = 6.9936 points assisted
3.3 3pt FGM x 0.978 = 3.2274 x 3 = 9.6822 points assisted

16.6758 ppg from assisted FGM.

4.7 2pt FGM x 0.256 = 1.2032 x 2 = 2.4064 points not assisted
3.3 3pt FGM x 0.022 = 0.0726 x 3 = 0.2178 points not assisted

2.6242 ppg from unassisted FGM.

4.5 ppg from free throws are not included. 86.4% of his 19.3 ppg are assisted. Let's assume 86.4% of his 4.5 ppg from free throws are assisted.

4.5 ppg x 0.864 = 3.888 assisted ppg from free throws.

3.888 + 16.6758 = 20.5638 ppg from assisted FGM and free throws.

2.6242 + 0.612 = 3.2362 ppg from unassisted FGM and free throws.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxuJbhJNwaE&pp=ygUPbGF1cmkgbWFya2thbmVu

tpols
02-07-2024, 12:59 PM
He's basically a 6'9 super Klay.

Im Still Ballin
02-07-2024, 01:04 PM
He's basically a 6'9 super Klay.

He's actually a legitimate 7' or 6'11". He plays more like a 6'9" wing.

FultzNationRISE
02-07-2024, 01:11 PM
The absolute best I would say is still Lebron, but Lauri may be somewhere in the running after him.

tpols
02-07-2024, 01:15 PM
He's actually a legitimate 7' or 6'11". He plays more like a 6'9" wing.

I didn't want to say that because I was afraid I'd be totally wrong, but in the clip you posted he looked not only like the tallest guy on the court but the biggest as well. That's insane he has this level of skill and fame wise nobody knows who he is.

Xiao where the **** you at? Why are you not repping your boy? This might be the best talent on the Jazz since Karl Malone.

FultzNationRISE
02-07-2024, 01:35 PM
I didn't want to say that because I was afraid I'd be totally wrong, but in the clip you posted he looked not only like the tallest guy on the court but the biggest as well. That's insane he has this level of skill and fame wise nobody knows who he is.

Xiao where the **** you at? Why are you not repping your boy? This might be the best talent on the Jazz since Karl Malone.

My first time really seeing him was in Cleveland's play-in games a couple years ago, they won the first game I believe in an upset and then lost the second game, but he played great on both sides of the ball even tho he wasnt really featured the way he is now in Utah. I'd heard of him but never really watched him, seemed like he was a great piece to have along with the rest of their young group. I was kinda surprised when they included him in the Mitchell trade that offseason, altho obviously to get Mitchell they had to give up something reasonably valuable.

But yeah the Jazz are an interesting group, they're up to .500 now even though I'm not sure management even wants them to be winning this year for lottery purposes. The move for Collins was nice, theyve got Kessler, Olynyk is having a good year. Loathe as I am to agree with Xiao, they'd probably have even more wins if they hadnt been greenlighting "The Bum" so much earlier in the season.

Curious to see if Ainge does anything at the deadline. They have assets but I guess it'll depend on whats available. But they're def on the rise.

Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 03:06 PM
I didn't want to say that because I was afraid I'd be totally wrong, but in the clip you posted he looked not only like the tallest guy on the court but the biggest as well. That's insane he has this level of skill and fame wise nobody knows who he is.

Xiao where the **** you at? Why are you not repping your boy? This might be the best talent on the Jazz since Karl Malone.



The IPO did not have many biters


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?462939-Any-of-you-want-in-on-Lauri-while-the-stock-is-still-somewhat-low

elementally morale
02-07-2024, 03:50 PM
But yeah the Jazz are an interesting group, they're up to .500 now even though I'm not sure management even wants them to be winning this year for lottery purposes. The move for Collins was nice, theyve got Kessler, Olynyk is having a good year. Loathe as I am to agree with Xiao, they'd probably have even more wins if they hadnt been greenlighting "The Bum" so much earlier in the season.

Clarkson is awful, Xiao is absolutely right. Clarkson was awful back when he was on the Lakers. It was painful watching him play. Impersonating Kobe without the talent and even less inclined to include others is shocking.

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:20 PM
The absolute best I would say is still Lebron, but Lauri may be somewhere in the running after him.

If Lebron could shoot and was 7' maybe

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:21 PM
I didn't want to say that because I was afraid I'd be totally wrong, but in the clip you posted he looked not only like the tallest guy on the court but the biggest as well. That's insane he has this level of skill and fame wise nobody knows who he is.

Xiao where the **** you at? Why are you not repping your boy? This might be the best talent on the Jazz since Karl Malone.

Still not as impactful as Gobert or Stockton.

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:25 PM
My first time really seeing him was in Cleveland's play-in games a couple years ago, they won the first game I believe in an upset and then lost the second game, but he played great on both sides of the ball even tho he wasnt really featured the way he is now in Utah. I'd heard of him but never really watched him, seemed like he was a great piece to have along with the rest of their young group. I was kinda surprised when they included him in the Mitchell trade that offseason, altho obviously to get Mitchell they had to give up something reasonably valuable.

But yeah the Jazz are an interesting group, they're up to .500 now even though I'm not sure management even wants them to be winning this year for lottery purposes. The move for Collins was nice, theyve got Kessler, Olynyk is having a good year. Loathe as I am to agree with Xiao, they'd probably have even more wins if they hadnt been greenlighting "The Bum" so much earlier in the season.

Curious to see if Ainge does anything at the deadline. They have assets but I guess it'll depend on whats available. But they're def on the rise.

Pretty sure they wanted to get rid of him and Sexton. 3 bigs don't work unless they defend like Gobert and McDaniels. Ainge wanted Lauri and Sexton. He used NY to raise the price to 3 1sts. Their 1st this year is top 10 protected to OKC so it actually sounds like they want OKC to have the pick this year in a weak draft. Need to move Collins, The Bum and Simone ideally

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:28 PM
Clarkson is awful, Xiao is absolutely right. Clarkson was awful back when he was on the Lakers. It was painful watching him play. Impersonating Kobe without the talent and even less inclined to include others is shocking.

looking back at his numbers early in his career it's amazing he ever stuck around. Had China written all over him. The fact that he continues to get payed and praised is unbelievable. Definitely painful to watch. I didn't like him when they got him but figured he was better than Exum. I was wrong!

RRR3
02-07-2024, 04:29 PM
According to Xiao Toody can shoot but LeBron who’s hitting ~40% of his 3s can’t. Can’t make this shit up :roll:

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:30 PM
can't quit me! :facepalm

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:32 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski: The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fontecchio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, (https://*********.com/social/) sources tell ESPN.

– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)





Adrian Wojnarowski: Kevin Knox, 2024 second-round pick via Wizards and draft rights to Gabriele Procida to go Jazz in deal, (https://*********.com/social/) sources tell ESPN.
– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)






Adrian Wojnarowski: Simone Fontecchio will be a restricted free agent this summer and Pistons made trade to keep him as part of franchise’s longer-term core. Fontecchio had a lot of suitors at trade deadline — and Pistons land him for an early second-round pick and draft rights to Procida (https://*********.com/social/).

– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)



Should be a high 2nd rounder.

RRR3
02-07-2024, 04:33 PM
can't quit me! :facepalm
Can’t quit replying! :roll:

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:38 PM
I'd guess Knox could be cut for roster space. The draft stash was a high 2nd rounder that will be 22 this summer so he might have some potential too

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:38 PM
empty life without me :roll:

RRR3
02-07-2024, 04:41 PM
Another reply! He can’t stop himself :roll:

He “quit” tho :yaohappy:

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:44 PM
get help!

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:44 PM
Justin Kubatko: Lauri Markkanen was 🔥 last night: ✅ 33 PTS ✅ 11 REB ✅ 12-18 FG ✅ 5-7 3P He’s made at least one 3P in each of his last 50 games, the second-longest such streak in NBA history by a listed 7-footer (Karl-Antony Towns, 83) (https://*********.com/social/). More in my daily game notes: statitudes.com/p/nba-game-not… pic.twitter.com/jNdzzGHP3s
– via Twitter jkubatko (https://twitter.com/jkubatko)

FultzNationRISE
02-07-2024, 04:49 PM
Cant quit each other!

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 04:54 PM
Cant quit each other!

I've quit him. Haven't read a post of his. He said he was quitting me but can't

90sgoat
02-07-2024, 05:06 PM
If Marc Cuban wasn't such an affirmative action cuck, he'd do everything to match Luka with Lauri.

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 06:23 PM
Duane Rankin: Frank Vogel says Jazz forward Lauri Markkanen is one the “hardest guys in the league to prepare for” (https://*********.com/social/) as #Suns face Utah one final time this season. Phoenix 3-0 vs. Jazz this season, but last played them in November.
– via Twitter DuaneRankin (https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin)

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 06:40 PM
Procida is a 21-year-old Italian wing who was taken in the second round during the 2022 draft. He's averaged 8.7 points in 18 minutes in EuroLeague play this season. He was a candidate for the EuroLeague Rising Star award last season.


The second-round pick going to Utah will be the most favorable of either Washington or Memphis's second-round picks in 2024 — and that is the prize of the deal for Utah.


That pick is currently slotted at No. 32 — so the Jazz got a high second-rounder for Fontecchio, who has averaged 8.9 points on 39% 3-point shooting this season while providing solid defense on the wing.

Duffy Pratt
02-07-2024, 07:13 PM
If Lebron could shoot and was 7' maybe

And if he did more off ball than stand like a statue.