Listen to Cam Johnson talk about shooting with JJ Redick.

[Kblaze8855]

If you’re the kinda junkie many of us are it’s a really quick ten minutes.


https://youtu.be/fl6krm7PveM?si=4iYaw_2FqIRb2kDp


The attention to detail is great. This is what I want from people covering the game but I understand they don’t have the time to go into it between timed segments. It’s just refreshing to hear two people who actually know what they’re talking about go in depth without the bullshit and cliche parts fans and media(and players with limited time) lean on.

[FKAri]

It's a bit like how Steph's jumper is a single motion rather than the typical 2. He doesn't elevate and bring the ball in the pocket, then release. His shooting motion begins the moment he leaves the ground. It begs the question if it's something that just works for him or is if it's a more optimal approach. After all once upon a time elevating to create separation on your shot was considered a wild and terrible shot attempt.

And it's nice to hear JJ emphasize the importance of getting your muscle memory down for things in game speed. I remember Grant Hill talked about this in the 90s. It's great way to workout coming off curls and shooting or two dribble pullups. Too many people are doing it at a gingerly pace. There's benefit to slow run throughs to get down form but you gotta drill it in game speed to get it ingrained.

[Kblaze8855]

I actually thought we might see more people emulate Steph’s shooting style by now but I realize it has not been long enough. A lot of younger kids do the one motion push shot naturally and the ones who do it emulating him(no doubt with the help of their parents and coaches) aren’t nba aged yet. Might be pretty widespread back end of the 2020s.

[WhiteKyrie]

Shump when he talks defensive shop with Gilbert Arenas is awesome too


I actually thought we might see more people emulate Steph’s shooting style by now but I realize it has not been long enough. A lot of younger kids do the one motion push shot naturally and the ones who do it emulating him(no doubt with the help of their parents and coaches) aren’t nba aged yet. Might be pretty widespread back end of the 2020s.

I don’t think it’s the best version of a shot. It works greatly for Steph, yes, but it’s a singular motion push shot. Not a jump shot. With increased physicality, where you can get in someone’s square, you could affect that type of movement immensely.

For example, Steph couldn’t even just rise up and shoot over Kevin Love in game 7 of the 2016 Finals because of this motion.

[Kblaze8855]

I’m not saying it’s the best for everybody, but it is natural to kids coming up who due to their size always have a bit of a push shot. There will probably be less people telling them to stop considering the best shooter of all time continued to do it his entire life. You play ball. You see the little kids shooting around. Everyone tiny has a push shot. I suspect a lot more of them are going to keep it because it’s more acceptable now.

[tpols]

He's right, when I take a hard left dribble and pull up it feels 1000% more on target than shooting after going right. I feel like it's just a balance thing where you're using both sides of your body equally and you're more squared up where as going right is an overload to one side.

[WhiteKyrie]

Of course, if you’re going right, and you’re right, handed, a pull up in that motion is more difficult

[90sgoat]

If you’re the kinda junkie many of us are it’s a really quick ten minutes.


https://youtu.be/fl6krm7PveM?si=4iYaw_2FqIRb2kDp


The attention to detail is great. This is what I want from people covering the game but I understand they don’t have the time to go into it between timed segments. It’s just refreshing to hear two people who actually know what they’re talking about go in depth without the bullshit and cliche parts fans and media(and players with limited time) lean on.

Cool vid.

Yeah it's very interesting to hear players talk about this kind of stuff instead of all the bullshit, because you get reminded that these guys, at least some of them, are nerds about the game in addition to being very talented.

Even Rodman, or particularly Rodman, talked about how much he would think about rebounding, how the ball would bounce from which distance and which shot and so on.

I'm sure there are some players who get by on talent in the NBA, but they probably don't become stars, even Shaq had a bunch of theories and strategies, such as getting 4 points each quarter by running the semi-break and getting early position. That kind of think is not discussed at all during ordinary NBA coverage.

It's like, is the NBA not even interested in the sport of basketball?

Sometimes it seems that way and I think it's a mistake, because players don't need to be relateable in terms of personality, but you need to at least feel as if they care and obsess over the game, not just over their image. Perhaps that's what many miss from the 80s and 90s, that feeling that players really ****ing cared about the sport of basketball.