Dame rejects two super trades , still prefers Miami

[Jasper]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/damian-lillard-rejects-two-big-trade-offers/ar-AA1dM1KX?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=3e6d61c2f1ff4695b3d14a3a08edcb75&ei=5

Clips and Boston = rejected :oldlol:

[Axe]

Why not go to philly instead? :confusedshrug:

[Akeem34TheDream]

Is he in a position to reject offers? He could choose not to play for his next team but it would be lose lose situation and one of the worst image destruction for an NBA player. Refusing to play one year after signing a contract? All that loyalty talk was silly but this is getting ridiculous.

[90sgoat]

How do you even do this if you're Miami?

Just offer the worst package ever and take advantage?

Go for real value to not **** a fellow GM over?

Somewhere in between?

Just a horrible way to do it by Dame. He could have forced his way to Miami, just keep it confidential so the Blazers could fake that they were negotiating to get market value from Heat.

Unless he is trying to make Heat be in as good a position as possible.

Honestly, Heat should consider if they want him at all. Why should you trust a traitor?

[bladefd]

Is he in a position to reject offers? He could choose not to play for his next team but it would be lose lose situation and one of the worst image destruction for an NBA player. Refusing to play one year after signing a contract? All that loyalty talk was silly but this is getting ridiculous.

It looks like that is where we are headed. Or Lillard is.

There not being a no-trade clause is irrelevant because all Lillard has to do is refuse to play for the team that trades for him. If he refuses to play for a team, that team will not trade valuable assets for him. Portland won't do the trade, and we return to the waiting game. Miami is in the driver's seat. I think Miami smells blood so they will low-ball their offer to force Portland to take what they offer.

[Kblaze8855]

Dame isn’t gonna just sit out and give back 200 million dollars it would just be a “bad look” to force him. I wouldn’t care much in Portland’s position but what I think doesn’t matter. If they wanna let him **** them over to avoid the perception they did him wrong that’s on them.

[Carbine]

Why would a team give up a bunch of assets for him if he didn't want to be there?

Yo

[Dbrog]

No one ever wants to come to the Blazers anyway so I don't know why they care so much about "looking bad to future free agents." Literally just Spurs his ass. You get shipped to the highest bidder sir especially because we were trying to do you a solid and send you to a contender.

[bladefd]

No one ever wants to come to the Blazers anyway so I don't know why they care so much about "looking bad to future free agents." Literally just Spurs his ass. You get shipped to the highest bidder sir especially because we were trying to do you a solid and send you to a contender.

What highest bidder if he refuses to play for them?

[Axe]

No one ever wants to come to the Blazers anyway so I don't know why they care so much about "looking bad to future free agents." Literally just Spurs his ass. You get shipped to the highest bidder sir especially because we were trying to do you a solid and send you to a contender.
His desire to move on and play for south beach is so publicized that his team is sabotaging him on making it happen.

[Jasper]

If Boston was in the mix , they were not going to move Tatum , so you guessed who was the chip to get Dame.

He has been in the trade talks for a couple years... surprised he doesn't enter free agency and flips off Celtics.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If Boston was in the mix , they were not going to move Tatum , so you guessed who was the chip to get Dame.

He has been in the trade talks for a couple years... surprised he doesn't enter free agency and flips off Celtics.

You are surprised that he doesn't reject 300 million dollars from a contender because of some rumors? If we had Miami or LA weather there would be absolutely nothing lacking for a player picking a team. Most money, the chance to win a ring, superstardom, and an elite franchise. Taking less money to play for nothing on a bad team with cap space isn't a good move. So long as Boston gives him that money buy a thick winter coat and play for a championship for the next five years.

[imdaman99]

This guy is so overrated anyway. Can he hit a 40 footer? Yes. Can he hit a clutch 30 footer? Yes. Does he do anything else? No

[BurningHammer]

Please, Blazers. Exile Dame to Toronto like Spurs did to Kawhi. :rolleyes:

[WhiteKyrie]

Honestly, Heat should consider if they want him at all. Why should you trust a traitor?

Didn’t stop them from taking LeBron

[Axe]

Didn’t stop them from taking LeBron
Meltdown.

[tomtucker]

Why not go to philly instead? :confusedshrug:



because they suck ass, have a history of sucking ass, and will continue to suck ass the next 30 years.

and oh yeah, they suck ass.

[Axe]

because they suck ass, have a history of sucking ass, and will continue to suck ass the next 30 years.

and oh yeah, they suck ass.
Lmao.

I only brought them up because harden was requesting a trade from that team. Maybe they and portland each have the proper assets to go along with a trade for each other.

[coin24]

Is any of this talk and trade scenarios even legit?

If so, then fu*k Dame. He signed the big extension so tough shit, now he doesn’t want to be there after all his rants about loyalty? He’s half the reason they never won anything..
Enjoy Detroit or the magic loser

[Wally450]

I'm glad the Blazers are taking their sweet ass time trading him. :oldlol:

[Dbrog]

What highest bidder if he refuses to play for them?

He doesn't actually have a no-trade clause. Tough cookies for him and risky to the team paying

[bladefd]

He doesn't actually have a no-trade clause. Tough cookies for him and risky to the team paying

Other teams won't bid anything valuable if Lillard refuses to play for them. It doesn't matter if he has a no-trade clause or not.

[90sgoat]

Didn’t stop them from taking LeBron

Didn't Lebron do a sign and trade? If so he can't be blamed like Dame.

He handicapped the Heat more by doing that I believe.

Dame wants to go to Heat without Heat having to give up anything.

[Dbrog]

Other teams won't bid anything valuable if Lillard refuses to play for them. It doesn't matter if he has a no-trade clause or not.

Kawhi was pretty public about not wanting to go to Toronto...we all know how that turned out

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kawhi was pretty public about not wanting to go to Toronto...we all know how that turned out

Toronto benefitted from the Warriors horrible luck so they live the result. But in reality Leonard illustrates why other teams are scared off. Remember that he was traded because he was so strongly against the Spurs that he refused to play for the organization. So even though he's more valuable than (for example) the combo of Derrick White and Robert Williams the Celtics won't do that trade if his agent tells Brad Stevens that he doesn't want to play there. This nuclear option of not playing has become almost as potent as the no-trade clause. Maybe even more devastating because the Blazers don't seem to want to trade Lillaird but are doing it anyway with the added headache of Lillaird telling the teams he doesn't like to stay out of negotiations.

[Dbrog]

Toronto benefitted from the Warriors horrible luck so they live the result. But in reality Leonard illustrates why other teams are scared off. Remember that he was traded because he was so strongly against the Spurs that he refused to play for the organization. So even though he's more valuable than (for example) the combo of Derrick White and Robert Williams the Celtics won't do that trade if his agent tells Brad Stevens that he doesn't want to play there. This nuclear option of not playing has become almost as potent as the no-trade clause. Maybe even more devastating because the Blazers don't seem to want to trade Lillaird but are doing it anyway with the added headache of Lillaird telling the teams he doesn't like to stay out of negotiations.

Your argument makes logical sense and assumes there aren't other teams putting up legit offers because of this. The issue is the bad teams (Twolves let's say) have shown time and time again they aren't logical. Hell you've definitely seen Washington showcase this masterfully this offseason. I can almost guarantee you that there have been at least some of these types of teams who have called despite knowing the risks.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Your argument makes logical sense and assumes there aren't other teams putting up legit offers because of this. The issue is the bad teams (Twolves let's say) have shown time and time again they aren't logical. Hell you've definitely seen Washington showcase this masterfully this offseason. I can almost guarantee you that there have been at least some of these types of teams who have called despite knowing the risks.
For Washington the origin of the problem was giving Beal a no-trade clause and then deciding that they wanted to trade him. They were set up to get a ham sandwich and ended up with that and maybe a pickle on the side. If they didn't decide to trade Beal they wouldn't have had to accept those returns. Really nothing about how Beal dealt with them was unfair.

Lillaird on the other hand is asking to be moved. I don't know if he had told the Blazers that he refused to play for them or how severely his agent threatens unwanted teams behind the scenes but if he's willing to quit on a team like Leonard, Harden, Simmons and (a long time ago) Vibe Carter have shown a player can quit on a team then he will eventually have his way. Even Minnesota isn't going to deal for him off his agent tells them he won't play.

[Axe]

Kawhi was pretty public about not wanting to go to Toronto...we all know how that turned out
It was one of the best things that happened in the league before covid. Made the dubs pay for what happened to him in 2017.

[coin24]

Other teams won't bid anything valuable if Lillard refuses to play for them. It doesn't matter if he has a no-trade clause or not.

He can’t just refuse to play.. for 4 more years:lol:facepalm