CP3 To Warriors

[DMAVS41]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671959234701828106

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ESPN Sources: The Washington Wizards are finalizing a deal to send Chris Paul to the Golden State Warriors for a package that includes Jordan Poole and future draft assets.

[FultzNationRISE]

:lebronamazed:

[dazzer87]

old ass cp0…:roll: Guess they are keeping Green….:lol

[Manny98]

Got rid of the cancer, addition by subtraction!

CP3 off the bench for 20-25 minutes a night would be insane for them

[bison]

I see...

[SouBeachTalents]

Getting rid of Poole alone makes this worth it.

[tontoz]

"draft assets" ie more 2nd round picks :facepalm

[dazzer87]

Getting rid of Poole is one thing but getting back a wash up loser cp0 @ 30 Million….Light Years…..:lol

[tontoz]

So we get a 2030 protected 1st rounder :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

"draft assets" ie more 2nd round picks :facepalm

2030 first rounder and 2027 second.

[Im Still Ballin]

Interesting.

[DMAVS41]

So we get a 2030 protected 1st rounder :facepalm

Why is that bad?

What am I missing?

[Wardell Curry]

Man even though Draymond punched him that makes it pretty clear the Warriors organization blamed Poole for his attitude and play last year.

[L.Kizzle]

Man even though Draymond punched him that makes it pretty clear the Warriors organization blamed Poole for his attitude and play last year.

He got traded for his shi tty play nothing more, nothing less.

[tontoz]

Why is that bad?

What am I missing?

That's 7 years away. I was hoping for something a bit sooner.

I definitely won't be watching any games next year with Poole on the team.

[DMAVS41]

That's 7 years away. I was hoping for something a bit sooner.

I definitely won't be watching any games next year with Poole on the team.

Oh, I see.

Well, this is the tanking you guys wanted. I certainly don't think this has been optimal, but overall you must be satisfied...right?

They are finally rebuilding...they turned KP/Beal into multiple future assets. Poole himself could be a future asset in a couple years imo...and you are still going to have a ton of cap space next summer.

The problem for the Wizards....is that Tyus Jones is awesome and Tyus/Poole might be a good enough combo to win too many regular season games.

[JohnMax]

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[BigKobeFan]

That's 7 years away. I was hoping for something a bit sooner.

I definitely won't be watching any games next year with Poole on the team.

That draft pick 7 years away won't be a championship team draft pick.

[tontoz]

Oh, I see.

Well, this is the tanking you guys wanted. I certainly don't think this has been optimal, but overall you must be satisfied...right?

They are finally rebuilding...they turned KP/Beal into multiple future assets. Poole himself could be a future asset in a couple years imo...and you are still going to have a ton of cap space next summer.


Trading our two best players without getting a first round pick doesn't impress me. At least we got one first by taking on a horrible contract.

[Im Still Ballin]

I like this. Do they start Paul and Curry together? You definitely stagger them as Houston did with Harden and CP3. It might present some defensive issues but the positives might outweigh the negatives.

[RRR3]

That's 7 years away. I was hoping for something a bit sooner.

definitely won't be watching any games next year with Poole on the team.
Yes you will stop fronting.

[Proctor]

Gun to my head I don't know which one of those f*kkits I'd rather have on my team.

[DMAVS41]

Trading our two best players without getting a first round pick doesn't impress me. At least we got one first by taking on a horrible contract.

That is kind of a weird way to look at it. You only had Paul from the Beal trade...it basically is just a 3 team deal now...and you got a first back by taking on Poole's salary. I agree that this move is a bit odd as they could have gone down a different path it seems with Beal/Heat. But, honestly, Poole isn't a "horrible contract" in the long term. In a year or two...I bet it has positive value.

Tyus Jones is worth a first as well. My worry would be that Jones/Poole is good enough to win too many games. If I'm the Wizards...I'm taking on some bad salary and getting another first for Jones.

Again, not optimal...but considering you wanted Beal to walk for nothing...I think this return with only paying Beal 1 year...seems better.

[NBAGOAT]

Trading our two best players without getting a first round pick doesn't impress me. At least we got one first by taking on a horrible contract.

6 2nds and 4 swaps isnt terrible for the situation

[DMAVS41]

That is kind of a weird way to look at it. You only had Paul from the Beal trade...it basically is just a 3 team deal now...and you got a first back by taking on Poole's salary. I agree that this move is a bit odd as they could have gone down a different path it seems with Beal/Heat. But, honestly, Poole isn't a "horrible contract" in the long term. In a year or two...I bet it has positive value.

Tyus Jones is worth a first as well. My worry would be that Jones/Poole is good enough to win too many games. If I'm the Wizards...I'm taking on some bad salary and getting another first for Jones.

Again, not optimal...but considering you wanted Beal to walk for nothing...I think this return with only paying Beal 1 year...seems better.

WOJ just released the details of the Suns trade with Beal. It is 6 2nd rounders and 4 first round pick swaps.

[tontoz]

Yes you will stop fronting.

I didn't watch any this year after november. I enjoyed this season a lot more watching other teams.

[highwhey]

6 2nds and 4 swaps isnt terrible for the situation

how is swapping 4 1st round picks with a contending team good for the wiz? srs question bc i'm trying not to get excited over this since there seems to be a catch of some sort idk?

[DMAVS41]

6 2nds and 4 swaps isnt terrible for the situation

Exactly.

They got a first, 4 pick swaps, 6 2nd rounders, and more cap space after you include the Paul portion.

Taking on Poole's money is the exact type of thing they should do. His contract is not that bad and will be easily moved in a couple years if need be. I'd bet, not a lot, but if I had to...that his contract will have slightly positive value in 2 years.

[DMAVS41]

how is swapping 4 1st round picks with a contending team good for the wiz? srs question bc i'm trying not to get excited over this since there seems to be a catch of some sort idk?

The swaps are in 24/26/28/30.

With how fast things change in the NBA...the Suns could be a lottery team in 2 of those years.

[tontoz]

WOJ just released the details of the Suns trade with Beal. It is 6 2nd rounders and 4 first round pick swaps.

That looks better but the 2028 pick swap is for the lowest pick among 3 picks the suns have.

[NBAGOAT]

how is swapping 4 1st round picks with a contending team good for the wiz? srs question bc i'm trying not to get excited over this since there seems to be a catch of some sort idk?

you can trade the swaps for future 1st rounders. someone on reddit mentioned how denver needs to first round picks to build out their bench. They would use the swap and trade 1st rders way in the future that wont help this core. wizards get a future better 1st

[highwhey]

The swaps are in 24/26/28/30.

With how fast things change in the NBA...the Suns could be a lottery team in 2 of those years.


you can trade the swaps for future 1st rounders. someone on reddit mentioned how denver needs to first round picks to build out their bench. They would use the swap and trade 1st rders way in the future that wont help this core. wizards get a future better 1st

gotcha. that makes sense...still like the odds, but i'm more of a gambling man than i'd like to admit.

[Wardell Curry]

The swaps are in 24/26/28/30.

With how fast things change in the NBA...the Suns could be a lottery team in 2 of those years.

The Suns could realistically be lottery teams in 3 of those years. 24 is very unlikely though.

[NBAGOAT]

gotcha. that makes sense...still like the odds, but i'm more of a gambling man than i'd like to admit.

tbf i should add you have to trade the pick too. Idea is wizards are in asset collection mode so they'll have 1sts from other teams to make selections in those years' drafts. They can trade the pick for a 1st later.

[DMAVS41]

gotcha. that makes sense...still like the odds, but i'm more of a gambling man than i'd like to admit.

It is a situation where both teams get what they want. Suns won't give a shit if they win two titles and then have to give up the 3rd pick in the 2030 draft.

And the Wizards need nothing in the short term and if they luck into a high pick in 30, for example, it could be the difference between being a solid playoff team or a contender in the future.

Do I love the Beal trade from an optimal view? No, I think they could have likely done better at the deadline...but what amounts to now...a first for paul, 6 2nd rounders, 4 pick swaps, and like 15 million extra in cap per year after taking on Poole. It's way better than people are acting like.

In addition, Poole could regenerate his value over the next couple years. He just turned 24...I wouldn't write him off like he's a lost cause.

[Xiao Yao You]

good pickup for the Warriors. Not sure getting older is the answer but that's a lot of talent. Paul should fit right in. I'd think he comes off the bench at this stage at least to start the season.

[highwhey]

It is a situation where both teams get what they want. Suns won't give a shit if they win two titles and then have to give up the 3rd pick in the 2030 draft.

And the Wizards need nothing in the short term and if they luck into a high pick in 30, for example, it could be the difference between being a solid playoff team or a contender in the future.

Do I love the Beal trade from an optimal view? No, I think they could have likely done better at the deadline...but what amounts to now...a first for paul, 6 2nd rounders, 4 pick swaps, and like 15 million extra in cap per year after taking on Poole. It's way better than people are acting like.

In addition, Poole could regenerate his value over the next couple years. He just turned 24...I wouldn't write him off like he's a lost cause.

big if. suns still need to fill out their roster with more talent.

[SaltyMeatballs]

CP3 and Curry on the same team lol

[Kblaze8855]

Trading our two best players without getting a first round pick doesn't impress me. At least we got one first by taking on a horrible contract.

You’re such a negative fan sometimes. The most Poole will make on that contract is 34 million 4 years from now against what’s likely to be a 140+ million dollar salary FLOOR. Not cap. Floor. You don’t currently even have anyone else on the books for that season. There is literally nothing you could pay anyone and have it be a problem. You’re gonna have to pay a huge bonus end of the season to guys barely hanging onto a roster spot if you don’t add several big contracts by then. You do not have the option to pay nobody. You’re going to pay a roster more than the Curry/Durant warriors even if it’s 15 scrubs. The cap is already too high for these talks over a 27 million dollar player.

You might well and up having to pay Poole more than his contract, because you won’t make the minimum allowed salary just having your draft picks from here to there and keeping some of your youth. Someone is obviously about to get inflated stats from playing on an empty roster and you can over pay them, but you’re going to have to pay a lot of money to somebody no matter what you do. It’s just a matter of if you pay new players, or pay existing players the roster bonus at the end of the year.

Without the Beal, KP, and Kuzma contracts you guys are probably just using Poole as cap filler to not have to write an unimaginable check end of the next few years.

[BallsOut]

Curry | Paul
Klay | Payton II
Wiggins | ??
Draymond | ??
Looney | ??

Warriors could use more bigs like Howard and Cousins.

[Spurs m8]

I didn't watch much last season, can someone please give me a quick run down of why Poole was THAT bad?

[tontoz]

You’re such a negative fan sometimes. The most Poole will make on that contract is 34 million 4 years from now against what’s likely to be a 140+ million dollar salary FLOOR. Not cap. Floor. You don’t currently even have anyone else on the books for that season. There is literally nothing you could pay anyone and have it be a problem. You’re gonna have to pay a huge bonus end of the season to guys barely hanging onto a roster spot if you don’t add several big contracts by then. You do not have the option to pay nobody. You’re going to pay a roster more than the Curry/Durant warriors even if it’s 15 scrubs. The cap is already too high for these talks over a 27 million dollar player.

You might well and up having to pay Poole more than his contract, because you won’t make the minimum allowed salary just having your draft picks from here to there and keeping some of your youth. Someone is obviously about to get inflated stats from playing on an empty roster and you can over pay them, but you’re going to have to pay a lot of money to somebody no matter what you do. It’s just a matter of if you pay new players, or pay existing players the roster bonus at the end of the year.

Without the Beal, KP, and Kuzma contracts you guys are probably just using Poole as cap filler to not have to write an unimaginable check end of the next few years.


Hard to be a Wizards fan for any length of time without being negative.

It was painful to watch him on the Warriors. Low IQ chucker who doesn't play D. I have no interest in watching him stat pad on the Wizards. True his contract wont hurt them but that doesn't change the fact that it is a bad contract which is why GS had to give up a 1st to get rid of him.

Ironically the non-wizards teams I've followed the most in recent years are the Warriors and Nuggets who won the last two titles. That has certainly been fun.

[tpols]

Will be interesting... cp3 is the floor general they never had. And dont mention ****ing dray. :oldlol: Paul could dime on a bad or good team.

Just rest him for the playoffs and let him play 30-40 regular season games.

[hold this L]

Hammy, time to get back on ish and join the party.

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[hold this L]

I didn't watch much last season, can someone please give me a quick run down of why Poole was THAT bad?
Was one of the 5 worst defenders in the entire league. Not only did he not give any effort on that end, but he also just fouled players to pretend he's "trying". The worst 4th quarter player in the entire league, lost many games with braindead mistakes. His shooting fell off a cliff, a 20% TS drop in the playoffs vs the previous season. Was also I think 3rd in TOs in the RS despite coming off the bench.

Just a legendary shit season.

[DMAVS41]

You’re such a negative fan sometimes. The most Poole will make on that contract is 34 million 4 years from now against what’s likely to be a 140+ million dollar salary FLOOR. Not cap. Floor. You don’t currently even have anyone else on the books for that season. There is literally nothing you could pay anyone and have it be a problem. You’re gonna have to pay a huge bonus end of the season to guys barely hanging onto a roster spot if you don’t add several big contracts by then. You do not have the option to pay nobody. You’re going to pay a roster more than the Curry/Durant warriors even if it’s 15 scrubs. The cap is already too high for these talks over a 27 million dollar player.

You might well and up having to pay Poole more than his contract, because you won’t make the minimum allowed salary just having your draft picks from here to there and keeping some of your youth. Someone is obviously about to get inflated stats from playing on an empty roster and you can over pay them, but you’re going to have to pay a lot of money to somebody no matter what you do. It’s just a matter of if you pay new players, or pay existing players the roster bonus at the end of the year.

Without the Beal, KP, and Kuzma contracts you guys are probably just using Poole as cap filler to not have to write an unimaginable check end of the next few years.

Based on what we know...

Beal was ultimately traded for a first rounder, Jordan Poole, 6 2nd rounders, 4 pick swaps, and Shamet...the Wizards also now have enough cap, as you point out, to do anything they want over the next few years.

They also got Tyus Jones, a really damn good player, on the last year of a great contract...and he most definitely can be flipped for a first rounder if the Wizards take back some salary this year.

Poole, imo, is absolutely not a horrible contract and has a real chance to have positive value in a couple years.

Was this whole process since last year perfect? Of course not, but they moved Beal easily...for some tangible benefits and opened up a ton of cap...and have the 8th pick in the draft tonight.

Sometimes...nothing will please a fan.

[HylianNightmare]

Doesn't make le the warriors worse. Love it

[tontoz]

I am definitely glad the Wizards stepped off the treadmill and committed to rebuilding for the first time in decades. I just don't like Poole as a player and don't want him on the Wizards.

[Axe]

I am definitely glad the Wizards stepped off the treadmill and committed to rebuilding for the first time in decades. I just don't like Poole as a player and don't want him on the Wizards.
Lol

[Kblaze8855]

I am definitely glad the Wizards stepped off the treadmill and committed to rebuilding for the first time in decades. I just don't like Poole as a player and don't want him on the Wizards.


So you don’t want to win but you don’t want them to employ players you consider bad?



Who exactly are they supposed to pay this 120 salary floor to? Sign six or 7 Gleaguers and pay them 15 million each at the end of the year? You seem to be against the idea of spending money on nothing while also kind of not wanting them to have players who make enough money to avoid spending money on nothing.

Poole is about the kinda guy for that plan. Young guy on a contract small enough to not matter you know can probably score 25 a game. You just see if you get this develop into somebody who can score a 25 you won’t be annoyed by.

he takes absolutely nothing from your team. Plus you were essentially just bought by oil money. Get you a few lottery picks and in a few years they may ok Poole getting an extension to be a 6th man on another “**** that tax….” lineup of stars. I doubt he’s the long term plan as the man.

[Spurs m8]

Was one of the 5 worst defenders in the entire league. Not only did he not give any effort on that end, but he also just fouled players to pretend he's "trying". The worst 4th quarter player in the entire league, lost many games with braindead mistakes. His shooting fell off a cliff, a 20% TS drop in the playoffs vs the previous season. Was also I think 3rd in TOs in the RS despite coming off the bench.

Just a legendary shit season.

Thanks, mate

[DMAVS41]

So you don’t want to win but you don’t want them to employ players you consider bad?



Who exactly are they supposed to pay this 120 salary floor to? Sign six or 7 Gleaguers and pay them 15 million each at the end of the year? You seem to be against the idea of spending money on nothing while also kind of not wanting them to have players who make enough money to avoid spending money on nothing.

Poole is about the kinda guy for that plan. Young guy on a contract small enough to not matter you know can probably score 25 a game. You just see if you get this develop into somebody who can score a 25 you won’t be annoyed by.

he takes absolutely nothing from your team. Plus you were essentially just bought by oil money. Get you a few lottery picks and in a few years they may ok Poole getting an extension to be a 6th man on another “**** that tax….” lineup of stars. I doubt he’s the long term plan as the man.

And if they keep Tyus Jones...you might see Wizards fans complaining that they are winning too much.

If Jordan Poole isn't good enough to play for a team not trying to win...on a contract that is a complete nothing burger yet again...then there is just no satisfying any fans on teams that aren't title contenders.

[tontoz]

Some on the wizards board are actually high on Ryan Rollins who was apparently included in the trade. I hadn't even heard of him but apparently he was showing out in the g league before getting hurt.

[tontoz]

That 2030 1st round pick from the warriors is top 20 protected. :oldlol:

[Jasper]

Got rid of the cancer, addition by subtraction!

CP3 off the bench for 20-25 minutes a night would be insane for them

This thread little legs .. for one of the biggest breaking news stories during draft night.

First off Poole is not a 'weak' link ... if he is coached right he can board 6 , dime 6 and score 20 .
It is his alpha long shooting prowls that make people wither

CP3 just needs less minutes , and him playing along side Curry will make him look like a genius..
I expect 10 minutes or more he will be on the floor with out Curry , but watch out when they are both on.
Great pickup for Warriors.

[warriorfan]

That 2030 1st round pick from the warriors is top 20 protected. :oldlol:

game changer!!!!

:roll:

[DMAVS41]

game changer!!!!

:roll:

You just can't help yourself.

Pretty big considering we were told he was on a suicidal contract that would return nothing. Takes a special kind of dumb bitch to claim a player is on a negative value contract, then pivot to..."but the positive return isn't great" while trying to take a victory lap.

Like I said before...you are too weak to admit you were dead wrong...and watching you melt has been everything I imagined.

:banana:

[warriorfan]

You just can't help yourself.

Pretty big considering we were told he was on a suicidal contract that would return nothing. Takes a special kind of dumb bitch to claim a player is on a negative value contract, then pivot to..."but the positive return isn't great" while trying to take a victory lap.

Like I said before...you are too weak to admit you were dead wrong...and watching you melt has been everything I imagined.

:banana:

ok isiah

lmfaoooo

[Lebron23]

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[Jasper]

I said it las t season and I will say it again... Green is not the answer.

They need a legit center like Plumlee that can hang tight in the paint , board and defense.

Can have 4 prime CP3's still won't happen.
Need a center