Draymond Green on Lebron James game 1

[Nike D'Antoni]

"LeBron is playing a totally different style...It's just not your typical LeBron running the show...which is a bit weird."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653798709292056576

[bison]

we are finally getting the version of lebron we should have had when he first signed with the lakers: an off ball wing playing second fiddle to Ingram, and then eventually AD. Unfortunately a combination of injuries and Lebron's own greed resulted in Lebron still being a ball dominating quarterback resulting in a losing offensive style leading us to three lottery appearances. Now with D'Lo, Austin and AD running the show, with lebron as a servicable fourth option, our offense is fast paced and dominating. We look like legit contenders now.

[ArbitraryWater]

we are finally getting the version of lebron we should have had when he first signed with the lakers: an off ball wing playing second fiddle to Ingram, and then eventually AD. Unfortunately a combination of injuries and Lebron's own greed resulted in Lebron still being a ball dominating quarterback resulting in a losing offensive style leading us to three lottery appearances. Now with D'Lo, Austin and AD running the show, with lebron as a servicable fourth option, our offense is fast paced and dominating. We look like legit contenders now.

are you retarded?

This would have resulted in an epic fail of a team.

AD for the most part has not been healthy or capable enough to lead the team.

And second fiddle to Ingram? You deserve a slap for this retardation.

[Full Court]

are you retarded?

This would have resulted in an epic fail of a team.

AD for the most part has not been healthy or capable enough to lead the team.

And second fiddle to Ingram? You deserve a slap for this retardation.

He is retarded, but he's actually right about this one. It's what I was saying all season. If Bronie can accept his role as fourth option, the Lakers might get somewhere. He's still chucking up way too many shots, but the Lakers have enough offensive firepower to compensate.

[Jay-B]

2nd fiddle to Ingram :roll: when he was still only 33 and dominate as ever :roll:

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron used to be able to hit his turbo button for a game..then a half.. then a quarter... now at 38 he can give you 2 plays a quarter. Defensively he's been better though

[ArbitraryWater]

Lebron used to be able to hit his turbo button for a game..then a half.. then a quarter... now at 38 he can give you 2 plays a quarter. Defensively he's been better though

lmao damn thats tuff

[Kblaze8855]

He is retarded, but he's actually right about this one. It's what I was saying all season. If Bronie can accept his role as fourth option


You really are either one of the worst trolls or biggest idiots I’ve ever seen when you talk about that guy. I assume it’s just bad trolling because I don’t generally think of you as stupid. You’re way too emotionally invested into that man if your perspective is warped enough to believe shit like that.I keep thinking it must be trolling. But you keep saying it. In such a serious way. I don’t know.

[SouBeachTalents]

You really are either one of the worst trolls are biggest idiots I’ve ever seen when you talk about that guy. I assume it’s just bad trolling because I don’t generally think of you as stupid. You’re way too emotionally invested into that man if your perspective is warped enough to believe shit like that.I keep thinking it must be trolling. But you keep saying it. In such a serious way. I don’t know.
He just says anything he wants regardless of if it's true or not. He's posted probably a hundred times LeBron's the biggest choker in the history of the league, although personally, I think the 4 FMVP's would dispute that. He was even just claiming LeBron played as well as Dillon Brooks last series :lol He just says whatever he wants and doesn't care how factually wrong or idiotic it is.

[8Ball]

You really are either one of the worst trolls are biggest idiots I’ve ever seen when you talk about that guy. I assume it’s just bad trolling because I don’t generally think of you as stupid. You’re way too emotionally invested into that man if your perspective is warped enough to believe shit like that.I keep thinking it must be trolling. But you keep saying it. In such a serious way. I don’t know.

Kblaze,


When the guy repeatedly shows you how full of shit his brain is you have to assume its full of shit.

In what world is he not stupid? The worst troll in the world is stupid by definition.

[8Ball]

He just says anything he wants regardless of if it's true or not. He's posted probably a hundred times LeBron's the biggest choker in the history of the league, although personally, I think the 4 FMVP's would dispute that. He was even just claiming LeBron played as well as Dillon Brooks last series :lol He just says whatever he wants and doesn't care how factually wrong or completely idiotic it is.


Because he is braindead. There a million zombies on this planet cleaning toilets like him for a living that have no other value to provide.

[Wally450]

Full court should just be permanent banned. Doesn’t bring anything to this forum. His constant retardation is tiresome.

[AussieSteve]

we are finally getting the version of lebron we should have had when he first signed with the lakers: an off ball wing playing second fiddle to Ingram, and then eventually AD. Unfortunately a combination of injuries and Lebron's own greed resulted in Lebron still being a ball dominating quarterback resulting in a losing offensive style leading us to three lottery appearances. Now with D'Lo, Austin and AD running the show, with lebron as a servicable fourth option, our offense is fast paced and dominating. We look like legit contenders now.

Dude. The Lakers won a championship with LeBron FMVP. It's been injuries and a terrible supporting cast that has derailed them in other seasons. Not Lebron's ball dominance.

[8Ball]

we are finally getting the version of lebron we should have had when he first signed with the lakers: an off ball wing playing second fiddle to Ingram, and then eventually AD. Unfortunately a combination of injuries and Lebron's own greed resulted in Lebron still being a ball dominating quarterback resulting in a losing offensive style leading us to three lottery appearances. Now with D'Lo, Austin and AD running the show, with lebron as a servicable fourth option, our offense is fast paced and dominating. We look like legit contenders now.

You arent even a laker fan. Fake.


Lakers won a chip in 2020 and you cried in disappointment the night it happened.

[Axe]

You really are either one of the worst trolls are biggest idiots I’ve ever seen when you talk about that guy. I assume it’s just bad trolling because I don’t generally think of you as stupid. You’re way too emotionally invested into that man if your perspective is warped enough to believe shit like that.I keep thinking it must be trolling. But you keep saying it. In such a serious way. I don’t know.
Word.

[Full Court]

You really are either one of the worst trolls are biggest idiots I’ve ever seen when you talk about that guy. I assume it’s just bad trolling because I don’t generally think of you as stupid. You’re way too emotionally invested into that man if your perspective is warped enough to believe shit like that.I keep thinking it must be trolling. But you keep saying it. In such a serious way. I don’t know.

That shouldn't even be a controversial statement I made. Lebron used to be one of the best in the league. He's not anymore. Not even close. He throws a monkey wrench in the Lakers' defense when he's on the floor. If he could conistently carry the scoring load, it wouldn't be a huge problem, but he doesn't have the endurance for that anymore. He'll have a great scoring game here and there, but he's really only good as lead scorer for 1-2 quarters. In the 7 playoff games so far, he's below 20% from three with 7 attempts per game.

For most of the season he was trying to be the main guy, and as you all saw, the Lakers couldn't even hit .500. The offense should be going through AD primarily, Reaves and Russell next, and then Lebron (with limited minutes due to his lack of endurance). He's taken a big step back lately, and the Lakers are looking unbeatable.

So what part of my statement about him being in a 4th option role do you disagree with?

[r15mohd]

That shouldn't even be a controversial statement I made. Lebron used to be one of the best in the league. He's not anymore. Not even close. He throws a monkey wrench in the Lakers' defense when he's on the floor. If he could conistently carry the scoring load, it wouldn't be a huge problem, but he doesn't have the endurance for that anymore. He'll have a great scoring game here and there, but he's really only good as lead scorer for 1-2 quarters. In the 7 playoff games so far, he's below 20% from three with 7 attempts per game.

For most of the season he was trying to be the main guy, and as you all saw, the Lakers couldn't even hit .500. The offense should be going through AD primarily, Reaves and Russell next, and then Lebron (with limited minutes due to his lack of endurance). He's taken a big step back lately, and the Lakers are looking unbeatable.

So what part of my statement about him being in a 4th option role do you disagree with?

him being 4th option...it's a blatant dumb take

he's anywhere between 1b and 2 when AD is healthy...to think otherwise just shows your bias/agenda, and overall dumbfounded view on bball. you've already been proven wrong on the win/loss scenario with Lebron, a rebuttal you refuse to respond to. And to think him shooting 3pt is a sole reason for his diminished value is just another dumb take when the rest of his game basically has spoken for itself, and which just lead them past memphis a week back.

[3ba11]

we are finally getting the version of lebron we should have had when he first signed with the lakers: an off ball wing playing second fiddle to Ingram, and then eventually AD. Unfortunately a combination of injuries and Lebron's own greed resulted in Lebron still being a ball dominating quarterback resulting in a losing offensive style leading us to three lottery appearances. Now with D'Lo, Austin and AD running the show, with lebron as a servicable fourth option, our offense is fast paced and dominating. We look like legit contenders now.


Off-ball players don't have to be 2nd fiddle.. Lebron simply isn't capable of being dominant as an off-ball player like MJ or Curry (the greatest 2-point and 3-point jumpshooters, respectively).. If Lebron could average 30-35 as an off-ball player like Curry or MJ, these Lakers would be 3-peat champions - that's what Curry or MJ would do with this team and MJ would obviously do a lot better than that with a Jeff Bezos version of Pippen (AD) - basically a Kareem-like dominator

[Kblaze8855]

Kblaze,


When the guy repeatedly shows you how full of shit his brain is you have to assume its full of shit.

In what world is he not stupid? The worst troll in the world is stupid by definition.



i’ve realized what the problem is. I always give a longer leash to the anti-LeBron side as far as assuming they’re stupid when they behave that way and the reason is they’re usually closer to me in age and personality. Most big-time LeBron haters are going to be older than his biggest fans. They’re people I generally feel like I might see eye to eye with just talking ball. Shared experiences and all. If I can talk to you about Dale Davis I feel like we can have a beer and see roughly eye to eye about the game.

Plus, once I get away from here, my main group of friends, most young people and most of my former coworkers think I hate LeBron. I don’t but like I said, I think there are some shared opinions with certain age groups.

I go in assuming the stupid takes are just playing around for a reaction. Trolling. And it takes me a while to accept that it isn’t. I see somebody who is clearly on the younger side acting an idiot I immediately assume he’s either trolling or just ignorant from lack of experience and doesn’t know better.

Long story short I probably emphasize more with the anti Lebron movement it just doesn’t reach a point I think absurd shit like he needs to be a role player or that the biggest choker ever could have 4 finals mvps and the most playoff game winners on record.

Faced with arguments being made by a “kid” and someone I would likely be more similar to I just give the older side the benefit more than I likely should. I don’t even speak to the worst pro Lebron trolls because I don’t consider them real people worth interacting with. But full court is really turning into that ln the other side. As is Spurs/Derozan/whatever he is now. I just kinda…give it a longer leash due to my own biases.

I feel good that I can acknowledge it though. Let’s me know I still have some perspective.

[Full Court]

him being 4th option...it's a blatant dumb take

he's anywhere between 1b and 2 when AD is healthy...to think otherwise just shows your bias/agenda, and overall dumbfounded view on bball. you've already been proven wrong on the win/loss scenario with Lebron, a rebuttal you refuse to respond to. And to think him shooting 3pt is a sole reason for his diminished value is just another dumb take when the rest of his game basically has spoken for itself, and which just lead them past memphis a week back.

Wrong. As soon as he got "injured" I said the Lakers were a lock for the playoffs. As usual, I was spot on.

[1987_Lakers]

Wrong. As soon as he got "injured" I said the Lakers were a lock for the playoffs. As usual, I was spot on.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?510654-List-of-superstars-who-led-a-superteam-to-the-lottery

[Axe]

i’ve realized what the problem is. I always give a longer leash to the anti-LeBron side as far as assuming they’re stupid when they behave that way and the reason is they’re usually closer to me in age and personality. Most big-time LeBron haters are going to be older than his biggest fans. They’re people I generally feel like I might see eye to eye with just talking ball. Shared experiences and all. If I can talk to you about Dale Davis I feel like we can have a beer and see roughly eye to eye about the game.

Plus, once I get away from here, my main group of friends, most young people and most of my former coworkers think I hate LeBron. I don’t but like I said, I think there are some shared opinions with certain age groups.

I go in assuming the stupid takes are just playing around for a reaction. Trolling. And it takes me a while to accept that it isn’t. I see somebody who is clearly on the younger side acting an idiot I immediately assume he’s either trolling or just ignorant from lack of experience and doesn’t know better.

Long story short I probably emphasize more with the anti Lebron movement it just doesn’t reach a point I think absurd shit like he needs to be a role player or that the biggest choker ever could have 4 finals mvps and the most playoff game winners on record.

Faced with arguments being made by a “kid” and someone I would likely be more similar to I just give the older side the benefit more than I likely should. I don’t even speak to the worst pro Lebron trolls because I don’t consider them real people worth interacting with. But full court is really turning into that ln the other side. As is Spurs/Derozan/whatever he is now. I just kinda…give it a longer leash due to my own biases.

I feel good that I can acknowledge it though. Let’s me know I still have some perspective.
Some of the notorious retards here just can't control their weird, childish obsession lmao. Or are very incompetent at doing so.

[kawhileonard2]

Wrong. As soon as he got "injured" I said the Lakers were a lock for the playoffs. As usual, I was spot on.

This. Should have stayed with lineup that had at beginning part of season. No changes.

[ImKobe]

You really are either one of the worst trolls or biggest idiots I’ve ever seen when you talk about that guy. I assume it’s just bad trolling because I don’t generally think of you as stupid. You’re way too emotionally invested into that man if your perspective is warped enough to believe shit like that.I keep thinking it must be trolling. But you keep saying it. In such a serious way. I don’t know.

He's obviously exaggerating for comedic effect but Bran has really fallen off as a scorer because he can't get past anyone, and he's lost his ability to make 3s, so outside of transition he's not really getting to the basket that often vs. good defenses. He's putting up 22 a game on 52.9%TS in these Playoffs. He hasn't scored 30+ in the POs since Game 5 against Miami in the 2020 Finals which was 14 Playoff games ago.

He's still the best at cherry-picking easy baskets and Ham is running him at the 5 with the 2nd unit so he has spacing around him in those minutes and finds guys he can take to the rim but he's no longer the player you think he is and even some of his biggest stans on this site have been pointing that out for the past 2 years.

[And1AllDay]

we are finally getting the version of lebron we should have had when he first signed with the lakers: an off ball wing playing second fiddle to Ingram, and then eventually AD. Unfortunately a combination of injuries and Lebron's own greed resulted in Lebron still being a ball dominating quarterback resulting in a losing offensive style leading us to three lottery appearances. Now with D'Lo, Austin and AD running the show, with lebron as a servicable fourth option, our offense is fast paced and dominating. We look like legit contenders now.


come get this fake lakers fan :oldlol:

lil boi musta missed 2020 :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

For one…you have no idea what I think Lebron is because I don’t sit on here in your endless arguments over analyzing everything he does like he’s the center of the world of sports.

Second…I don’t much care where you rank him but if you don’t realize the over the top obsession with every step he takes and shot he makes or misses clouds judgment of him(if only by causing less attention to be paid to his contemporaries) I don’t know what to tell you.

Talking about bullshit like how many consecutive playoff games he didn’t score 30. That’s the kind of shit only investigated and harped on by people too invested. The problem of course isn’t having the information…the problem is only caring about it for one person.

Larry Bird went 31 playoff games in a row without scoring 30. And he wasn’t 38. He was in his prime. Should that mean something to me? Because it doesn’t. If anyone cared to nitpick every aspect of anyone else’s lives and performance you’d find a million things to bitch about. It wouldn’t make your points worth considering because you wouldn’t have put a tenth that effort into finding other peoples faults. It’s not a comparison. It’s a hit job.

Bunch of obsessed types turning over every rock for ammo nobody normal cares about trying to win a fight vs the other team…that doesn’t even care what your points are.

You’re arguing for kudos from people who will agree with every anti Lebron point no matter how well or poorly made while the other team ignores all of it reading only to reply with drivel if anything and normal people ignore you both.

Nothing from either side is worth listening to because it’s all just the good or the bad. I don’t give two shits what information most of you post about Lebron because it’s slanted so far it’s of no use. If you’re typing his name…or full court…spurs…3ball…or the crazy Lebron is goat trolls…I know what it is.

I don’t need to read it. It’s conclusion is clear just off the name
next to it. Lebron is a 4th option. He’s the best scorer ever. The least clutch. The most. Whatever.

Virtually nobody has an opinion that needs reading to know what side they fall on because most normal people don’t interact with any of you anymore.

It’s the same 12 accounts talking to each other.

[ImKobe]

Fact is that Bran is 38 and in his 20th year. He'll have his moments but he's no longer a high-end scorer who's giving you high 20s/30 ppg on good efficiency like he did in years past.

This decline in Lebron's scoring & efficiency is no fluke. This is what happens when you play as many games & minutes as Lebron has, and he's still probably the best player at his age/mileage we've ever seen. Pointing out that he's no longer capable of carrying the load of a #1 option should not trigger as many people here as it does. He'll have stretches where he looks great but we're not seeing 2020 Lebron ever again. There's always going to be an injury that's going to limit him to an extent.

The only player we've seen close to him with this kind of mileage is Karl Malone, and Malone did not have the Playoff minutes that Bran does and did not play on the perimeter, and even he went from averaging 21/8/5/2 and playing 81 games at age 39 in his last season in Utah to being a role player on the Lakers and retiring after his MCL injury the following year.

[PeroAntic]

You’re arguing for kudos from people who will agree with every anti Lebron point no matter how well or poorly made while the other team ignores all of it reading only to reply with drivel if anything and normal people ignore you both.

Nothing from either side is worth listening to because it’s all just the good or the bad. I don’t give two shits what information most of you post about Lebron because it’s slanted so far it’s of no use. If you’re typing his name…or full court…spurs…3ball…or the crazy Lebron is goat trolls…I know what it is.


He did it... he finally managed to express the most crucial point about this whole issue to absolute perfection. This guy is a treasure lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Wrong. As soon as he got "injured" I said the Lakers were a lock for the playoffs. As usual, I was spot on.

? the new-look post-trade Lakers went 9-7 without LeBron.

9-7.

They went 9-1 with LeBron.


How does reality taste, bud?

[Full Court]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?510654-List-of-superstars-who-led-a-superteam-to-the-lottery

Lol at this clown reposting me being spot on and thinking it somehow discredits me. :roll:

And STILL he can't list any other super star who ever led a super team to the lottery. Not a single one.

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