View Full Version : Build a championship-caliber team without All-Stars
dankok8
02-22-2023, 02:03 PM
Rules for building the team:
- five starters and five bench players
- current and historical players allowed
- no player included can have all-star appearances
SouBeachTalents
02-22-2023, 02:18 PM
I'm sure I'm forgetting some players, but here's what mine would be.
Starters
Derek Harper
Desmond Bane
Mikal Bridges
Toni Kukoc
Arvydas Sabonis
Bench
Marcus Smart
Michael Cooper
OG Anunoby
Lamar Odom
Deandre Ayton
dankok8
02-22-2023, 03:29 PM
I'm sure I'm forgetting some players, but here's what mine would be.
Starters
Derek Harper
Desmond Bane
Mikal Bridges
Toni Kukoc
Arvydas Sabonis
Bench
Marcus Smart
Michael Cooper
OG Anunoby
Lamar Odom
Deandre Ayton
I'd probably start Odom over Kukoc for defense but that team looks like a contender for sure.
HoopsNY
02-22-2023, 07:38 PM
Great thread. I'm thinking something like:
Starters
PG - Rod Strickland
SG - Byron Scott
SF - Cedric Maxwell
PF - Marcus Camby
C - Deandre Ayton
Bench
SG - Michael Cooper
PG - Mike Bibby
SF - Richard Jefferson
PF - Happy Hairston
C - Serge Ibaka
Smook A.
02-22-2023, 07:51 PM
I'm sure I'm forgetting some players, but here's what mine would be.
Starters
Derek Harper
Desmond Bane
Mikal Bridges
Toni Kukoc
Arvydas Sabonis
Bench
Marcus Smart
Michael Cooper
OG Anunoby
Lamar Odom
Deandre Ayton
Solid list. I'd put CJ McCollum over Michael Cooper though
Full Court
02-22-2023, 08:05 PM
I like this thread too. Going with only current players...
Starters:
Jamal Murray
Austin Reaves
Terry Rozier
Deandre Ayton
Evan Mobley
Bench:
Desmond Bane
Jordan Poole
Colin Sexton
Stephen Adams
Ivica Zubac
It's pretty tough to come up with a championship team out of people that have never been an all star. I was going to pick Brook Lopez, but even he made the all star team once. Hard to see the team above winning a championship, but with great chemistry, it's possible. They certainly have depth.
ShawkFactory
02-22-2023, 08:21 PM
I like this thread too. Going with only current players...
Starters:
Jamal Murray
Austin Reaves
Terry Rozier
Deandre Ayton
Evan Mobley
Bench:
Desmond Bane
Jordan Poole
Colin Sexton
Stephen Adams
Ivica Zubac
It's pretty tough to come up with a championship team out of people that have never been an all star. I was going to pick Brook Lopez, but even he made the all star team once. Hard to see the team above winning a championship, but with great chemistry, it's possible. They certainly have depth.
Why is Bane on the bench but Reaves and Rozier are starting? He’s way better than both.
j3lademaster
02-22-2023, 08:34 PM
Why is Bane on the bench but Reaves and Rozier are starting? He’s way better than both.Well, obviously Reeves plays Lebron. No idea about Rozier though.
Full Court
02-22-2023, 09:22 PM
Why is Bane on the bench but Reaves and Rozier are starting? He’s way better than both.
Reaves gives perimeter defense, and Rozier gives some scoring punch. I don't disagree that Bane is better, and I'd be fine swapping him out for Rozier as a starter. I wouldn't say he's way better though.
1987_Lakers
02-22-2023, 09:49 PM
PG: Mike Bibby| Derek Harper
SG: Petrovic | Cooper
SF: Mikal Bridges | Richard Jefferson
PF: Lamar Odom | Sam Perkins
C: Sabonis | Ayton
Something like that.
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2023, 09:50 PM
PG: Mike Conley | Derek Harper
SG: Petrovic | Cooper
SF: Mikal Bridges | Richard Jefferson
PF: Lamar Odom | Sam Perkins
C: Sabonis | Ayton
Something like that.
Conley was an all star. Drazen had to be as well. These teams are struggling to get to the playoffs. They aren't winning anything. Where's Robert Horry?
1987_Lakers
02-22-2023, 09:50 PM
Going with only current players...
Of course you are, we all know you don't know much about the league's history.
1987_Lakers
02-22-2023, 09:51 PM
Conley was an all star. Drazen had to be as well. These teams are struggling to get to the playoffs. They aren't winning anything. Where's Robert Horry?
Yea, forgot he made it a couple of years ago. Petrovic was never an All-star. Probably would have made one, but died pretty young.
I'll go with Mike Bibby to replace Conley. Always loved his clutch play. While the Kings were shitting themselves in that game 7 vs the Lakers in 2002, Bibby was the only player on Sacramento hitting big shots in crunch time.
j3lademaster
02-22-2023, 09:52 PM
Conley was an all star. Drazen had to be as well. These teams are struggling to get to the playoffs. They aren't winning anything. Where's Robert Horry?Drazen wasn't. Very good pick by 87_Lakers. Has an allnba selection but no allstar. Huh, I wonder how many times that's happened in league history.
Full Court
02-22-2023, 09:53 PM
Of course you are, we all know you don't know much about the league's history.
Says the "historian" who didn't know about the Bulls/Pistons rivalry. :roll:
Nice try, Dudley.
As a matter of fact, I think it's more interesting using current players than mixing and matching players from different eras. But keep doing your thing. :applause:
1987_Lakers
02-22-2023, 09:56 PM
Drazen wasn't. Very good pick by 87_Lakers. Has an allnba selection but no allstar. Huh, I wonder how many times that's happened in league history.
:cheers:
Dead eye shooter. Reggie Miller always called him the greatest shooter he ever saw until Curry came along.
I recommend watching "Once Brothers" documentary made by ESPN years back. It covers Divac & Petrovic's relationship. Good stuff.
Full Court
02-22-2023, 10:01 PM
PG: Mike Bibby| Derek Harper
SG: Petrovic | Cooper
SF: Mikal Bridges | Richard Jefferson
PF: Lamar Odom | Sam Perkins
C: Sabonis | Ayton
Something like that.
I guess the "basketball historian" didn't realize that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:roll:
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2023, 10:02 PM
Drazen wasn't. Very good pick by 87_Lakers. Has an allnba selection but no allstar. Huh, I wonder how many times that's happened in league history.
at least a couple of times
SouBeachTalents
02-22-2023, 10:03 PM
I guess the "basketball historian" didn't realize that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:roll:
I'm assuming he meant Arvydas.
1987_Lakers
02-22-2023, 10:06 PM
I guess the "basketball historian" didn't realize that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:roll:
Wow, you are truly a moron. I'm assuming you never heard of Arvydas Sabonis? The dude who beat David Robinson in the '88 Olympics?
We all know why you went with current players. :lol
ArbitraryWater
02-22-2023, 10:19 PM
I like this thread too. Going with only current players...
Starters:
Jamal Murray
Austin Reaves
Terry Rozier
Deandre Ayton
Evan Mobley
Bench:
Desmond Bane
Jordan Poole
Colin Sexton
Stephen Adams
Ivica Zubac
It's pretty tough to come up with a championship team out of people that have never been an all star. I was going to pick Brook Lopez, but even he made the all star team once. Hard to see the team above winning a championship, but with great chemistry, it's possible. They certainly have depth.
:roll::roll::roll:
ArbitraryWater
02-22-2023, 10:20 PM
I guess the "basketball historian" didn't realize that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:roll:
You are seriously the dumbest mother****er to be bred on this board
Full Court
02-22-2023, 10:34 PM
You are seriously the dumbest mother****er to be bred on this board
:lebroncry:
Fragile Bronie fluffer.
Full Court
02-22-2023, 10:35 PM
Wow, you are truly a moron. I'm assuming you never heard of Arvydas Sabonis? The dude who beat David Robinson in the '88 Olympics?
We all know why you went with current players. :lol
Sure you did. That's why you didn't put a first name. :lol
Hey, Tom Brady was never an NBA all star. Why didn't you put him on your team?
:roll:
ShawkFactory
02-22-2023, 10:37 PM
Reaves gives perimeter defense, and Rozier gives some scoring punch. I don't disagree that Bane is better, and I'd be fine swapping him out for Rozier as a starter. I wouldn't say he's way better though.
Bane is a good perimeter defender himself and is a better scorer than both. Far more efficient with it than Rozier and just better in general than Reaves.
theman93
02-22-2023, 11:18 PM
Not using current players..
G - Andre Miller | Damon Stoudemire
G - Jason Richardson | Jason Terry
F - Ron Harper | Doug Christie
F - PJ Brown | Hedo Turkoglu
C - Arvydas Sabonis | Marcus Camby
Wow, you are truly a moron. I'm assuming you never heard of Arvydas Sabonis? The dude who beat David Robinson in the '88 Olympics?
We all know why you went with current players. :lol
You are seriously the dumbest mother****er to be bred on this board
Lol
SaltyMeatballs
02-23-2023, 02:19 AM
Of course you are, we all know you don't know much about the league's history.
:oldlol:
SaltyMeatballs
02-23-2023, 02:22 AM
I guess the "basketball historian" didn't realize that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:roll:
Holy shit you are actually retarded :oldlol: We all know you don't know basketball but this is the 46th icing on the cake
John8204
02-23-2023, 05:14 AM
SG - Drazen Petrovic, JJ Reddick
PG - Mike Bibby, Alex Caruso
PF - Scottie Barnes, Toni Kukoc
SF - Len Bias, Bruce Bowen
C - Mel Daniels, Steven Adams
Johnny32
02-23-2023, 08:48 AM
no such team exist.
MrFonzworth
02-23-2023, 08:52 AM
Trying to use players not yet mentioned:
PG: Tyreke Evans
SG: Larry Hughes
SF: Hedo Turkoglu (or Tayshaun Prince since Hedo was mentioned)
PF: Thaddeus Young
C: Andrew Bogut
Bench:
Jeremy Lin
Leonardo Barbosa
TJ Warren
Tyrus Thomas
Samuel Dalembert
Lou Williams
TJ McConnell
Manute Bol
Johnny32
02-23-2023, 08:52 AM
I guess the "basketball historian" didn't realize that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:roll:
his daddy. old fat guy who could pass. supposedly he wasn't always old and fat when he played overseas.
NBAGOAT
02-23-2023, 09:10 AM
Impossible imo and you have to use guys who played at all star lvl but got snubbed. team will be really good but not winning a title when title teams often have a mvp an all nba guy and 2 other really good starters or just have a super team straight up.
Pretty easy in modern era to create one but wont be realistic salary cap wise either.
Brunson
Bane
Bridges
Gordon
Mobley
Brogdon
White
OG
Grant
Ayton
Xiao Yao You
02-23-2023, 10:02 AM
his daddy. old fat guy who could pass. supposedly he wasn't always old and fat when he played overseas.
he was always great though
Full Court
02-23-2023, 10:42 AM
Holy shit you are actually retarded :oldlol: We all know you don't know basketball but this is the 46th icing on the cake
I sure make you Bronie fluffers mad. :roll:
You should have let your boy Dudley know that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:lebronamazed:
dankok8
02-23-2023, 11:02 AM
I myself would probably go:
PG: Mike Bibby
SG: Drazen Petrovic
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: Lamar Odom
C: Arvydas Sabonis
Bench:
Lou Williams
Desmond Bane
Michael Cooper
Toni Kukoc
Andrew Bogut
Some good teams posted so far! I think a lot of these teams could contend.
1987_Lakers
02-23-2023, 11:09 AM
SG - Drazen Petrovic, JJ Reddick
PG - Mike Bibby, Alex Caruso
PF - Scottie Barnes, Toni Kukoc
SF - Len Bias, Bruce Bowen
C - Mel Daniels, Steven Adams
Why do you always list SG first then go to PG right after? You did this in a few all-time drafts as well. :lol
Xiao Yao You
02-23-2023, 11:12 AM
Why do you always list SG first then go to PG right after? You did this in a few all-time drafts as well. :lol
can't count 1 to 5
Wally450
02-23-2023, 11:39 AM
can't count 1 to 5
Wait, it doesn't go 2,1,4,3,5? :lol
Hey Yo
02-23-2023, 11:41 AM
his daddy. old fat guy who could pass. supposedly he wasn't always old and fat when he played overseas.
Full cuck's obviously never heard of him.
John8204
02-23-2023, 11:48 AM
Why do you always list SG first then go to PG right after? You did this in a few all-time drafts as well. :lol
Because I cut and paste Petrovic's name so I didn't misspell it and it was the last position for me. I'm not sure about the other cases...it's likely because I have to put more thought into SG. But in this case I started with C - Mel Daniels and SF Len Bias and then built the team around them
Full Court
02-23-2023, 05:03 PM
Full cuck's obviously never heard of him.
I've got Bronie fluffers raging every day. :roll:
:lebronamazed:
ArbitraryWater
02-23-2023, 06:23 PM
Full cuck's obviously never heard of him.
:lol
SATAN
02-23-2023, 07:22 PM
Full cuck's obviously never heard of him.
He is so stupid. :oldlol:
SATAN
02-23-2023, 07:23 PM
I myself would probably go:
PG: Mike Bibby
SG: Drazen Petrovic
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: Lamar Odom
C: Arvydas Sabonis
Bench:
Lou Williams
Desmond Bane
Michael Cooper
Toni Kukoc
Andrew Bogut
That is an interesting team.
SaltyMeatballs
02-23-2023, 08:29 PM
I sure make you Bronie fluffers mad. :roll:
You should have let your boy Dudley know that Sabonis made the all star team this year.
:lebronamazed:
:facepalm
Jasper
02-23-2023, 08:35 PM
JOHN COLLINS
TOBIAS HARRIS
CLINT CAPELA
MCcOLLUM
MAXEY
BOGDANOVIC
JAMAL MURREY
JAE CROWDAER
AVERY BRADLEY JR
PJ TUCKER
**All current players
Next list will be retired players
j3lademaster
02-23-2023, 08:43 PM
pg Drazen Petrovic
sg Desmond Bane
sf Ron Harper
pf Lamar Odom
c Sabonis
Reserves: CJ McCollum, Marcus Smart, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Richard Jefferson, Serge Ibaka, Cedric Maxwell
And no, I don't think Ron Harper is better than Richard Jefferson or Maxwell, but he's a better fit playing point forward alongside my guards.
dankok8
02-24-2023, 12:55 AM
pg Drazen Petrovic
sg Desmond Bane
sf Ron Harper
pf Lamar Odom
c Sabonis
Reserves: CJ McCollum, Marcus Smart, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Richard Jefferson, Serge Ibaka, Cedric Maxwell
And no, I don't think Ron Harper is better than Richard Jefferson or Maxwell, but he's a better fit playing point forward alongside my guards.
Abdur-Rahim was an all-star...
Cedric Maxwell is a great pick though. Didn't think of him.
hateraid
02-24-2023, 01:05 AM
Arvydas Sabonis
Marcus Camby
Lamar Odom
Jason Terry
Andre Miller
Cedric Maxwell
Sam Perkins
Clearance Weatherspoon
Rod Strickland
Steve Kerr
Bruce Bowen
SouBeachTalents
02-24-2023, 01:22 AM
Of guys who haven't been taken yet
Brent Barry
Nick Anderson
Mike Miller
Boris Diaw
Myles Turner
Nate McMillan
Danny Green
Robert Covington
Cam Johnson
Robert Williams
Full cuck's obviously never heard of him.
:roll:
ImKobe
02-24-2023, 06:41 AM
Camby
Odom
Hedo
Byron Scott
Rod Strickland
Derek Fisher
Danny Green
Richard Jefferson
Horry
Sam Perkins
Could have cheated & picked some young players from this era but that's too easy.
1987_Lakers
02-24-2023, 12:07 PM
Camby
Odom
Hedo
Byron Scott
Rod Strickland
Derek Fisher
Danny Green
Richard Jefferson
Horry
Sam Perkins
Could have cheated & picked some young players from this era but that's too easy.
Terrible
Side note: I always thought Byron Scott was a little overrated. He constantly shit the bed in the Finals vs Boston, was kinda one dimensional as well. Ainge was a more well rounded player, probably would have seen some people list Ainge in this thread, but he actually made an All-Star team once.
Norm Nixon to me was clearly better than Scott, but Scott gets brought up more when discussing those 80's Lakers for some reason.
Wally450
02-24-2023, 12:14 PM
Starters:
Andre Miller
Kevin Martin
Shane Battier
Lamar Odom
Marcus Camby
Bench:
Mike Bibby
JJ Redick
Richard Jefferson
Serge Ibaka
Rob Williams
Wouldn't work in today's NBA lol
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2023, 05:49 PM
Terrible
Side note: I always thought Byron Scott was a little overrated. He constantly shit the bed in the Finals vs Boston, was kinda one dimensional as well. Ainge was a more well rounded player, probably would have seen some people list Ainge in this thread, but he actually made an All-Star team once.
Norm Nixon to me was clearly better than Scott, but Scott gets brought up more when discussing those 80's Lakers for some reason.
Scott was a better fit with Magic than Nixon was. Nixon was a pg. I always saw Scott not that far behind the highly overrated Worthy myself. No he was no Ainge but another pretty good role player on a loaded team
TAZORAC
02-25-2023, 11:30 PM
PG-VANVLEET
SG-Stojakovic
SF-JAMAL MASHBURN (forgotten player)
PF-Horry
C-Ayton
PG-Terry Porter
SG-Sean Elliot
SF-Rick Fox
PF-Ralph Sampson (WAS BETTER THEN OLJAWON BEFORE THE INJURY)
C-Ric Smit
Xiao Yao You
02-25-2023, 11:32 PM
PG-VANVLEET
SG-Stojakovic
SF-JAMAL MASHBURN (forgotten player)
PF-Horry
C-Ayton
PG-Terry Porter
SG-Sean Elliot
SF-Rick Fox
PF-Ralph Sampson (WAS BETTER THEN OLJAWON BEFORE THE INJURY)
C-Ric Smit
Sampson was all star starter. Peja had to have made a few too, Porter certainly should have if he didn't somehow
SaltyMeatballs
02-25-2023, 11:35 PM
PG-VANVLEET
SG-Stojakovic
SF-JAMAL MASHBURN (forgotten player)
PF-Horry
C-Ayton
PG-Terry Porter
SG-Sean Elliot
SF-Rick Fox
PF-Ralph Sampson (WAS BETTER THEN OLJAWON BEFORE THE INJURY)
C-Ric Smit
All the guys in bold were all-stars at least once you idiot
Full Court
02-25-2023, 11:59 PM
All the guys in bold were all-stars at least once you idiot
Guess what, Mouseballs...
So was Sabonis. :roll::roll:
TAZORAC
02-26-2023, 12:16 AM
Just want to throw out there that Haliburton is the best non-allstar player in the NBA
Full Court
02-26-2023, 12:23 AM
Just want to throw out there that Haliburton is the best non-allstar player in the NBA
Nah, I'm going to have to go with Kevin Durant.
Just want to throw out there that Haliburton is the best non-allstar player in the NBA
He literally played in the all-star game a few days ago
1987_Lakers
02-26-2023, 02:09 AM
Scott was a better fit with Magic than Nixon was. Nixon was a pg. I always saw Scott not that far behind the highly overrated Worthy myself. No he was no Ainge but another pretty good role player on a loaded team
I 100% agree that Scott was a better fit with Magic compared to Nixon, but as a basketball talent, Scott doesn't touch Nixon.
Disagree with you saying Scott wasn't that far behind Worthy. I'm not even that big on Worthy as a player, probably would have been better if we drafted Dominique instead, but you can't deny his overall talent and how much of a big game performer he was. Scott was somewhat of a mental midget in big games, which is why Riley benched him in favor of Cooper ALOT during the final minutes of close playoff games.
ImKobe
02-26-2023, 08:21 AM
Terrible
Side note: I always thought Byron Scott was a little overrated. He constantly shit the bed in the Finals vs Boston, was kinda one dimensional as well. Ainge was a more well rounded player, probably would have seen some people list Ainge in this thread, but he actually made an All-Star team once.
Norm Nixon to me was clearly better than Scott, but Scott gets brought up more when discussing those 80's Lakers for some reason.
Scott led a 62-win team in scoring and played well vs. the Pistons in the Finals.
Walk on Water
02-26-2023, 08:24 AM
PG Andre Miller, Jordan Poole
SG Jason Richardson, Jason Terry, Ron Harper
SF Stephen Jackson, Cedric Maxwell, Corey Maggette
PF Al Harrington, Lamar Odom
C Andrew Bogut, Memet Okhur
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