Longer sustained excellence, LeBron or Jordan?

[Hey Yo]

discuss...

[8Ball]

Everyone knows the answer. Any other response other than BRAN is a troll.

[MrFonzworth]

Depends on how you define excellence. If colluding and losing is your definition, then LeBron. If winning is your definition, it's Jordan.

[Full Court]

Lebron is head of basically everyone in longevity. Everyone knows this. But that's literally all he's got. Jordan still accomplished twice as much in half the time. Bronie just can't measure up, and playing another 10 years STILL won't change that.

[SoyTits]

Lebron is head of basically everyone in longevity. Everyone knows this. But that's literally all he's got. Jordan still accomplished twice as much in half the time. Bronie just can't measure up, and playing another 10 years STILL won't change that.

Ask Madonna pippen accomplished more then Jordon

[fsvr54]

Considering Lebron is not a good basketball player, I'd say Jordan.

[E_Stamkos]

OP would joyfully sacrifice a year's salary just to sniff LeBron's toilet water.

****ing weirdo.

[John_Connor]

longer sustained excellence


barry bonds or lebarry james

[Full Court]

longer sustained excellence


barry bonds or lebarry james

I'd say probably Bonds.

[warriorfan]

Jordan sustained 2 3peats

What did lebron sustain?

[Full Court]

Jordan sustained 2 3peats

What did lebron sustain?

He sustained psychological trauma from Devin Booker.

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan sustained 2 3peats

What did lebron sustain?

4 FVMP

Does Curry have any?

[Shooter]

Well one guy made ten Finals and the other made six.

Also the guy with less Finals had ZERO chance of getting out of the 1st round without Pippen and Phil Jackson so....

Give me the guy with ten.

[warriorfan]

4 FVMP

Does Curry have any?

Are you over 6 feet tall?

[1987_Lakers]

Are you over 6 feet tall?

Yes, but still shorter than your crack pipe.

[Shooter]

Yes, but still shorter than your crack pipe.

:roll: Gottem


I still can't believe that the guy who lives in a literal crack-den, rife with low income housing 1 bedroom 1940s apartments is talking shit. I just don't get it

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[MrFonzworth]

:roll: Gottem


I still can't believe that the guy who lives in a literal crack-den, rife with low income housing 1 bedroom 1940s apartments is talking shit. I just don't get it

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We all agree your life as a diabetic amputee incel is the worst of all:cheers:

[Spurs m8]

Bron never came close to Jordan excellence, so it's apples and oranges.

The 2 will never be compatible because Jordan is a couple of tiers above.

[Shooter]

We all agree your life as a diabetic amputee incel is the worst of all:cheers:

Sucking off Welfare Fan...Yikes. Now we truly kyou're a low life Alaskan rescue mutt when you stoop that low :lol

Pathetic :lol

[Full Court]

Looks like the Bronies are going to spend the whole post season in damage control threads.


Utter. Desperation.

:lebroncry:

[MrFonzworth]

Sucking off Welfare Fan...Yikes. Now we truly kyou're a low life Alaskan rescue mutt when you stoop that low :lol

Pathetic :lol

My post had nothing to do with another poster? Meanwhile you suck off anyone who sucks off lebron, ie 8ball, you're truly a beta of betas:yaohappy:

[8Ball]

OP with another good thread topic.


Even amongst trolls they agree BRAN has higher sustained excellence.

[8Ball]

My post had nothing to do with another poster? Meanwhile you suck off anyone who sucks off lebron, ie 8ball, you're truly a beta of betas:yaohappy:


OP agrees with me often because I am right all the time here.

[Bawkish]

Looks like Bron would have a longer sustained vacation in Cancun in coming years

[kawhileonard2]

Jordan sustained 2 3peats

What did lebron sustain?

This.

Lebron got destroyed by Devin Booker.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

[Baller789]

Well one guy made ten Finals and the other made six.

Also the guy with less Finals had ZERO chance of getting out of the 1st round without Pippen and Phil Jackson so....

Give me the guy with ten.

https://i.ibb.co/fkf3P3K/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/k4jLWLr)

:roll:

[Spurs m8]

https://i.ibb.co/fkf3P3K/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/k4jLWLr)

:roll:

Add to that, that he needed to stack the deck to even achieve literally anything

And when with his stacked deck, he still got embarrassed after he cake walked through his weak Conference

[ImKobe]

Jordan played at a GOAT level from his rookie season to age 35. Bran reached that level in '12 and it only lasted until '18 with some bumps in between.

[Full Court]

^Facts.

Which is why Bronie is fringe top 10 while MJ is #1.

[Baller789]

Add to that, that he needed to stack the deck to even achieve literally anything

And when with his stacked deck, he still got embarrassed after he cake walked through his weak Conference

You know your conference in weak AF when you consistently get obliterated in the finals.

[TheGoatest]

LeBron at the age of 21: All-NBA 1st team, 2nd in MVP voting
jordon at the age of 21: Not considered good enough to be picked over Sam Bowie in the NBA draft

LeBron at the age of 35 and 9 months in the NBA finals: 29.8 ppg on .591, 11.8 rpg, 8.5 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.5 bpg
jordon at the age of 35 and 4 months in the NBA finals: 33.5 ppg on .427, 4.0 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.7 bpg

[Baller789]

https://i.ibb.co/VByzGZ7/giphy.gif (https://imgbb.com/)
:lol

https://i.ibb.co/mTfvtxS/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/2hG8Pb5)

[BarberSchool]

LeFraud, they the use of PED’s, has definitely extended the duration of his own version of excellence for a longer time than Mike sustained his version of excellence.

But guess what ?
Mike’s peaks of greatness are by far the highest un-scalable peaks in the entire history of the game of basketball. Suck on that Sh!t, OP.

[BarberSchool]

LeBron at the age of 21: All-NBA 1st team, 2nd in MVP voting
jordon at the age of 21: Not considered good enough to be picked over Sam Bowie in the NBA draft

LeBron at the age of 35 and 9 months in the NBA finals: 29.8 ppg on .591, 11.8 rpg, 8.5 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.5 bpg
jordon at the age of 35 and 4 months in the NBA finals: 33.5 ppg on .427, 4.0 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.7 bpg
Your purposeful misspelling and lowercasing of the surname “Jordan” is obviously hanging out, son. The b!tches are starting to crack Jokes.

[Full Court]

History won't be kind to Bronie. After he retires, he'll be ranked where he belongs - fringe top 10 of all time.

[Shooter]

LeBron at the age of 21: All-NBA 1st team, 2nd in MVP voting
jordon at the age of 21: Not considered good enough to be picked over Sam Bowie in the NBA draft

LeBron at the age of 35 and 9 months in the NBA finals: 29.8 ppg on .591, 11.8 rpg, 8.5 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.5 bpg
jordon at the age of 35 and 4 months in the NBA finals: 33.5 ppg on .427, 4.0 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.7 bpg

Bingo

[TheGoatest]

Your purposeful misspelling and lowercasing of the surname “Jordan” is obviously hanging out, son. The b!tches are starting to crack Jokes.

That is not "my" misspelling. As much as I wish that I came up with this piece of comedic brilliance, I simply cannot take credit for it.
It's from an excellent and very informative site from the late 90s, which serves as a reminder about just how scrutinized jordon would be in today's age of social media. It's called "The OFFICIAL Exposers of jordon's Foolishness Page": https://airjudden2.tripod.com/ejf/indexf.html

There is also an explanation for this at the FAQ page:


Why do you spell his name "jordon?"

As SuperKnicksFan so eloquently explained: jordon is so foolish that he brings much shame to his family, so to protect the innocent, his name has been altered, so that they may not have to suffer the peripheral consequences.

Furthermore, this comes from Johnny Kerr, the Bulls' play-by-play man who spells it "jordon" in his book "Bull Session" (page 37, see jordon library). Some suspect that this is supposed to represent "jor-done", referencing jordon the has-been, since he has declined so drastically since 1989. However, that isn't fair. jordon was great in 1989 because Doug Collins, the coaching genius had managed to coach incredible play from jordon's limited abilities. Others suspect that jordon runs the NBA like a mafia boss, hence the "don," but actually, it comes from Johnny Kerr, who obviously knows how to spell jordon's name, since he has witnessed more jordon games than just about anybody else on the planet.

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[3ba11]

Who cares about playing at an All-NBA level

Jordan was goat-level from 88-98' (scoring champ and top 6 DPOY)

No one has sustained a goat level for that long

[8Ball]

Who cares about playing at an All-NBA level

Jordan was goat-level from 88-98' (scoring champ and top 6 DPOY)

No one has sustained a goat level for that long

Obviously Jordan and his fanbase would care if he was able to sustain that level of excellence for 18 years.

Since he can't, they don't care what they have never experienced.

[dazzer87]

:lol

https://i.ibb.co/mTfvtxS/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/2hG8Pb5)


But but but but 8 straight final tho………:lol

[Axe]

Ask Madonna pippen accomplished more then Jordon
:lol

[3ba11]

Obviously Jordan and his fanbase would care if he was able to sustain that level of excellence for 18 years.

Since he can't, they don't care what they have never experienced.


Jordan fans require a title + scoring title + top 5 DPOY

Otoh, Lebron fans are happy with missing the play-in or a record blowout loss with a super-team... "b-b-but he's All-NBA"... Who cares - so are alot of guys

[Cold soul]

Jordan played at a GOAT level from his rookie season to age 35. Bran reached that level in '12 and it only lasted until '18 with some bumps in between.

Lebron was great 09-2010 too those years get over looked I feel.

[8Ball]

Jordan fans require a title + scoring title + top 5 DPOY

Otoh, Lebron fans are happy with missing the play-in or a record blowout loss with a super-team... "b-b-but he's All-NBA"... Who cares - so are alot of guys

LeBron fans require title + boat load of all-nba teams + longevity + all time scoring title.


All time scoring title is the most prestigious trophy right now waiting to be taken.


I waited 30 years for that to happen 3ball, I won't be denied.

[Full Court]

Jordan fans require a title + scoring title + top 5 DPOY

Otoh, Lebron fans are happy with missing the play-in or a record blowout loss with a super-team... "b-b-but he's All-NBA"... Who cares - so are alot of guys

It's true. Bronies have the lowest standards of any fan base in the sports world.

[3ba11]

LeBron fans require title + boat load of all-nba teams + longevity + all time scoring title.


All time scoring title is the most prestigious trophy right now waiting to be taken.


I waited 30 years for that to happen 3ball, I won't be denied.


Hopefully you'll get that scoring title.. It would be a real travesty if something happened.. I'm not HOPING for it.. I'm just saying if he were to get hurt or something.. I'm not trying to jinx him or anything... Not at all

[Full Court]

Hopefully you'll get that scoring title.. It would be a real travesty if something happened.. I'm not HOPING for it.. I'm just saying if he were to get hurt or something.. I'm not trying to jinx him or anything... Not at all

He was gunning for the scoring title this year. So much so that he slacked off on defense and let his team go to the lottery so he could pad his stats. He just came up short though.

Came up short...the story of his career.

[8Ball]

Hopefully you'll get that scoring title.. It would be a real travesty if something happened.. I'm not HOPING for it.. I'm just saying if he were to get hurt or something.. I'm not trying to jinx him or anything... Not at all

Thank you. I knew I could count on you to cheer for LeBron to get the most coveted scoring title.

We already hold the all time reg + play off scoring title which to me is the most impressive scoring title of them all.

But I'll go for that reg season scoring title too for my trophy case.

30 years 3ball, that's a long time to wait.

[Baller789]

He was gunning for the scoring title this year. So much so that he slacked off on defense and let his team go to the lottery so he could pad his stats. He just came up short though.

Came up short...the story of his career.

Yep

https://i.ibb.co/BCzxNzh/IMG-20220511-112708.jpg (https://ibb.co/1mv56vC)

[TheGoatest]

Let's not forget that jordon retired just in time in 1998, because his stats were in free fall mode in the 1997-98 season:

- Lowest ppg of career since his rookie season
- Lowest apg of career
- Lowest fg% of career
- Third lowest rpg of career
- Lowest spg of career
- Lowest bpg of career

All this despite extending his mileage by taking a vacation between 1993 and 1995. :facepalm

[8Ball]

discuss...

To answer OP.

Everyone has accepted it is LeBron in this thread.

This has got to become Settled Law by now as Brett Kavanugh once eloquently declared.

[kawhileonard2]

Jordan won more league mvp's, titles, finals mvp's, scoring titles, all defensive teams in less seasons than Lebron and MJ turned a franchise into a dynasty that never won while Lebron switched teams and still couldn't 3 peat despite playing with guys who won league/finals mvp's.

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats



Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry



Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html



"The weatherman says the weather is changing soon and predicts a thunderstorm," LeBron wrote alongside a photo of himself and Anthony Davis. "It's coming. Prepare and take proper caution measures to stay safe."

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html




First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503376-nba-players-shitting-on-lebron-for-15-minutes-straight&p=14568526&viewfull=1#post14568526



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503371-Jordan%92s-Finals-matchups
Jordan faced the #1 seed out west in 5 finals and the #2 seed once. He also faced the league mvp winner or runner up in 5 of the 6 finals. He also faced the team with the best or 2nd best record in the league in those finals. Lebron lost to Dallas who didn't have the best record nor was the top 2 seed in the conference. Even the 2007 Spurs had the 3rd best record in the conference and Lebron got swept by them.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503422-LeBron-getting-scoring-leader-again-being-all-time-playoff-scorer-most-triple-dou%85

Chris Broussard mentioned Jordan 9 had buzzer beaters in his career and #1. Kobe and Joe Johnson 8 buzzer beaters and Lebron 7. This includes season and playoffs. Despite Lebron playing more games than either.



6 rings in 11 full seasons without super-teams > 4 in 19 with them
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500799-6-rings-in-11-full-seasons-without-super-teams-gt-4-in-19-with-them&p=14512408&viewfull=1#post14512408

Lebron quit on the Cavs and they burned his jersey and held his family hostage. He also only won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him which is pathetic in 11 years. Imagine someone getting credit when they lose with Shaq and only get to round 2 and they lose with peak Duncan getting bronze medal.

[RogueBorg]

Why has it taken Lebron 19 years to win 4 chips? At this rate he’d have to play another 9 years just get to 6.
Pathetic to be honest.

In case you forgot, Lebron hasn’t won an MVP, a scoring title or made an All-Defensive team in his 30s, he also has exactly 2 1st place Defensive votes in his 30s. Seems to me Lebron’s prime ended 7 years ago in 2014.

[WhiteKyrie]

As best player in the league?

Jordan - 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
LeBron - 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 18

Exactly equal, tbh

Both got robbed of MVPs at various points due to circumstances or voter fatigue

Jackie McMullen writing a sports illustrated piece to literally puff up carameloones argument in 1997 is proof positive.

And Mike was retired for the final two years of his prime in 1994 and 1995. Probably would’ve still been the best player in the league in 1999 as well if Krause and Scottie didn’t break up the Bulls a season early. Could’ve tacked 3 seasons on to Mike’s totals.

[Baller789]

Yep

https://i.ibb.co/BCzxNzh/IMG-20220511-112708.jpg (https://ibb.co/1mv56vC)


Why has it taken Lebron 19 years to win 4 chips? At this rate he’d have to play another 9 years just get to 6.
Pathetic to be honest.

In case you forgot, Lebron hasn’t won an MVP, a scoring title or made an All-Defensive team in his 30s, he also has exactly 2 1st place Defensive votes in his 30s. Seems to me Lebron’s prime ended 7 years ago in 2014.

Because he only has a 40% chance to win his Finals.

Guess how many more sure finals wins to even get to 50%?

:oldlol:

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


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