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Im Still Ballin
03-30-2022, 02:01 PM
He put up some fantastic scoring numbers, but it did appear that he benefitted tremendously from Steven Nash's play. He was able to get some MVP hype for a few months in New York, but there was a notable decline in efficiency without Nash.

We even have some games played with Nash out injured during his peak seasons.



In '04-'05, Amar'e played 7 games without Nash.

He put up: 22.4 PPG // 7.4 RPG // 1.4 APG // 1.9 SPG // 1.6 BPG // 3.3 TOPG on 48.7% FG and 56.33% TS

The team went 2-5.




In '06-'07, Amar'e played 6 games without Nash.

He put up: 25.2 PPG // 11.2 RPG // 1.5 APG // 0.5 SPG // 0.8 BPG // 4.0 TOPG on 50.5% FG and 57.43% TS

The team went 2-4.




In '07-'08, Amar'e played 1 game without Nash.

He put up: 21 points, 14 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover, shooting 47.4% FG and 50.58% TS

The team went 0-1.




In '08-'09, Amar'e played 5 games without Nash.

He put up: 17.4 PPG // 5.0 RPG // 0.8 APG // 0.8 SPG // 1.2 BPG // 3.6 TOPG on 49.3% FG and 55.15% TS

The team went 2-3.




In '09-'10, Amar'e played 1 game without Nash.

He put up: 30 points, 9 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block, 2 turnovers on 60.0% FG and 60.39% TS

The team went 1-0.


That's a total of 20 games, amounting to a statline of:



- 22.3 PPG // 8.4 RPG // 1.3 APG // 1.1 SPG // 1.2 BPG // 3.4 TOPG on 50% FG and 56.35% TS

W/L of 7-13.


That's still a solid stat line, but the efficiency is notably decreased.

With Nash in 359 games over that period of time, this is what he put up:



- 23.3 PPG // 9.0 RPG // 1.4 APG // 0.8 SPG // 1.5 BPG // 2.5 TOPG on 56.8% FG and 63.02% TS


A drop in efficiency that lines up with his first year in New York.

Norcaliblunt
03-30-2022, 02:05 PM
One of the greatest finishers of all time. Good mid range jump shot and free throw shooter. Okay rebounder. Absolutely terrible defender and playmaker.

dankok8
03-30-2022, 02:07 PM
Amare was pretty unstoppable offensively. So explosive and athletic, ran the floor, could leave guys in the dust with that first step and finish like a monster, plus good from midrange too. His problem was always durability and bad defense. His apex was probably the 2005 WCF where he exploded on Duncan. Definitely one of my low key favorite players to watch.

As for Nash, he is on the short list of the greatest offensive engines ever. Of course he helped Amare...

Im Still Ballin
03-30-2022, 02:07 PM
His '05 WCF 5-game performance against San Antonio is touted as his crowning achievement:

- 37.0 PPG // 9.8 RPG // 1.4 APG // 1.0 SPG // 1.6 BPG on 55% FG and 61.1% TS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XJyIBYgig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWJxoHppJ6o

Im Still Ballin
03-30-2022, 02:13 PM
Amare was pretty unstoppable offensively. So explosive and athletic, ran the floor, could leave guys in the dust with that first step and finish like a monster, plus good from midrange too. His problem was always durability and bad defense. His apex was probably the 2005 WCF where he exploded on Duncan. Definitely one of my low key favorite players to watch.

As for Nash, he is on the short list of the greatest offensive engines ever. Of course he helped Amare...

It wasn't a question of if Nash helped Amar'e, but how much he did.

tontoz
03-30-2022, 02:13 PM
Remember that he lost a season due to microfracture surgery. He came back and played well but i think it shortened his shelf life.

highwhey
03-30-2022, 02:20 PM
His '05 WCF 5-game performance against San Antonio is touted as his crowning achievement:

- 37.0 PPG // 9.8 RPG // 1.4 APG // 1.0 SPG // 1.6 BPG on 55% FG and 61.1% TS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XJyIBYgig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWJxoHppJ6o

he only began playing organized basketball in highschool and 4 years later was drafted into the NBA. incredible player.

Norcaliblunt
03-30-2022, 02:21 PM
He wasn’t a great creator. You couldn’t just give him the ball and have him create a shot for himself or anyone else. His playmaking was non existent. If you set him up in the pick n roll or pick n pop he was one the greatest finishers and jump shooters ever. His hands, feet, jumping ability, and explosiveness were unreal. But his handles and court vision were not there.

iamgine
03-30-2022, 02:28 PM
He was a borderline top 10-15 player at his peak.

BigKobeFan
03-30-2022, 02:29 PM
Should not have won ROY over yao.

The year prior, NBA gave Bran the ROY because he took his team to the playoffs while crymelo didn't.

So they should have stuck with that narrative and give Yao the ROY