19 seasons in and LeBron never had a 55 win type supporting cast…

[Westbrook_Fan]

Meanwhile all of Jordans rings came on teams that could win 55 games without him

Why? :confusedshrug:

[Bronbron23]

Are you on crack? Wade and bosh? Love and kyrie? AD?

And the reason mj's team could still be good without him is because mj played on a team with elite movement. He didn't force a system to run through him. He played within the system. This is something bron stans will never understand. It's way more impressive and successful being able to get crazy stats without ball dominating.

[2much_knowledge]

Don't disguise yourself as a fan of westbrook if you're gona blow off lebron constantly

[Spurs m8]

And you're STILL a virgin

[Westbrook_Fan]

Bump

[Full Court]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh the desperation and damage control. :roll:

OP is SHOOK.

:lebroncry:

[John_Connor]

I think it shows more so that Jordan can be integrated into any offense without them skipping a beat and he doesn't ruin a team's chemistry. nor does he force them to build their team entirely around him or handcuff them going forward.

jordan = liquid/water (giver of life)




lebron = acid/anthrax (taker of life)

[John_Connor]

everywhere lebron goes and everything lebron touches turns to shit


every career he's teamed up with ended immediately



the league = destroyed



competitiveness = destroyed




loyalty = destroyed





/thread

[3ba11]

Lebron left the Cavs as 2nd Round losers in 2010, not 3-peat champs.. And those Cavs lost their entire starting 5, not just Lebron - team-hopping colluders like lebron GUT teams, so their fall-off is no surprise.

In 2014, the Heat lost to the Spurs by record amount and by a much more than any Western opponent - they were equivalent to a 1st Round Western team and record loser, not 3-peat champs.

Finally, after the surprise factor/no pressure and honeymoon period was exposed in the 94' Playoffs, the 95' bulls were the REAL bulls without MJ and they were lottery before MJ returned to restore 3-peat caliber.. The reality is that good 1st options are supposed to grow a team each year, but Pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty to lottery in less than 18 months.

[Spurs m8]

Well.....this bump didn't go too well lmfao

[Axe]

Kobe and jordan wouldn't have won rings without an elite hof coach like the zenmaster phil jackson.

[3ba11]

Kobe and jordan wouldn't have won rings without an elite hof coach like the zenmaster phil jackson.


Phil won no rings without Jordan or his clone Kobe - the triangle required quick bailouts throughout the game (no ball-dominance) and Jordan invented the quick-iso footwork for this, which Kobe copied..

Without this unprecedented bailout ability, and without MJ agreeing to accept the offense, the triangle would've remained an unknown offense that never won - no one would know who Phil was without the players to make his losing offense work.. Ultimately, everyone is results-oriented and quick to anoint anyone with a ring count - but it's okay to say someone coattailed - coattailing IS a thing

Phil was just likeable and managed personalities well, while his stature eventually followed the winning - he had to win 72 to get COY with MJ

Ultimately, Jordan was the goat candidate when they won in 90/91, while Phil was a 1st-time, nobody coach, so that means Phil coattailed MJ

[Johnny32]

imagine if lebron had a top 5 player of the decade as his teammate. then imagine if he played in an offensively challenged era diluted by expansion with that teammate. how many championships would he win...? only god knows.

[Gohan]

imagine if lebron had a top 5 player of the decade as his teammate. then imagine if he played in an offensively challenged era diluted by expansion with that teammate. how many championships would he win...? only god knows.

he had dwade and chris bosh and only managed to win 2. he'd win 2 im guessing that's an estimate.

[Johnny32]

he had dwade and chris bosh and only managed to win 2. he'd win 2 im guessing that's an estimate.

wade had one good leg and bosh never did shit before or after legoat.

[2much_knowledge]

wade had one good leg and bosh never did shit before or after legoat.

And one good leg was enough to outperform your false goat in the 11 finals....

And show gratitude to bosh who grabed the rebound and made the assist that saved lebrons legacy