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coastalmarker99
01-13-2022, 09:59 AM
In my first four or five years in the NBA, I so dominated scoring wise that even my strongest detractors had to concede that I could score almost whenever I wanted to.


An example of how I dominated was bought to light on January 9 1991 when Micheal Jordan scored his fifteen thousandth point all the papers praised his achievement and related that he reached that milestone in his 460th game faster then anyone else in NBA history besides your's truly.


Who did it in 358 games that's right 102 games quicker I was besieged by so many factions that I started to score less and less I did it only to appease my detractors not because of my inability to keep scoring.

There is no doubt that if I had chosen to keep scoring I could have and just as easily in my last years of play as in the beginning of my career.

I become a smarter player as I got older and my field goal percentage started to climb to unreal numbers also the center competition in my mind's eye became less and less formidable.

Russell was getting old and Kareem was not strong enough to keep me from going to the basket which I did more of in my later years than I was allowed to in my early years.


I want you all to realize that I dunked the basketball about half as many shots a game when I was really scoring points as Micheal Jordan does now as I mainly used fadeaway jump shots and finger rolls to score my shots


The point is I could have put the scoring record so far out of reach that Kareem would have to play thirty years not twenty years to break the record but I sacrificed all of that scoring ability for whatever my teams wanted of me.



I call that real unselfishness, not like that crap you hear announcers say when a player gives off a pass to a teammate my last game in the NBA was indicative of what I had allowed myself to become as a scorer I took one that's right one shot during the entire game.


There were many games during the last four or five years of my career when I took one or no shots but I led the NBA in rebounding and blocked shots and I established a shooting percentage record that may stand for many a year 72%.


What would you have done if you were the greatest scorer the game has ever seen would you stop shooting and pass the ball to some guy who on his best day couldn't score in an entire game what you averaged for one quarter for better or worse that's what I did.


At times I got a little angry when I read that I couldn't score anymore so I would go out and score 50 or 60 points just to show people I could still do it then I would go back to role-playing scoring twelve and thirteen points a contest.

expansionera
01-13-2022, 10:02 AM
Wilt could score whenever he wanted to, lead the league in assist if he wanted to, and swat shots so hard he’d break a grown power forward(not a “stretch 4”)’s arm. Imagine if he had the entire league behind him changing the rules to benefit him like Jordan, instead they invented ways to stop him to make it fair to others :oldlol:

coastalmarker99
01-13-2022, 10:08 AM
Wilt could score whenever he wanted to, lead the league in assist if he wanted to, and swat shots so hard he’d break a grown power forward(not a “stretch 4”)’s arm. Imagine if he had the entire league behind him changing the rules to benefit him like Jordan, instead they invented ways to stop him to make it fair to others :oldlol:

Wilt is the only player in NBA history to lead the league in points, assists and rebounds plus shot-blocking in any season




Wilt was an unparalleled athletic specimen, arguably the perfect basketball body ever created.

He averaged 34.6 points and 25.6 rebounds in the playoffs with the Warriors.

34/25 is better than Jordan's stat line as a scorer.

He averaged a 30/20 for 5 post seasons..

Nobody else has even had a series average of 30/20.

He was 24.9/27.5 with the Sixers where he passed more and shot less because he had a better team.

He had 30 rebound series at this time(which no one else has done) and numerous triple doubles in the playoffs.

He would have won Finals MVP but the award didn't exist at the time.


He also stepped up his rebounding in the postseason as he was only out-rebounded only in 1 series (averaged 27.8/19.8/6.3) of his career and he has a higher career playoff rebounding rate than Dennis Rodman while playing nearly 19 extra minutes per game.

expansionera
01-13-2022, 10:14 AM
Wilt is the only player in NBA history to lead the league in points, assists and rebounds plus shot-blocking in any season




Wilt was an unparalleled athletic specimen, arguably the perfect basketball body ever created.

He averaged 34.6 points and 25.6 rebounds in the playoffs with the Warriors.

34/25 is better than Jordan's stat line as a scorer.

He averaged a 30/20 for 5 post seasons..

Nobody else has even had a series average of 30/20.

He was 24.9/27.5 with the Sixers where he passed more and shot less because he had a better team.

He had 30 rebound series at this time(which no one else has done) and numerous triple doubles in the playoffs.

He would have won Finals MVP but the award didn't exist at the time.


He also stepped up his rebounding in the postseason as he was only out-rebounded only in 1 series (averaged 27.8/19.8/6.3) of his career and he has a higher career playoff rebounding rate than Dennis Rodman while playing nearly 19 extra minutes per game.

Right, his 76ers are one of two teams to beat Russell’s Celtics (provided Russell had an injury in 58) which at their peak employed 5 HoF starters and two more of the bench. Wilt didn’t need his competition to retire like Jordan either, he is the only superstar player to defeat maximum defensive attention from an all time aside from LeBron in 2016.

coastalmarker99
01-13-2022, 10:23 AM
Right, his 76ers are one of two teams to beat Russell’s Celtics (provided Russell had an injury in 58) which at their peak employed 5 HoF starters and two more of the bench. Wilt didn’t need his competition to retire like Jordan either, he is the only superstar player to defeat maximum defensive attention from an all time aside from LeBron in 2016.

In the Wilt-Russell era of the 1960s, Wilt faced 8 great players, aside from the Celtics.

In the regular season, Wilt had a winning record against 7 of 8 players:
73.1 Barry
67.3 Reed
63.8 Thurmond
57.9 Baylor
57.0 Oscar
54.8 Schayes
54.4 West
41.1 Pettit

57.5 Wilt overall vs. these 8




Plus Pettit retired in 1965, so he never played against Wilt's best teams, the 76ers and the Lakers.


In the playoffs, Wilt had a winning record of .573 against these top players:

Wilt's record vs. opponent:
72.7 Barry
70.6 Thurmond
57.9 Oscar
57.1 Pettit
45.5 (5-6) Schayes
41.2 (7-10) Reed

(Wilt never played Baylor or West in POs.)

Schayes also retired in 1964, so he never played Wilt with his best teams, 76ers and Lakers.

Also, Reed missed the 1972 Finals (injured), when Lakers beat Knicks 4-1.

Overall, Wilt's record RS+PO: .57.4.


Wilt (ages 33-36) vs. Kareem (ages 22-25): 1970-73:

RS: 9-8 Wilt > KAJ
PO: 5-6 Wilt < KAJ (1-1 in PO series)
Total: 14-14 Wilt = KAJ

Playoff series:
7-1: Russell's Celtics vs. Wilt's teams
20-1: Russell's Celtics vs. non-Wilt teams
17-4: Wilt's teams vs. non-Celtics

Wilt's teams had the best winning percentage against the Celtics of any top player in 1960s:

Regular season W% vs. Russell's Celtics:
39.4 Wilt

38.2 West
37.6 Schayes
35.6 Baylor
35.1 Oscar
30.9 Pettit
28.6 Thurmond
26.3 Barry
23.8 Reed

33.6 Overall for 8 non-Wilt players

Playoffs: Winning percentage vs. Russell's Celtics:

40.8 Wilt (slightly better than his RS record vs. Celtics)

43.5 Pettit

36.8 West
35.3 Oscar
35.1 Baylor
30.0 Reed
26.7 Schayes
20.0 Thurmond
NA (0-0) Barry

35.2 Overall record of non-Wilt players vs. Celtics.


Overall (Regular season + POs) vs. Celtics:

39.9 Wilt

37.7 West
36.0 Schayes
35.5 Baylor
35.1 Oscar
34.1 Pettit
27.7 Thurmond
26.3 Barry
25.0 Reed

34.0 Overall of non-Wilt players

Number of championships, 1960-72 (13 years):
9 Celtics
2 Wilt (76ers and Lakers)
1 Knicks
1 Bucks
0 every other team. That's 103 team seasons!

Wilt had more championships in these years than any non-Celtics player.


People can say what they want about Wilt but "loser" is not a logically appropriate label for him as if not for facing the most stacked team ever he would have at minimum 6 to 7 rings.