What moves are players doing today that weren't being done 30 years ago?

[Bronbron23]

The step side or whatever the hell it's being called is one i don't think i've seen back then. Players were doing step backs but i don't think i've ever seen any one step to the side and do it like harden. Maybe because it would of been a travel.

Anything else? Sure there's a bunch i just can't think of any.

[SouBeachTalents]

The 3 point shot

[warriorfan]

Colluding with the 2nd and 4th highest PER players in the league.

[Airupthere]

Excessive flopping

[Airupthere]

Carry the ball

[Axe]

Setting moving screens for an unclutch player who excels at shooting long range shots and banal buzzer beaters against lottery teams during garbage time in the regular season.

[warriorfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHZf3mWERfc

[Baller789]

Setting moving screens for an unclutch player who excels at shooting long range shots and banal buzzer beaters against lottery teams during garbage time in the regular season.

Still mad brah?

OT: the BS 0 step lame excuse of the NBA.

[Axe]

Still mad brah?

OT: the BS 0 step lame excuse of the NBA.
What is it you want now, puppy?

[pandiani17]

Load-managing.

[Baller789]

What is it you want now, puppy?

You still mad brah?

[Bronbron23]

The 3 point shot

That was expected although it was being done just not nearly enough. Anything that players weren't doing that they're doing now?

[fsvr54]

Carry the ball

This is a good one actually

[Airupthere]

This is a good one actually

2:45 min is a massive carry by tatum (and clarkson after him) and this kind of thing is being done in the NBA on a regular basis now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGB1V0iesDs&t=118s

[sdot_thadon]

Carry the ball

Nah they did plenty of that...and traveling too back then. Difference was only a small group of guys were allowed to do it back then, vs everyone being allowed now.

[Airupthere]

Nah they did plenty of that...and traveling too back then. Difference was only a small group of guys were allowed to do it back then, vs everyone being allowed now.

magic did and would get away with it. nowadays, it's ubiquitous as you said and more obvious.

[sdot_thadon]

magic did and would get away with it. nowadays, it's ubiquitous as you said and more obvious.

Mj too, was a superstar only club back then tho.

[3ba11]

.
Today's player doesn't jab step:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-21-2015/02jy9L.gif



Or headfake:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/jVUNtn.gif



Compare to Lebron's triple-threat skill:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-17-2015/NtLU8z.gif



6'9" Lebron was comically doing post moves on shrimp Caruso, instead of just DROP-STEPPING ON THE SMALLER PLAYER, LIKE THIS:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-16-2019/f7y_Z9.gif


today's players have no drop-step and shit hangtime

[Airupthere]

Compare to Lebron's triple-threat skill:
https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-17-2015/NtLU8z.gif


But that was lightning quick boris diaw on lebron. Not a fair comparison. Lol.

[paksat]

2:45 min is a massive carry by tatum (and clarkson after him) and this kind of thing is being done in the NBA on a regular basis now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGB1V0iesDs&t=118s

that's pathetic, but it's accepted now due to how highly "skilled" they are ( can't dribble the ball without carrying )

since this is the most skilled era ever tho I mean ya know I mean ya know

[zeerghit]

cmon.. MJ traveled a LOT, it was just so smooth

[zeerghit]

.
today's player doesn't jab step:





https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-16-2019/f7y_Z9.gif


today's players have no drop-step and shit hangtime

travel

[Bronbron23]

cmon.. MJ traveled a LOT, it was just so smooth

I agree with this. I've seen mj travel many times. It's just way more Subtle

[zeerghit]

I agree with this. I've seen mj travel many times. It's just way more Subtle

its actually crazy hard to see even in replay, but than u try to look now with slower speed u can find a lot of them

[3ba11]

.
This hop-step is singular to Jordan


https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-21-2021/UDr3J6.gif

[PP34Deuce]

I watched the 88 bulls lakers game yesterday....

Magic often would change his pivot.

MJ front rimmed a dunk

Kareem got scored on 3 straight times by Bill cartwright

No one was super human

[NoBloodNoFoul]

Flexing after uncontested dunks and touch fouls in the key. Yelling "and one" everytime they finish in traffic.
Excessive and stupid handshaking rituals and bench-jerks celebrating every made basket.

[zeerghit]

Flexing after uncontested dunks and touch fouls in the key. Yelling "and one" everytime they finish in traffic.
Excessive and stupid handshaking rituals and bench-jerks celebrating every made basket.

100% agree

[Bronbron23]

its actually crazy hard to see even in replay, but than u try to look now with slower speed u can find a lot of them

Yeah i've noticed that also. His pivot foot moves off the spot alot. It's often barely noticeable at first glance but he does do it.

[Bronbron23]

.
This hop-step is singular to Jordan


https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-21-2021/UDr3J6.gif

Othet players have done it but you don't see alot of guys banging on guys off of the hop step. I'm sure vince must of done it.

[Bronbron23]

Flexing after uncontested dunks and touch fouls in the key. Yelling "and one" everytime they finish in traffic.
Excessive and stupid handshaking rituals and bench-jerks celebrating every made basket.

Not really a move but your right. It's annoying as yell. All the kids mini leagues and school leagues do it now also.

[insight]

The step side or whatever the hell it's being called is one i don't think i've seen back then. Players were doing step backs but i don't think i've ever seen any one step to the side and do it like harden. Maybe because it would of been a travel.

Anything else? Sure there's a bunch i just can't think of any.

The zero step, or gather step wasn't allowed and was considered traveling. This is why you don't see side steps, backs steps, and 3 step layups they do today back then.
The closest thing was the pro hop, which for a long time was considered traveling too. The sky hook and finger roll are two things you rarely see in todays game.

[Bronbron23]

The zero step, or gather step wasn't allowed and was considered traveling. This is why you don't see side steps, backs steps, and 3 step layups they do today back then.
The closest thing was the pro hop, which for a long time was considered traveling too. The sky hook and finger roll are two things you rarely see in todays game.

I've seen guys do step backs in mj's era but i don't recall anyone doing the sidestep one with the zero step. That definitely would of been traveling.

Surprised nobody does the sky hook. It's so effective. I think i remember kareem talking about nobody doing it because it wasn't sexy looking

[Airupthere]

I've seen guys do step backs in mj's era but i don't recall anyone doing the sidestep one with the zero step. That definitely would of been traveling.

Surprised nobody does the sky hook. It's so effective. I think i remember kareem talking about nobody doing it because it wasn't sexy looking

Step-back before, even up to kobe/tmac era, was a hard plant of the foot after the last dribble, then one-step back. Stepback today seem to allow many steps back.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc369v9ES5o&t=90s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeDQQ-ww5No&t=103s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qosa5Tohka8

[Airupthere]

This is bird doing a step back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgAAUqoD7hA

Meanwhile today


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC9o6hXDNuM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zpmigCh0Aw

[Bronbron23]

Step-back before, even up to kobe/tmac era, was a hard plant of the foot after the last dribble, then one-step back. Stepback today seem to allow many steps back.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc369v9ES5o&t=90s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeDQQ-ww5No&t=103s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qosa5Tohka8

Yeah they definitely allow for an extra dribble or 2 on the step back now.

[Johnny32]

.
This hop-step is singular to Jordan


https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-21-2021/UDr3J6.gif

clear travel.

[eliteballer]

You mean besides carrying and traveling?

[FilmyCogTurner]

The one handed high arcing push shot really wasn't around back then. DRose has really perfected that shot.

[Bronbron23]

The one handed high arcing push shot really wasn't around back then. DRose has really perfected that shot.

You mean a floater?

[HylianNightmare]

Love how this threads turned out

[Bronbron23]

clear travel.

U think a hop step is a travel? It's interesting because even refs have different takes on the hop step. Some call it some don't. With the gather step allowed now it wouldn't be a travel. I'm not so sure about back then.

[Bronbron23]

Love how this threads turned out

Lol. Was meant to be about actual skilled moves. It's ish though so i'm not surprised.

[zeerghit]

The one handed high arcing push shot really wasn't around back then. DRose has really perfected that shot.

think Parker + Navarro(Spanish guy) has started this
you can say same about chase down blocks aswell
one more is Rondo behind the back fake

[Airupthere]

think Parker + Navarro(Spanish guy) has started this
you can say same about chase down blocks aswell
one more is Rondo behind the back fake

I would go even further back. Nick van exel has one of the best teardrop/floaters.

[Manny98]

Flopping

[DCL]

the rules for travel get more and more lenient every generation.

when i was playing, old farts were already calling out our travels and we were defiant with those accusations.

now i am doing the same to the young kids and they are just as defiant. :oldlol:

[Baller789]

the rules for travel get more and more lenient every generation.

when i was playing, old farts were already calling out our travels and we were defiant with those accusations.

now i am doing the same to the young kids and they are just as defiant. :oldlol:

The problem with this is that it creates the illusion that previous generations had far worse balhandlers than there are now. Sure in general, today's are better, but it is more of the rules than just plain "evolution".

[ClipperRevival]

Great thread. As most have said, flopping, colluding and carrying.

[Airupthere]

Great thread. As most have said, flopping, colluding and carrying.

Looks like one player has this list on his repertoire, lol.