View Full Version : Lamelo ball is a top 10 player now... already
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:15 PM
hes basically luka doncic, trae young and ja morant combined.
only reason he's not ahead of them is because of consistency. but when he's on he's better than all 3 of those other guys.
he's an elite ball handler, an elite passer. an elite shooter. an elite finisher with elite speed. elite decision making.
all he lacks is defense and strength. when his body fills out he's literally gonna be the greatest player to ever play. there won't be anything this guy isn't great at in 3 years
he's destroying the 2021 nba Champs right now
Im so nba'd out
12-01-2021, 11:21 PM
hes basically luka doncic, trae young and ja morant combined.
only reason he's not ahead of them is because of consistency. but when he's on he's better than all 3 of those other guys.
he's an elite ball handler, an elite passer. an elite shooter. an elite finisher with elite speed. elite decision making.
all he lacks is defense and strength. when his body fills out he's literally gonna be the greatest player to ever play. there won't be anything this guy isn't great at in 3 years
he's destroying the 2021 nba Champs right now
He’s nothing like them 3 combined because he actually plays defense….none of them do
Luka is a low basketball iq stat chaser
Ja is a 3rd option on a championship team
Trae is decent. nothing bad to say about him…
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:22 PM
I haven't seen anyone with as fast a quick thinking/decision making/reaction playmaking ability since Larry Bird
his instincts are God mode. easily my new favorite player. Lukas awesome and durants my guy but this kid is the next one
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:22 PM
He’s nothing like them 3 combined because he actually plays defense….none of them do
obviously I'm only talking about offense. it would be useless to compare any of these guys defensively
Honor Boost
12-01-2021, 11:25 PM
hes basically luka doncic, trae young and ja morant combined.
only reason he's not ahead of them is because of consistency. but when he's on he's better than all 3 of those other guys.
he's an elite ball handler, an elite passer. an elite shooter. an elite finisher with elite speed. elite decision making.
all he lacks is defense and strength. when his body fills out he's literally gonna be the greatest player to ever play. there won't be anything this guy isn't great at in 3 years
he's destroying the 2021 nba Champs right now
No he's not at all top ten
Kawhi
Paul George
LeBron
Davis
Luka
Jokic
Curry
Lillard
Durant
Harden
Butler
Giannis
Middleton
Chris Paul
Embiid
This is already 15
Then
Trae
Tatum
Morant
Klay
Booker
Mitchell
Brown
Bam
Gobert
Poole
Simmons
Murray
Mitchell
Kyrie
...
LaMelo is not even top 30 bro
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:28 PM
**** I jinxed the little f*cker
ShawkFactory
12-01-2021, 11:32 PM
He is not. Will be in 3 or so years though.
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:32 PM
No he's not at all top ten
Kawhi
Paul George
LeBron
Davis
Luka
Jokic
Curry
Lillard
Durant
Harden
Butler
Giannis
Middleton
Chris Paul
Embiid
This is already 15
Then
Trae
Tatum
Morant
Klay
Booker
Mitchell
Brown
Bam
Gobert
Poole
Simmons
Murray
Mitchell
Kyrie
...
LaMelo is not even top 30 bro
I mean when he's on he's a top 10 level player and he's just not consistent yet due to age
his skills are top 10
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:32 PM
Melo for 3. BOOOOOOOM
Kawhi_Why_Not
12-01-2021, 11:35 PM
Umm no.
Their dad is the GOAT mouth piece. Hyping up his sons like their MJ when in reality they are closer to Doug Christie
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:35 PM
****in giannis. oh well I have both of Melo and giannis's rookies
HunterSThompson
12-01-2021, 11:35 PM
Umm no.
Their dad is the GOAT mouth piece. Hyping up his sons like their MJ when in reality they are closer to Doug Christie
low IQ
Pip' N Rodman
12-01-2021, 11:41 PM
He's gonna get more 30 point triple doubles this year than Kobe's entire career
Dr. Lemon
12-01-2021, 11:43 PM
He's gonna get more 30 point triple doubles this year than Kobe's entire career
There is truth in this statement. LaMelo is a significantly better passer and rebounder than Kobe.
insight
12-02-2021, 12:10 AM
hes basically luka doncic, trae young and ja morant combined.
only reason he's not ahead of them is because of consistency. but when he's on he's better than all 3 of those other guys.
he's an elite ball handler, an elite passer. an elite shooter. an elite finisher with elite speed. elite decision making.
all he lacks is defense and strength. when his body fills out he's literally gonna be the greatest player to ever play. there won't be anything this guy isn't great at in 3 years
he's destroying the 2021 nba Champs right now
Trae Young is one of the most double teamed players in the NBA. This type of hyperbole is ridiculous, Lamelo is a young talented player but he isn't even top 5 in ANY statistics.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 12:11 AM
There is truth in this statement. LaMelo is a significantly better passer and rebounder than Kobe.
well its a good thing kobe like jordan made up for being less all around by being more of a 2 way legend on both ends of the floor with God like ability at scoring like prime wilt Chamberlain except with raw skill and killer mentality instead of just utter physical dominance
that definitely trumps an extra rebound and assist
SouBeachTalents
12-02-2021, 12:21 AM
well its a good thing kobe like jordan made up for being less all around by being more of a 2 way legend on both ends of the floor with God like ability at scoring like prime wilt Chamberlain except with raw skill and killer mentality instead of just utter physical dominance
that definitely trumps an extra rebound and assist
That god like scoring ability/killer mentality produced 25 ppg in the Finals and 22 ppg in elimination games on bad efficiency
Pip' N Rodman
12-02-2021, 12:24 AM
well its a good thing kobe like jordan made up for being less all around by being more of a 2 way legend on both ends of the floor with God like ability at scoring like prime wilt Chamberlain except with raw skill and killer mentality instead of just utter physical dominance
that definitely trumps an extra rebound and assist
Kobe career average: 24ppg on 44%
Finals Average: 24ppg on 40%
Elimination Game average: 22ppg on 38%
So he had one stat padded season in 2006, big whoop
1987_Lakers
12-02-2021, 12:29 AM
Kobe career average: 24ppg on 44%
Finals Average: 24ppg on 40%
Elimination Game average: 22ppg on 38%
So he had one stat padded season in 2006, big whoop
:roll:
Dr. Lemon
12-02-2021, 12:36 AM
well its a good thing kobe like jordan made up for being less all around by being more of a 2 way legend on both ends of the floor with God like ability at scoring like prime wilt Chamberlain except with raw skill and killer mentality instead of just utter physical dominance
that definitely trumps an extra rebound and assist
You really worship this man, don't you.
Kobe Bryant is your God. Your Messiah. The man you get on your knees for and pray to every night.
well its a good thing kobe like jordan made up for being less all around by being more of a 2 way legend on both ends of the floor with God like ability at scoring like prime wilt Chamberlain except with raw skill and killer mentality instead of just utter physical dominance
that definitely trumps an extra rebound and assist
:facepalm
Kawhi_Why_Not
12-02-2021, 03:08 AM
well its a good thing kobe like jordan made up for being less all around by being more of a 2 way legend on both ends of the floor with God like ability at scoring like prime wilt Chamberlain except with raw skill and killer mentality instead of just utter physical dominance
that definitely trumps an extra rebound and assist
This actually would of been an outstanding post if it was describing kawhi instead of kobe.
Writing it about kobe just makes you look like a dork and a casual
SATAN
12-02-2021, 03:16 AM
Mods??
ELITEpower23
12-02-2021, 03:19 AM
Kobe career average: 24ppg on 44%
Finals Average: 24ppg on 40%
Elimination Game average: 22ppg on 38%
So he had one stat padded season in 2006, big whoop
Ouch :oldlol:
This actually would of been an outstanding post if it was describing kawhi instead of kobe.
Writing it about kobe just makes you look like a dork and a casual
Hi hbk
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 08:34 AM
That god like scoring ability/killer mentality produced 25 ppg in the Finals and 22 ppg in elimination games on bad efficiency
man you know.good and well kobe averaged 28ppg for his career. 3rd all time behind jordan and wilt not counting his first 2 benched seasons for becoming the first non big out of highschool. up till the achilles injury he averaged 28ppg over a 15 year stretch from age 20 on. basically an entire career. and over that span he had a 1.30 point per shot like MJ
had kobe gone to college and not played on.1 leg then he is basically jordan and wilt scoring average wise
SATAN
12-02-2021, 08:37 AM
had kobe gone to college
The greatness of LeBron James, folks.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 08:39 AM
imagine jordan come out of highschool instead of north Carolina and began his career on the Lakers or Celtics and averaged 7 points then 15 points a year later and 19 points the year after that in his 1st year starting having to play 2nd fiddle to the leagues most dominant player
would that mean jordan was any less of a player.
again this is why you box score watching fans don't know shit about basketball lol
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 08:41 AM
The greatness of LeBron James, folks.
kobe made it possible for a lebron james to exist. that's what you dont get. if not for kobe/tmac/garnett then lebrons drafted further down and ends up on a better team.and gets less shots cause they would be in playoff contention
man you know.good and well kobe averaged 28ppg for his career. 3rd all time behind jordan and wilt not counting his first 2 benched seasons for becoming the first non big out of highschool. up till the achilles injury he averaged 28ppg over a 15 year stretch from age 20 on. basically an entire career. and over that span he had a 1.30 point per shot like MJ
had kobe gone to college and not played on.1 leg then he is basically jordan and wilt scoring average wise
2005-2010
Lebron 29/7/7 57% TS%
Kobe 29.5/5.5/5 56% TS%
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 08:47 AM
2005-2010
Lebron 29/7/7 57% TS%
Kobe 29.5/5.5/5 56% TS%
and this is why you watch the games. lebron prior to 2012 was trash to be honest. he didn't even know how to win. he was a chicken shit. complete stat padding and no killer mentality. no poise. no footwork. no post game. no jumper. complete trash. just bully ball
and you know I'm telling the truth cause I have lebron top.6 all time and as the best player from.2012 to.2018
and this is why you watch the games. lebron prior to 2012 was trash to be honest. he didn't even know how to win. he was a chicken shit. complete stat padding and no killer mentality. no poise. no footwork. no post game. no jumper. complete trash. just bully ball
:cry:
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 08:53 AM
:cry:
2004 bronze/missed playoffs
2005 misses playoffs
2006 bronze
2007 swept in finals/quit
2008 choked the gold medal away again. thanks kobe
2009 lost to Dwight?
2010 choked/quit
2011 choked/owned by jj barea
he was TRASH. and you know it. just a stat guy and nothing more. not reliable in big moments
2012 was his first elite version. he caught up to kobes 2001 version that year. pathetic
he was TRASH. and you know it. just a stat guy and nothing more. not reliable in big moments
Kobe was Westbrook before Pau. First round fodder
2005 misses playoffs
:roll:
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:01 AM
Kobe was Westbrook before Pau. First round fodder
:roll:
this is proof you don't watch games. in 2001, 2002 and 2004 kobe carried the Lakers past the spurs, blazers, wolves and kings and showed he could beat the best teams in the league as the best player in the series. lebron never showed that till 2012
again. stop award/stat watching and watch the games
be a fan for once. get educated
this is proof you don't watch games. in 2001, 2002 and 2004 kobe carried the Lakers past the spurs. and kings and showed he could beat the best teams in the league as the best player in the series. lebron never showed that till 2012
Nice deflection
And "carried" shaq lol. When wade & co play like ass with Lebron that means Lebron held them back, when prime Shaq plays somewhat worse than Kobe that's "carrying".
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:08 AM
Nice deflection
And "carried" shaq lol. When wade & co play like ass with Lebron that means Lebron held them back, when prime Shaq plays somewhat worse than Kobe that's "carrying".
shaq was notorious for coming up small vs other legendary teams and players. he only ever really dominated the east when it was trash. he's kind of overrated
shaq was a mental midget
SouBeachTalents
12-02-2021, 09:17 AM
man you know.good and well kobe averaged 28ppg for his career. 3rd all time behind jordan and wilt not counting his first 2 benched seasons for becoming the first non big out of highschool. up till the achilles injury he averaged 28ppg over a 15 year stretch from age 20 on. basically an entire career. and over that span he had a 1.30 point per shot like MJ
had kobe gone to college and not played on.1 leg then he is basically jordan and wilt scoring average wise
But all the Finals occurred in his prime, and he was absolutely atrocious in every elimination game from 2003-2011, also during his prime.
shaq was notorious for coming up small vs other legendary teams and players. he only ever really dominated the east when it was trash. he's kind of overrated
shaq was a mental midget
Right, what a bum. Poor Kobe had to carry him on his back, imagine if Kobe ever played with alltime greats like Kyrie and Knee-Wade
But all the Finals occurred in his prime, and he was absolutely atrocious in every elimination game from 2003-2011, also during his prime.
But you see we can’t count 04 as his prime because uh uh uh Colorado trial distracted him, and we can’t count 05 because uh he was injured and not trying and we can’t count anything after 09 either because he didn’t do well enough. So basically his prime was from 2006-2009. Wow what a long prime.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:41 AM
But all the Finals occurred in his prime, and he was absolutely atrocious in every elimination game from 2003-2011, also during his prime.
for the 1 billionth time. literally every finals kobe played in he had a sprain/dislocation/torn ligament/fracture or was recovering from food poisoning
and also for the millionth time. every perimeter player shot worse back in the day during the finals cause the refs let way more go. even Jordan's last 3 titles were poor for his standards
every guy kobe defended in every single finals shot 35 to.40% too
reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's
enough. this subject is so damn repetitive
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:43 AM
But you see we can’t count 04 as his prime because uh uh uh Colorado trial distracted him, and we can’t count 05 because uh he was injured and not trying and we can’t count anything after 09 either because he didn’t do well enough. So basically his prime was from 2006-2009. Wow what a long prime.
kobes prime was 2001 to 2009.. 2004 and 2005 were just injury plagued seasons full of bad luck with off court things and coaches stepping down/rosters being overhauled
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:45 AM
Right, what a bum. Poor Kobe had to carry him on his back, imagine if Kobe ever played with alltime greats like Kyrie and Knee-Wade
please don't talk about who had more help in their careers lol
kobe had shaq and gasol
lebron had wade, bosh, Allen, kyrie, love and Davis
all guys who were mvp caliber players on their own before lebron sabotaged them. and now he has Westbrook
lebron even had an allstar mvp level shaq and turned him into a dumpster. same with big Z.
lebron is the eater of worlds
please don't talk about who had more help in their careers lol
kobe had shaq and gasol
lebron had wade, bosh, Allen, kyrie, love and Davis
all guys who were mvp caliber players on their own before lebron sabotaged them
Yep. None of those guys should be compared to Shaq, the choking bum.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:49 AM
Yep. All those guys shouldn't be compared to Shaq, the choking bum.
when you have a wade/bosh their production is equal or greater than shaqs. same with kyrie and love. or davis and rondo. or davis and Westbrook
lebron never just has a sidekick. he has a side combo
he'll he had a side trio in 2013 and 2014
kobes prime was 2001 to 2009.. 2004 and 2005 were just injury plagued seasons full of bad luck with off court things and coaches stepping down/rosters being overhauled
Yikes only a 7 year prime (04 and 05 don’t count you said it yourself). Sad. LeBron’s was a beefy 12 years (arguably more)
SATAN
12-02-2021, 09:52 AM
kobe made it possible for a lebron james to exist. that's what you dont get. if not for kobe/tmac/garnett then lebrons drafted further down and ends up on a better team.and gets less shots cause they would be in playoff contention
LeBron James had nothing. No chance if not for hard work and due diligence. Now generally recognized as TOP 2. Kobe grew up with money and tried to copy Michael Jordan. He failed btw.
Tell me how it was KOBE who made it possible for LeBron to exist, Richy Rich.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:52 AM
Yikes a 7 year prime (04 and 05 don’t count you said it yourself). Sad.
that's the length of nearly every prime anyone's ever had. I guess 2010 is also sorta his prime. he was great up till that game 7
so an 8 year prime or so. about the same as any other legend that didn't take roids
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 09:56 AM
LeBron James had nothing. No chance if not for hard work and due diligence. Now generally recognized as TOP 2. Kobe grew up with money and tried to copy Michael Jordan. He failed btw.
Tell me how it was KOBE who made it possible for LeBron to exist, Richy Rich.
without Kobe, tmac and garnett proving highschoolers can be trusted and turn into greats without college influence then lebrons never given the pre draft ranking he got. people woulda just scoffed at his production and said it's cause hes playing kids half his size with nowhere near his athleticism.
lebron falls down the draft order and ends up on a team.where he has to prove himself like kobe did to get into the starting lineup. then maybe his raw abilities are suffocated. he probly ends up emerging the way giannis did over a longer period of time.
that's how kobe made lebron
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 10:00 AM
people forget just how bad LeBron was his rookie year. he had a lower point per shot than Kobe after his Achilles injury in 2014
he was actually one of the worst players in the nba efficiency wise. if it were the 90s he gets benched
that's the length of nearly every prime anyone's ever had. I guess 2010 is also sorta his prime. he was great up till that game 7
so an 8 year prime or so. about the same as any other legend that didn't take roids
Even Jordan had a longer prime than that and he took off two years at his apex :oldlol:
Your much hated Shaq had a longer prime than that lmao
SATAN
12-02-2021, 10:18 AM
without Kobe, tmac and garnett proving highschoolers can be trusted and turn into greats
Stopped here. You are 3ball.
Wally450
12-02-2021, 10:27 AM
What a low IQ thread.
Manny98
12-02-2021, 11:02 AM
No he's not at all top ten
Kawhi
Paul George
LeBron
Davis
Luka
Jokic
Curry
Lillard
Durant
Harden
Butler
Giannis
Middleton
Chris Paul
Embiid
This is already 15
Then
Trae
Tatum
Morant
Klay
Booker
Mitchell
Brown
Bam
Gobert
Poole
Simmons
Murray
Mitchell
Kyrie
...
LaMelo is not even top 30 bro
Melo is on the same level/better than the bolded
ShawkFactory
12-02-2021, 11:15 AM
Melo is on the same level/better than the bolded
Like...right now?
outofstomach
12-02-2021, 11:44 AM
for the 1 billionth time. literally every finals kobe played in he had a sprain/dislocation/torn ligament/fracture or was recovering from food poisoning
and also for the millionth time. every perimeter player shot worse back in the day during the finals cause the refs let way more go. even Jordan's last 3 titles were poor for his standards
every guy kobe defended in every single finals shot 35 to.40% too
reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's
enough. this subject is so damn repetitive
why did no one respond to this
Like...right now?
I mean he’s absolutely better than Poole lol. Who the **** thinks Poole is top 30 lmfao. For what it’s worth LaMelo is top 5 in the entire NBA in RAPTOR rating, his impact stats are killer.
ShawkFactory
12-02-2021, 12:44 PM
I mean he’s absolutely better than Poole lol. Who the **** thinks Poole is top 30 lmfao. For what it’s worth LaMelo is top 5 in the entire NBA in RAPTOR rating, his impact stats are killer.
I mean yea but that’s...probably it. He’s still too inconsistent with his jumper and on D to make a huge impact every night.
I mean yea but that’s...probably it. He’s still too inconsistent with his jumper and on D to make a huge impact every night.
He is factually making a huge impact every night tho :confusedshrug:
He’s certainly been better than Tatum thus far and he’s definitely a better floor raiser than Booker, Brown, Murray or Mitchell already. I think there’s also a good chance he’ll be more valuable than Ben and Rudy in the playoffs. I’m super high on LaMelo. He’s just a stud.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 01:10 PM
Even Jordan had a longer prime than that and he took off two years at his apex :oldlol:
Your much hated Shaq had a longer prime than that lmao
what? Jordan's prime was 88 to 93
he wasn't nearly as good during during 2nd three peat. he won mvps due to his popularity but it was obvious he was past his prime
if we're just talking elite seasons then kobe has more. 11 first team all nbas to Jordan's 10
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 01:11 PM
Stopped here. You are 3ball.
glad you realized I was right
tontoz
12-02-2021, 01:18 PM
I don't have a strong opinion on Lamelo one way or the other but his 2pt% of 44% is pretty weak.
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 01:49 PM
I don't have a strong opinion on Lamelo one way or the other but his 2pt% of 44% is pretty weak.
1998 mvp jordan =54%ts
luka doncic this year =54%ts
lamelo ball this year = 54%ts
tontoz
12-02-2021, 01:56 PM
1998 mvp jordan =54%ts
luka doncic this year =54%ts
lamelo ball this year = 54%ts
Not really relevant to what i posted.
First of all the 90s aren't comparable to today and Jordan didn't shoot 3s much. He did routinely shoot over 50% on 2s.
Secondly Luka had a TS of 58.7% last year in spite of spamming tough, contested 3s . Luka is currently shooting 51.8% on 2s, 56.7% last year.
Lamelo is taking a lot of 3s and shooting them well but both he and Lonzo seem to struggle inside the arc for whatever reason. I havent watched them enough to know why. Lamelo is shooting 44% on 2s which is pretty lame but similar to Lonzo.
GrayGoat
12-02-2021, 02:39 PM
Jordan Poole is much better
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 04:57 PM
Not really relevant to what i posted.
First of all the 90s aren't comparable to today and Jordan didn't shoot 3s much. He did routinely shoot over 50% on 2s.
Secondly Luka had a TS of 58.7% last year in spite of spamming tough, contested 3s . Luka is currently shooting 51.8% on 2s, 56.7% last year.
Lamelo is taking a lot of 3s and shooting them well but both he and Lonzo seem to struggle inside the arc for whatever reason. I havent watched them enough to know why. Lamelo is shooting 44% on 2s which is pretty lame but similar to Lonzo.
how is true shooting% not relevant to your 2pt fg% point. theyre efficiency statistics. There is literally nothing more relatable
HunterSThompson
12-02-2021, 04:58 PM
Jordan Poole is much better
he isn't even a better shooter and that's all Poole does
ShawkFactory
12-02-2021, 05:11 PM
how is true shooting% not relevant to your 2pt fg% point. theyre efficiency statistics. There is literally nothing more relatable
Because he’s shooting really well from 3. What if that slumps?
tontoz
12-02-2021, 05:43 PM
how is true shooting% not relevant to your 2pt fg% point. theyre efficiency statistics. There is literally nothing more relatable
Because i didn't mention TS. I only mentioned his 2pt% which is low just like his brother. Top 10 players don't have 2pt% that low.
Doncic already has 2 full seasons scoring a lot of points with good efficiency (58%+ TS). Lamelo hasn't.
SATAN
12-02-2021, 07:38 PM
glad you realized I was right
Moses Malone, Shawn Kemp...
Casual.
what? Jordan's prime was 88 to 93
he wasn't nearly as good during during 2nd three peat. he won mvps due to his popularity but it was obvious he was past his prime
if we're just talking elite seasons then kobe has more. 11 first team all nbas to Jordan's 10
Lying meltdown.
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