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hold this L
11-25-2021, 02:28 AM
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They're currently 16-2 and obviously a lot will depend on health. They also have had an easier schedule then most, still yet to play Jazz, Suns for example. But say they hit 70 wins again, does that put the Chef as the de facto #1 best regular season player of all time? Lets look at some facts.

- Warriors have gotten 67 wins 3 times. Also have 73 wins as the goat RS season
- 67 wins has been reached 13 times in total in NBA history, making Warriors grab 23% of it already


https://www.landofbasketball.com/statistics/best_seasons.htm


Comparisons:
Steph: 73, 67, 67
MJ: 72, 69, 67

Nobody else comes close. You have situations like Dirk grabbing 67 once, Kawhi once, Shaq/Kobe, once or if you go back far enough with two 67-win seasons. But legitimately speaking, only these two are on the same level of success during the regular season in terms of historical value.

000
11-25-2021, 02:30 AM
Does the goat RS player become the goat RS player? Yeah I'd say so

RRR3
11-25-2021, 02:33 AM
They’re not winning 70. Absolute cupcake schedule so far lmao. Easiest in the league iirc

Baller789
11-25-2021, 02:46 AM
They’re not winning 70. Absolute cupcake schedule so far lmao. Easiest in the league iirc

That's not even the question

Axe
11-25-2021, 02:49 AM
Thank you for the majestic turnaround, andre iguodala. :cheers:

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Stephonit
11-25-2021, 03:14 AM
Thank you for the majestic turnaround, andre iguodala. :cheers:

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Axe abandoning the "no Klay, no play" line. Even he sees where this is heading.

Axe
11-25-2021, 03:22 AM
Axe abandoning the "no Klay, no play" line. Even he sees where this is heading.
I mean believe what you want but andre iguodala is truly a lucky charm. He made the finals with the miami heat last year during the 2020 disney bubble, never mind if they lost. Now the warriors became dominant once again because he made his return to their lineup.

SouBeachTalents
11-25-2021, 09:40 AM
Even if the Dubs get to 67+ wins, Wilt & Jordan would still have very strong arguments to make this claim. Jordan also has 3 seasons of 67+ wins, 10 scoring titles & 5 MVP’s, while Wilt broke the all time win record twice on two different teams, led the longest winning streak in NBA history, won 4 MVP’s, and in addition to 7 scoring titles led the league in both rebounding and assists. Let’s not forget they’re also the only 2 players to average 30 ppg for their career in the regular season.

If the Warriors continue at this pace, I think Curry locks himself into the top 3, where imo you could argue any of the 3 as the greatest regular season player of all time.

Bronbron23
11-25-2021, 10:02 AM
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They're currently 16-2 and obviously a lot will depend on health. They also have had an easier schedule then most, still yet to play Jazz, Suns for example. But say they hit 70 wins again, does that put the Chef as the de facto #1 best regular season player of all time? Lets look at some facts.

- Warriors have gotten 67 wins 3 times. Also have 73 wins as the goat RS season
- 67 wins has been reached 13 times in total in NBA history, making Warriors grab 23% of it already


https://www.landofbasketball.com/statistics/best_seasons.htm


Comparisons:
Steph: 73, 67, 67
MJ: 72, 69, 67

Nobody else comes close. You have situations like Dirk grabbing 67 once, Kawhi once, Shaq/Kobe, once or if you go back far enough with two 67-win seasons. But legitimately speaking, only these two are on the same level of success during the regular season in terms of historical value.

They aren't winning 70 dude and no mj won a scoring title, first team defense, dpoy, and mvp in one year.

hold this L
11-25-2021, 10:07 AM
Even if the Dubs get to 67+ wins, Wilt & Jordan would still have very strong arguments to make this claim. Jordan also has 3 seasons of 67+ wins, 10 scoring titles & 5 MVP’s, while Wilt broke the all time win record twice on two different teams, led the longest winning streak in NBA history, won 4 MVP’s, and in addition to 7 scoring titles led the league in both rebounding and assists. Let’s not forget they’re also the only 2 players to average 30 ppg for their career in the regular season.

If the Warriors continue at this pace, I think Curry locks himself into the top 3, where imo you could argue any of the 3 as the greatest regular season player of all time.

Wilt played in a garbage watered down era, everything he and Bill have done is rightfully overvalued. Otherwise, Bill would be the goat by a massive margin and it wouldn't be close, which nobody even puts him in the conversation of top 3. I don't see how Curry isn't top 3 right now, he has the goat RS season and 2 other legendary seasons.

hold this L
11-25-2021, 10:08 AM
They aren't winning 70 dude and no mj won a scoring title, first team defense, dpoy, and mvp in one year.

And Steph only won MVP and yet had more impact than MJ did to lead his team to 73.

ImKobe
11-25-2021, 10:09 AM
They could very well win 70 games but Curry's not MJ-level because of his size & defense.

hold this L
11-25-2021, 10:21 AM
They could very well win 70 games but Curry's not MJ-level because of his size & defense.

And yet still more impactful and successful if they get to 70.

ImKobe
11-25-2021, 10:29 AM
And yet still more impactful and successful if they get to 70.

MJ has had a far more successful RS career dude, don't do this to yourself. RS win totals are based on TEAM success & health/luck. Maybe the Bulls win 70+ 3 years in a row if Rodman (who missed 18 games in '96, 27 games in '97) and Pippen (who missed 38 games in '98) don't miss games?

8Ball
11-25-2021, 10:29 AM
Settle down there.

We in Nov and yall talking about 70 wins.

tontoz
11-25-2021, 12:31 PM
I mean believe what you want but andre iguodala is truly a lucky charm. He made the finals with the miami heat last year during the 2020 disney bubble, never mind if they lost. Now the warriors became dominant once again because he made his return to their lineup.

:facepalm

Iggy has missed 6 games and they won all of them. even in the games he played he is averaging only 4 ppg

Axe
11-25-2021, 02:44 PM
:facepalm

Iggy has missed 6 games and they won all of them. even in the games he played he is averaging only 4 ppg
Iggy may not have played some games but it can't be overlooked that his team haven't won this much without him in the last two seasons.

tontoz
11-25-2021, 03:32 PM
Iggy may not have played some games but it can't be overlooked that his team haven't won this much without him in the last two seasons.


Miami is doing just fine without him, currently tied for the 2nd seed.

Axe
11-25-2021, 03:36 PM
Miami is doing just fine without him, currently tied for the 2nd seed.
I meant the warriors lol. But the heat did not also make the playoffs in 2019.

tontoz
11-25-2021, 03:51 PM
I meant the warriors lol. But the heat did not also make the playoffs in 2019.


Lol of course the warriors struggled two years ago. That is because Steph and Klay were both out hurt. That wasn't because of Iggy.

They didn't bring Iggy back for the regular season. They brought him back to guard stat players in the playoffs (Luka, pg13, Kawhi, LeBron).

Axe
11-25-2021, 11:50 PM
Lol of course the warriors struggled two years ago. That is because Steph and Klay were both out hurt. That wasn't because of Iggy.

They didn't bring Iggy back for the regular season. They brought him back to guard stat players in the playoffs (Luka, pg13, Kawhi, LeBron).
Maybe but he's still currently in warriors uniform rn. And it so happened that the dubs are dominating the league as well atm. Which puts things into perspective.

3ba11
11-25-2021, 11:57 PM
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They're currently 16-2 and obviously a lot will depend on health. They also have had an easier schedule then most, still yet to play Jazz, Suns for example. But say they hit 70 wins again, does that put the Chef as the de facto #1 best regular season player of all time? Lets look at some facts.

- Warriors have gotten 67 wins 3 times. Also have 73 wins as the goat RS season
- 67 wins has been reached 13 times in total in NBA history, making Warriors grab 23% of it already


https://www.landofbasketball.com/statistics/best_seasons.htm


Comparisons:
Steph: 73, 67, 67
MJ: 72, 69, 67

Nobody else comes close. You have situations like Dirk grabbing 67 once, Kawhi once, Shaq/Kobe, once or if you go back far enough with two 67-win seasons. But legitimately speaking, only these two are on the same level of success during the regular season in terms of historical value.


The goat 3-point shooter and the goat 2-point shooter needed the least offensive help to win the most

iamgine
11-26-2021, 12:28 AM
GOAT RS player is not determined by wins but by how they play. David Robinson was probably the GOAT regular season player.

Baller789
11-26-2021, 01:02 AM
Maybe but he's still currently in warriors uniform rn. And it so happened that the dubs are dominating the league as well atm. Which puts things into perspective.

Still trying to repeatedly throw your point to the wall and hope it sticks eh slick?

Your argument has been disproven by tontoz already.

Give it up.

HBK_Kliq_2
11-26-2021, 01:22 AM
I would say that goes to kawhi:

- Best home record ever at 40-1 in 2016

- successful with multiple coaches and franchises, instead of always riding Kerr/draymond like curry does

- VORP leader of 7 different top 3 srs teams (14,15,16,17,19,20,21)

RRR3
11-26-2021, 01:38 AM
I would say duhhhhhhh durrrrr hyuk ga durrrr
:lol

tontoz
11-26-2021, 09:20 AM
I would say that goes to kawhi:

- Best home record ever at 40-1 in 2016

- successful with multiple coaches and franchises, instead of always riding Kerr/draymond like curry does

- VORP leader of 7 different top 3 srs teams (14,15,16,17,19,20,21)


He can't be the best regular season player on the bench. His cheerleading skills aren't up to par.

LeCola
11-26-2021, 10:30 AM
I would say that goes to kawhi:

- Best home record ever at 40-1 in 2016

- successful with multiple coaches and franchises, instead of always riding Kerr/draymond like curry does

- VORP leader of 7 different top 3 srs teams (14,15,16,17,19,20,21)

Kwahi played only 576 RS games in 11 seasons.

His career average is 19.2/6.4/2.9.

:oldlol:

Bronbron23
11-26-2021, 12:09 PM
And Steph only won MVP and yet had more impact than MJ did to lead his team to 73.

Whatever makes you feel better buddy but at the end of the day steph dosn't have enough of anything to be in the convo with bron and mj. I mean damn dude did you see the way bron treated steph that year in the finals? It was like steph was his child. I honestly felt bad for steph.

obviously your looking for something to make you feel better about your guy and you know you can't look to the post season so your hanging your hat on the meaningless reg season. Honestly i could care less about the regular season so i'll concede the argument. Around here we only really care about post season impact anyway. Enjoy your kids choice regular season achievement buddy:oldlol:

Prometheus
11-26-2021, 04:15 PM
Whatever makes you feel better buddy but at the end of the day steph dosn't have enough of anything to be in the convo with bron and mj. I mean damn dude did you see the way bron treated steph that year in the finals? It was like steph was his child. I honestly felt bad for steph.

obviously your looking for something to make you feel better about your guy and you know you can't look to the post season so your hanging your hat on the meaningless reg season. Honestly i could care less about the regular season so i'll concede the argument. Around here we only really care about post season impact anyway. Enjoy your kids choice regular season achievement buddy:oldlol:

tl;dr: yes

hold this L
11-26-2021, 05:47 PM
Whatever makes you feel better buddy but at the end of the day steph dosn't have enough of anything to be in the convo with bron and mj. I mean damn dude did you see the way bron treated steph that year in the finals? It was like steph was his child. I honestly felt bad for steph.

obviously your looking for something to make you feel better about your guy and you know you can't look to the post season so your hanging your hat on the meaningless reg season. Honestly i could care less about the regular season so i'll concede the argument. Around here we only really care about post season impact anyway. Enjoy your kids choice regular season achievement buddy:oldlol:
This idiot is still triggered that MJ's legendary season is a footnote in the NBA after 2016

999Guy
11-26-2021, 06:58 PM
GOAT RS player is not determined by wins but by how they play. David Robinson was probably the GOAT regular season player.

And literally.

Baller789
11-26-2021, 08:51 PM
This idiot is still triggered that MJ's legendary season is a footnote in the NBA after 2016

Which legendary season?

hold this L
11-27-2021, 02:19 AM
17-2, but it's definitely been a cupcake schedule playing easy teams like OKC, Rockets, Nets, etc.

Clippers sunday and then monster B2B with the Suns. Hoping for a 2-1 run.


Which legendary season?
72-10 season being the goat RS season.

Axe
11-27-2021, 02:35 AM
Still trying to repeatedly throw your point to the wall and hope it sticks eh slick?

Your argument has been disproven by tontoz already.

Give it up.
No, i won't give up unless you stop trashing lebron bitch. ;)

Baller789
11-27-2021, 02:38 AM
No, i won't give up unless you stop trashing lebron bitch. ;)

Was your argument debunked by tontoz?

Yes or no?

Baller789
11-27-2021, 02:42 AM
72-10 season being the goat RS season.

As they say...
70 don't mean $+@+ if you don't win the damn RING.

Axe
11-27-2021, 02:46 AM
Whatever makes you feel better buddy but at the end of the day steph dosn't have enough of anything to be in the convo with bron and mj. I mean damn dude did you see the way bron treated steph that year in the finals? It was like steph was his child. I honestly felt bad for steph.

obviously your looking for something to make you feel better about your guy and you know you can't look to the post season so your hanging your hat on the meaningless reg season. Honestly i could care less about the regular season so i'll concede the argument. Around here we only really care about post season impact anyway. Enjoy your kids choice regular season achievement buddy:oldlol:
+1

Stephen curry had a superteam mostly composed of several all-stars when they were the team to beat in the league. There were even five of them from the 2018 all-star selections including him when the 2019 finals happened against the raptors. But when most of them were unavailable in their lineup (kd, klay, iggy, boogie) after they were defeated rt, he was only good for the 9th seed. The 2016 postseason showed to us all that the warriors were still formidable even if he missed some games before they met the cavs for the second time in the 2016 finals. Contrary to what his stans believe, what this means is that he didn't carry his team to prominence all alone. He had useful guys like the other players included in the so-called 'death lineup' and hof-bound head coach as well.

Axe
11-27-2021, 02:47 AM
Was your argument debunked by tontoz?

Yes or no?
No, because it doesn't show that the warriors made the playoffs nor were this dominant while iggy was gone.

Baller789
11-27-2021, 04:49 AM
No, because it doesn't show that the warriors made the playoffs nor were this dominant while iggy was gone.

So the injuries to Steph and Klay had a smaller impact than a role player right?
I love when you try to fit a square peg in a round hole. :oldlol:

Axe
11-27-2021, 04:54 AM
So the injuries to Steph and Klay had a smaller impact than a role player right?
I love when you try to fit a square peg in a round hole. :oldlol:
Huh, i never said anything like that but you're stupid to think such thought though. :facepalm

RRR3
11-27-2021, 05:00 AM
17-2, but it's definitely been a cupcake schedule playing easy teams like OKC, Rockets, Nets, etc.

Clippers sunday and then monster B2B with the Suns. Hoping for a 2-1 run.


72-10 season being the goat RS season.
:biggums:

Baller789
11-27-2021, 06:34 AM
I mean believe what you want but andre iguodala is truly a lucky charm. He made the finals with the miami heat last year during the 2020 disney bubble, never mind if they lost. Now the warriors became dominant once again because he made his return to their lineup.


Huh, i never said anything like that but you're stupid to think such thought though. :facepalm

Yes because you don't happen to have an agenda against Curry right?
:violin:

tontoz
11-27-2021, 01:39 PM
+1

Stephen curry had a superteam mostly composed of several all-stars when they were the team to beat in the league. There were even five of them from the 2018 all-star selections including him when the 2019 finals happened against the raptors. But when most of them were unavailable in their lineup (kd, klay, iggy, boogie) after they were defeated rt, he was only good for the 9th seed. The 2016 postseason showed to us all that the warriors were still formidable even if he missed some games before they met the cavs for the second time in the 2016 finals. Contrary to what his stans believe, what this means is that he didn't carry his team to prominence all alone. He had useful guys like the other players included in the so-called 'death lineup' and hof-bound head coach as well.


Wrong. They were the 8 seed after the regular season was over, not the 9 seed. Without the play in games they would have been in the playoffs in spite of being 2-7 in the games Curry missed.

000
11-27-2021, 01:43 PM
Hey Axe, what do crayons taste like?

Wally450
11-27-2021, 01:50 PM
Yes he would. Plain and simple. Another MVP coming his way if he does.

Bronbron23
11-27-2021, 02:41 PM
This idiot is still triggered that MJ's legendary season is a footnote in the NBA after 2016

Yes it is a footnote dummy. It's just a regular session achievement. It dosnt matter that much

hold this L
11-28-2021, 11:09 PM
18-2 vs a 16-win streak Suns in a B2B. Two best teams in the league about to go blow for blow. I'd love Steph to son one of his favorite children CP3, but I don't know if the boys win both of them. I say a split, not sure which teams win where.



As they say...
70 don't mean $+@+ if you don't win the damn RING.
Overall it's fair, but we're talking about RS. It has that insecure MJ stan fuming that one of Jordan's greatest achievements was essentially

https://c.tenor.com/xjz_SE0yqXQAAAAM/peace-disappear.gif

in 2016


:biggums:
Things are gravy baby, can't help but talk that shit. Just need to pray for a healthy season!

Axe
11-29-2021, 07:07 AM
:roll: