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ELITEpower23
11-20-2021, 09:14 AM
Was it Tristan Thompson in 2016? :oldlol:

Or was it the King himself? #GoatShit

expansionera
11-20-2021, 09:19 AM
Look at the amount of all defensive selections MJ’s teammates had, then compare them to Lebron’s. It’s clear Jordan stacked the deck with the highest caliber first ballot Hall of Fame unselfish defensive help and made sure to take all the credit (and shots) on offense.

No one was more propped up than Jordan

ELITEpower23
11-20-2021, 09:20 AM
Look at the amount of all defensive selections MJ’s teammates had, then compare them to Lebron’s. It’s clear Jordan stacked the deck with the highest caliber first ballot Hall of Fame unselfish defensive help and made sure to take all the credit (and shots) on offense.

No one was more propped up than Jordan

Big facts :applause:

MJ was the 90s Warriors with all the help in the world.

LeCola
11-20-2021, 10:02 AM
Those teams without Lebron are much better than MJ's any team without him.

ELITEpower23
11-20-2021, 12:05 PM
Those teams without Lebron are much better than MJ's any team without him.

94 Pip = 3rd in MVP votes, 55 wins

VS.

11 Cavs = 30th seed
15 Wade = Pitiful
18 Kyrie = 0 MVP votes

kawhileonard2
11-20-2021, 12:57 PM
Those teams without Lebron are much better than MJ's any team without him.

Yep Wade won a finals mvp before Lebron ever came. Also Lebron with Shaq made round 2 while Wade with Shaq won a title and Kobe with Shaq won 3 titles.
Lebron with Ben Wallace got to the conference finals and Billups with Ben Wallace won a title.
Lebron with Carlos Boozer no playoffs while Deron Williams with Boozer got to the conference finals.
Lebron with Mvp in Rose lost while Steph with Mvp Durant won.

Can go on and on.

ELITEpower23
11-20-2021, 05:02 PM
We know MJ had Pip/Rodman to save him.

Who was LBJ's defensive anchor in '12, '13, '16?

ImKobe
11-20-2021, 05:03 PM
MJ was the only DPOY besides Rodman on the Bulls and Rodman was past his prime and a complete headcase by the time he joined MJ. Lebron wishes he had a DPOY and as many All-Defensive selections as MJ, who was 9x All-Defensive in 11 full seasons in Chicago while Bron is 6x in 18 years.

ELITEpower23
11-20-2021, 05:10 PM
MJ was the only DPOY besides Rodman on the Bulls and Rodman was past his prime and a complete headcase by the time he joined MJ. Lebron wishes he had a DPOY and as many All-Defensive selections as MJ, who was 9x All-Defensive in 11 full seasons in Chicago while Bron is 6x in 18 years.

Who.
Was.
LeBron's.
Defensive.
Anchor.
In.
2012?
2013?
2016?

Thanks.

ImKobe
11-20-2021, 05:16 PM
Who.
Was.
LeBron's.
Defensive.
Anchor.
In.
2012?
2013?
2016?

Thanks.

Wade and Bosh in 2012/13

TT in 2016, he was unstoppable on the boards and their best rim protector. Warriors played small so Lebron had a lot of impact as well but he wasn't the Cavs' best defensive player overall.

Hey Yo
11-20-2021, 05:20 PM
MJ was the only DPOY besides Rodman on the Bulls and Rodman was past his prime and a complete headcase by the time he joined MJ. Lebron wishes he had a DPOY and as many All-Defensive selections as MJ, who was 9x All-Defensive in 11 full seasons in Chicago while Bron is 6x in 18 years.
So how did he make All-Defensive 1st team in 96', get FMVP votes in 96' and lead the league in rebounding all 3 seasons with Chicago?

ImKobe
11-20-2021, 05:30 PM
So how did he make All-Defensive 1st team in 96', get FMVP votes in 96' and lead the league in rebounding all 3 seasons with Chicago?

He missed 18 and 27 games in '96, '97 and his Playoff numbers declined and he had issues off the court. He wasn't that good in the '97 & '98 POs. He was still a good defender but his offense fell off a cliff so they were playing 4 on 5 with him offensively. He averaged just 8 rebounds in '97 and '98 Finals.

AirBonner
11-20-2021, 05:32 PM
Rodman was completely washed up when he joined the bulls…yet he still got fmvp votes lolol

ImKobe
11-20-2021, 05:37 PM
Rodman was completely washed up when he joined the bulls…yet he still got fmvp votes lolol

FMVP is voted by 11 media members.. Who did Rodman stop in the '96 Finals? Kemp destroyed the Bulls lol.

AirBonner
11-20-2021, 05:41 PM
FMVP is voted by 11 media members.. Who did Rodman stop in the '96 Finals? Kemp destroyed the Bulls lol.

Kemp destroyed them so bad they didn’t even play a game 7