What if MJ sacked up and made more Finals instead of his 1-9 and quitting episodes?

[ELITEpower23]

All of the all time greats made more Finals than Jordan

[RogueBorg]

All of the all time greats made more Finals than Jordan

ALL of them?

[000]

All of the all time greats made more Finals than Jordan

They also lost more finals than him

[theman93]

Did they all win more Finals than Jordan too?

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[ELITEpower23]

ALL of them?

Russell x12
LeBron x10
Kareem x10
West x10
Magic x9
Kobe x7
Wilt x6

[RogueBorg]

Russell x12
LeBron x10
Kareem x10
West x10
Magic x9
Kobe x7
Wilt x6

Is Bird an all-time great?
How about Duncan?
Shaq?
Dr. J?
Should I continue noob?

[TheMan]

Russell x12
LeBron x10
Kareem x10
West x10
Magic x9
Kobe x7
Wilt x6

And yet only Russell has more RINGS than MJ from that group, KAJ and MJ being tied but MJ gets the tiebreaker with more FMVPs

[RogueBorg]

Russell x12
LeBron x10
Kareem x10
West x10
Magic x9
Kobe x7
Wilt x6

LOL and no one on that list other than Russell has more rings than Jordan. Good job.

[RogueBorg]

And yet only Russell has more RINGS than MJ from that group, KAJ and MJ being tied but MJ gets the tiebreaker with more FMVPs

:applause:

You beat me to it

[Airupthere]

And yet only Russell has more RINGS than MJ from that group, KAJ and MJ being tied but MJ gets the tiebreaker with more FMVPs

Lol, but we should be counting silvers and bronzes right?

[TheMan]

Lol, but we should be counting silvers and bronzes right?

That's what wrong with the younger generation, they want participation awards :facepalm Jim Kelly led the Bills to an unprecedented 4 straight superbowls and has zero rings to show for it, never hear his name being tossed around in the GOAT QB discussion. He was a damn good QB too but imagine had he won a few or if he managed 4 straight chips, he would undoubtedly be in the GOAT discussion.

[Hey Yo]

LOL @ dumbasses who think it's better to not play for a title.

[Hey Yo]

That's what wrong with the younger generation, they want participation awards :facepalm Jim Kelly led the Bills to an unprecedented 4 straight superbowls and has zero rings to show for it, never hear his name being tossed around in the GOAT QB discussion. He was a damn good QB too but imagine had he won a few or if he managed 4 straight chips, he would undoubtedly be in the GOAT discussion.

Ask Jim Kelly if he regrets playing in those superbowls.

[Airupthere]

Ask Jim Kelly if he regrets playing in those superbowls.

Not regretting being in the finals is one thing. Celebrating it as a form of victory is another. I dont think anyone (barkley, malone, miller) ever really regrets reaching the finals. But they don't call themselves "winners" because they reached the second to the highest place. If anything they might consider that memory as difficult because they knew they could have won if they just did a few more things differently. There is dissatisfaction in those memories because you want to win in the finals. You dont revel being in second place.

[Hey Yo]

4 rings 4 FMVP 4 MVP.

What's your definition of a winner?

[ELITEpower23]

And yet only Russell has more RINGS than MJ from that group, KAJ and MJ being tied but MJ gets the tiebreaker with more FMVPs

Careful on ring talk

Russell has nearly double MJ's rings
LeBron has nearly double MJ's playoff points

[The Closer]

Lebron stans are the only stans in sport that celebrate coming 2nd

Who cares if you made the finals if you didn't win it all

[Hey Yo]

Lebron stans are the only stans in sport that celebrate coming 2nd

Who cares if you made the finals if you didn't win it all

Having the chance of winning >>> watching at home. It's not rocket science, chico.

[kawhileonard2]

4 rings 4 FMVP 4 MVP.

What's your definition of a winner?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for/page2

Dynasty for franchise that drafted you

[ELITEpower23]

Lebron stans are the only stans in sport that celebrate coming 2nd

Who cares if you made the finals if you didn't win it all

Real winners lose early? No, not correct.

[Gudo]

Real winners lose early? No, not correct.

When you are favored to win, then win. That is the point. When you are favored to win but lose and you going missing like in 2011, that is not a winner.

[ELITEpower23]

When you are favored to win, then win. That is the point. When you are favored to win but lose and you going missing like in 2011, that is not a winner.

2011? Just pretend LeBron was swept in the 1st round. Better now?

[The Closer]

Having the chance of winning >>> watching at home. It's not rocket science, chico.

Obviously but at the end of the day you still didn't win so it's nothing to brag about

[The Closer]

Real winners lose early? No, not correct.

Real winners win everything

It doesn't matter if you lost in the first round or lost in the finals, a loss is a loss

[Hey Yo]

Obviously but at the end of the day you still didn't win so it's nothing to brag about

Who's bragging about losing?

Why is taking almost 2yrs off due to mental and physical fatigue being praised?

[Hey Yo]

Real winners win everything

It doesn't matter if you lost in the first round or lost in the finals, a loss is a loss
Ask a role players wallet if it matters what round it'd rather lose in.

[The Closer]

Who's bragging about losing?

Why is taking almost 2yrs off due to mental and physical fatigue being praised?
OP is literally bringing up the fact that Lebron made more finals than Jordan like it's something to brag about

Jordan has 6 rings, Lebron has 4 that's all that matters

Making 4 more finals doesn't mean f*ck all if you don't have the rings to show for it

Yes making the finals is a bigger achievement than losing in the first round but not to the extent Lebron stans make it out to be

[Gudo]

2011? Just pretend LeBron was swept in the 1st round. Better now?

It's the same. Lebron assembled a superteam and was expected to win not 7 championships. Lest you forget, they were expected to dominate the league. Point is. It's fine to lose whether in the 1st round or the finals or not make the PO's at all, however the circumstances must align. The 2011 superteam should have won and they didn't. That is a big blow. That is not tantamount to lebron losing to the spurs in 2007. People dont complain about that.

[Spurs m8]

Jordan got this alt on a leash....

Still suffering from that first round exit and LeExposure?

[And1AllDay]

2011? Just pretend LeBron was swept in the 1st round. Better now?

:oldlol: legacy booster :roll:

[2much_knowledge]

All of the all time greats made more Finals than Jordan

Another lame theread to the collection

If he doesn't retire, then the gap would've been even bigger and most of yall would have no reason for existence

[TheMan]

Real winners lose early? No, not correct.

Real winners win it all, losing in the Finals is ultimately the same result as losing in the first round, you failed to win the title.

[TheMan]

It's the same. Lebron assembled a superteam and was expected to win not 7 championships. Lest you forget, they were expected to dominate the league. Point is. It's fine to lose whether in the 1st round or the finals or not make the PO's at all, however the circumstances must align. The 2011 superteam should have won and they didn't. That is a big blow. That is not tantamount to lebron losing to the spurs in 2007. People dont complain about that.
This right here. To show that we aren't just hating for the sake of hating, we hardly bring up 2007 against LBJ, we understand context...LeBron was still a kid, first time ever to the Finals, got out of a shit EC when Detroit was a shadow of it's 2004 glory days and right before the Big 3 Celtics. Cleveland got exposed by the Spurs, LeBron shit the bed but hey, he was still a youngster. 2011 though, that was a huge black mark, so was 2014 and 2018. Dude has gotten absolutely destroyed in the Finals numerous times, ain't nothing to brag about losing 6 Finals :facepalm

[And1AllDay]

Real winners win it all, losing in the Finals is ultimately the same result as losing in the first round, you failed to win the title.

wronnnnnnng /trump

:oldlol:

[The Closer]

Real winners win it all, losing in the Finals is ultimately the same result as losing in the first round, you failed to win the title.

Simple as that

Only Lebron stans are pathetic enough to actually celebrate finishing second :oldlol:

[8Ball]

Simple as that

Only Lebron stans are pathetic enough to actually celebrate finishing second :oldlol:

Better than Russell stans that celebrate career 16ppg on 43% in the playoffs :lol

[The Closer]

Better than Russell stans that celebrate career 16ppg on 43% in the playoffs :lol
LeSilver :(

[And1AllDay]

Simple as that

Only Lebron stans are pathetic enough to actually celebrate finishing second :oldlol:

nah we like to celebrate 1-9 first round sweeps and losing to the same team for three years in a row a la detroit pistons :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Real winners win it all, losing in the Finals is ultimately the same result as losing in the first round, you failed to win the title.

You can win a ring by only needing to win your 1st round series?