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3ball
06-05-2021, 02:22 PM
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* The 04' Cavs had zero all-stars, while the 05' Cavs had 2

THAT'S IMPROVEMENT


* The 06' Cavs added the hottest free agent on the market to their all-star duo, along with the future COY

THAT'S IMPROVEMENT


Lebron's first teams had several seasons to develop before entering the playoffs as favored, high seeds in 06' or 20', while Jordan's first teams were forced into the playoffs as 8 seeds in Year 1.

So the phrase "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds.

But when Jordan had 3 healthy seasons to develop his team (88'), he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron... In his 4th healthy season (89'), Jordan was vastly outperforming 07' Lebron against the champs.

Ultimately, the first low seed of Lebron's career equaled 1st Round loss (2021), just like Jordan's rookie and sophomore low seeds.. Otoh, prime Jordan's low seed kicked everyone's ass in 89'.
1987_Lakers
06-05-2021, 02:26 PM
2003 Cavs before Bron: 17-65
2004 Cavs with Bron: 35 wins, a 18 game improvement with a 18 year old

Rookie MJ only improved his team to 11 more wins, and this was a 21 year old MJ who spent years in college.

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Bron > Jordan
Gohan
06-05-2021, 02:28 PM
2003 Cavs before Bron: 17-65
2004 Cavs with Bron: 35 wins, a 18 game improvement with a 18 year old

Rookie MJ only improved his team to 11 more wins, and this was a 21 year old MJ who spent years in college.

Thread cliffs

Bron > Jordan

carmelo> both he lead his team to the playoffs and should of been rookie of the year but got utterly robbed by biased media
3ball
06-05-2021, 02:28 PM
2003 Cavs before Bron: 17-65
2004 Cavs with Bron: 35 wins, a 18 game improvement with a 18 year old

Rookie MJ only improved his team to 11 more wins, and this was a 21 year old MJ who spent years in college.

Thread cliffs

Bron > Jordan


Standard variance

Lebron and Bosh only improved the Heat 11 games, so rookie MJ matched them

Then old Jordan added 18 wins to the 02' Wizards
1987_Lakers
06-05-2021, 02:32 PM
lmao at TheMan deleting his post once he saw that OP did infact mention MJ. :oldlol:
ArbitraryWater
06-05-2021, 02:44 PM
you made this thread before, dawg
3ball
06-05-2021, 04:21 PM
you made this thread before, dawg


This OP explains how Lebron's first teams in the East or West had several years to develop into high seeds before entering the playoffs, while Jordan's teams were forced into the playoffs in Year 1 as low seed.

So the phrase "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds.

But when Jordan had 3 healthy seasons to develop his team (88'), he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron... In his 4th healthy season (89'), Jordan was vastly outperforming 07' Lebron against the champs.

Ultimately, the first low seed of Lebron's career equaled 1st Round loss (2021), just like Jordan's rookie and sophomore low seeds.. Otoh, prime Jordan's low seed kicked everyone's ass in 89'.
Vino24
06-05-2021, 04:24 PM
LeBron fvcked op’s mom. LeDaddy
And1AllDay
06-05-2021, 05:12 PM
keep typing away becos we got nothing to fear

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lebar has been set
Axe
06-05-2021, 05:39 PM
No pip? Forget about it.