The consensus top 11 to 20 all time players. The next 10

[2much_knowledge]

Ok. Lets pick from this player pool

Dr J Barkley Dirk Isiah Hakeem Jerry Robinson

Curry Wade Oscar Durant Moses Karl KG Other

My picks in no order. Julius, hakeem, Moses, oscar, jerry
Dirk, Robinson, Durant, Wade, karl

Post your 10 in no order

[LAmbruh]

I had him further back around 15-20th but out of respect I have to rank Kobe 12th

I feel ranked 12th is worthy of the Mamba, cemented consensus

[2much_knowledge]

I had him further back around 15-20th but out of respect I have to rank Kobe 12th

I think ranked 12th is worthy of the Mamba

Post your list. I don't want this to be a Kobe top 10 or not thread

[3ball]

11. Durant
12. Lebron
13. Dr. J
14. Wade
15. Oscar
16. Kawhi
17. Baylor
18. Barkley
19. Malone
20. Robinson

[LAmbruh]

Post your list. I don't want this to be a Kobe top 10 or not thread
11. Pippen
12. Kobe
13. Jordan
14. Wade
15. Oscar
16. Kawhi
17. Baylor
18. Barkley
19. Malone
20. Robinson

[SouBeachTalents]

I'd go something like

11. Kobe
12. Oscar
13. West
14. Dr. J
15. Moses
16. Malone
17. KG
18. Dirk
19. Robinson
20. Barkley

But obv guys like Pettit, Durant & Curry could be ranked there as well

[3ball]

I'd go something like

Kobe
Oscar
West
Dr. J
Moses
Malone
KG
Dirk
Robinson
Barkley

But obv guys like Pettit, Durant & Curry could be ranked there as well


^^^ Rachel Nichols/media ranking

sort by regular season MVP

[SouBeachTalents]

^^^ Rachel Nichols/media ranking

sort by regular season MVP
You know according to your ranking, someone like Kobe or Hakeem is outside the top 20 :lol Post your top 10 so I can see who your dumbass left out the top 20

[SouBeachTalents]

^^^ Rachel Nichols/media ranking

sort by regular season MVP
And I just realized, you know that virtually all those dudes won one MVP :oldlol: 30,000 posts on a basketball forum and you're absolutely clueless

[3ball]

You know according to your ranking, someone like Kobe or Hakeem is outside the top 20 :lol Post your top 10 so I can see who your dumbass left out the top 20


MJ
Wilt
Kareem
Bird
Kobe
Russell
Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
Magic

[tpols]

Guys like Barkley, Malone, Dirk, KG, Wade etc. don't really have any case over Steph Curry if we're talking careers. Guys with 0 superstar titles or just 1? Chef has 3 averaging better numbers than Kobe. Maybe you may think they were better at their best, but even that's kinda bullshit. You can't beat being the only UMVP in basketball history, shattering basketball skill paradigms ala Pat Mahomes GOAT skill.

[3ball]

Guys like Barkley, Malone, Dirk, KG, Wade etc. don't really have any case over Steph Curry if we're talking careers. Guys with 0 superstar titles or just 1? Chef has 3 averaging better numbers than Kobe. Maybe you make think they were better at their best, but even that's kinda bullshit. You can't beat being the only UMVP in basketball history, shattering basketball skill paradigms ala Pat Mahomes GOAT skill.


Aside from being 1-dimensional, the problem with Curry is that he created a Mickey Mouse format that inflates everyone's stats - his accolades are a function of discovering this formula before everyone else

once the league started using the same strategy, Curry was routinely beaten

Now he's just the new age version of a "chucker", where his low playoff field goal percentage gives his team unfavorable outcomes on possessions

[zeerghit]

11. Durant
12. Lebron
13. Dr. J
14. Wade
15. Oscar
16. Kawhi
17. Baylor
18. Barkley
19. Malone
20. Robinson

dude is special:roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

Guys like Barkley, Malone, Dirk, KG, Wade etc. don't really have any case over Steph Curry if we're talking careers. Guys with 0 superstar titles or just 1? Chef has 3 averaging better numbers than Kobe. Maybe you may think they were better at their best, but even that's kinda bullshit. You can't beat being the only UMVP in basketball history, shattering basketball skill paradigms ala Pat Mahomes GOAT skill.
You really don't think those guys are winning rings with an equivalent cast that Curry had in '17 & '18? Or with their Finals opponent decimated by injury in '15?

[Gohan]

All y’all nikkas ain’t got no credibility where the f is iverson?

[3ball]

dude is special:roll:


Lebron had the sidekick that destroyed Curry, yet Durant literally destroyed Lebron heads-up in 2017

Study a tape of the 17' Finals... KD was the superior player whose skillset yielded the higher ceiling

Ultimately, the ball-dominance of Lebron and Magic resulted in a 9-10 Finals record (underperforming team ceiling) despite the most help ever

[RRR3]

Ranking Durant over LeBron all time should get a permaban.

[zeerghit]

Lebron had the sidekick that destroyed Curry, yet Durant literally destroyed Lebron heads-up in 2017

Study a tape of the 17' Finals... KD was the superior player whose skillset yielded the higher ceiling

its ok buddy.. you are special, you need attention - u got it:roll:

[3ball]

its ok buddy.. you are special, you need attention - u got it:roll:


Ultimately, the ball-dominance of Magic and Lebron resulted in a 9-10 Finals record (underperforming team ceiling) despite the most help ever

Accordingly, I rank them side-by-side in the rankings - #10 and 12, respectively

[zeerghit]

Ultimately, the ball-dominance of Magic and Lebron resulted in a 9-10 Finals record (underperforming team ceiling) despite the most help ever

Accordingly, I rank them #10 and 11, respectively

yes yes.. you almost got it, keep trying its gonna happen buddy:roll:

[Manny98]

MJ
Wilt
Kareem
Bird
Kobe
Russell
Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
Magic

You have Lebron 12 for having a weak finals record yet you have Wilt second all time who was 2-6 in the finals

At least stay consistent

[RRR3]

3ball is literally retarded. He actually has severe brain damage and trouble processing basic things. I mean the guy can probably barely put on his clothes by himself. Probably needs help tying his shoes tbh (who am I kidding, he wears Velcro).

[RRR3]

You have Lebron 12 for having a weak finals record yet you have Wilt second all time who was 2-6 in the finals

At least stay consistent
When has he ever been consistent? He’s far too stupid to be consistent. He literally can’t be consistent because that requires basic mental competence.

[tpols]

You really don't think those guys are winning rings with an equivalent cast that Curry had in '17 & '18? Or with their Finals opponent decimated by injury in '15?

I definitely don't think any of them could lead a team with Klay and Dray as their best help to 73 wins, a championship and win an UMVP while doing it. In fact, none of them ever came even close to doing that. Except Dirk when he led a team with Josh Howard as his best help to 67 wins. And then lost in the 1st round. KG couldn't even do that with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen which is way better help than Klay and Dray.

[3ball]

You have Lebron 12 for having a weak finals record yet you have Wilt second all time who was 2-6 in the finals

At least stay consistent


There's more to it

Wilt played in an 8-team league where all the good players were on 1 team designed to beat him.. Essentially, it took another top 10 all-time player (Russell) plus 9 HOF teammates to beat Wilt

Otoh, lebron was in the Russell position with the unfairly stacked squad... yet he mostly lost everywhere he went and needed teammates to save him in 2 Finals.. a luckbox with 2 rings (and 2 asterisk)

[Axe]

Lebron had the sidekick that destroyed Curry, yet Durant literally destroyed Lebron heads-up in 2017

Study a tape of the 17' Finals... KD was the superior player whose skillset yielded the higher ceiling

Ultimately, the ball-dominance of Lebron and Magic resulted in a 9-10 Finals record (underperforming team ceiling) despite the most help ever
Rubbish take as usual

[3ball]

Rubbish take as usual


It's all facts.. you can't refute it

You must feel weird being speechless in the face of a take that's so opposite of what you are brainwashed by on tv

[2much_knowledge]

Guys like Barkley, Malone, Dirk, KG, Wade etc. don't really have any case over Steph Curry if we're talking careers. Guys with 0 superstar titles or just 1? Chef has 3 averaging better numbers than Kobe. Maybe you may think they were better at their best, but even that's kinda bullshit. You can't beat being the only UMVP in basketball history, shattering basketball skill paradigms ala Pat Mahomes GOAT skill.

Idk, im very sure all of those guy would have done very good with Durant and klay on their side. Im sure steph will surpass them but i dont think his there just yet

[2much_knowledge]

All y’all nikkas ain’t got no credibility where the f is iverson?

I have i.a between 21 and 25. With people like pippen, hondo, leonard, isiah and baylor

[Manny98]

My top 20 all time

1. LeBron
2. Jordan
3. Russell
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Duncan
8. Shaq
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem
11. Wilt
12. Curry
13. KD
14. KG
15. Admiral
16. Erving
17. West
18. Malome
19. Dirk
20. CP3

[Axe]

Guys like Barkley, Malone, Dirk, KG, Wade etc. don't really have any case over Steph Curry if we're talking careers. Guys with 0 superstar titles or just 1? Chef has 3 averaging better numbers than Kobe. Maybe you may think they were better at their best, but even that's kinda bullshit. You can't beat being the only UMVP in basketball history, shattering basketball skill paradigms ala Pat Mahomes GOAT skill.
We do know that stephen curry's case over these players are kids choice awards, having at least three of them currently or more in the future.