Someone told me Jordan only shot 28% from 3s on a regular distance 3 point line..

[Gus Hemmingway]

Is this true??

[Gus Hemmingway]

Bump

[GrayGoat]

3ball?

[3ball]

Jordan shot 40% on threes from 85-93' in games where he attempted 4+ threes

When you're only taking bailouts, you won't shoot well.. but Jordan was always a good 3-point shooter when he had a little volume

Getting in a rhythm is important for shooters
.

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan shot 40% on threes from 85-93' in games where he attempted 4+ threes

When you're only taking bailouts, you won't shoot well.. but Jordan was always a good 3-point shooter when he had a little volume

Getting in a rhythm is important for shooters
.

Why couldnt he make 4 in a row in a 3 point contest vs Craig Hodges? :(

Dude only made like 5 out of 25 attempts that night. :oldlol:

[3ball]

Why couldnt he make 4 in a row in a 3 point contest vs Craig Hodges? :(

Dude only made like 5 out of 25 attempts that night. :oldlol:


Jordan "Nate Robinson'ed" the three-point contest and threes in general (didn't take it seriously or train effectively)

jumped into the contest willy-nilly

[Overdrive]

The difference between 28 and 35% on 1000 3pa at 5 3pa/g is 1.05 ppg.

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan "Nate Robinson'ed" the three-point contest and threes in general (didn't take it seriously or train effectively)

jumped into the contest willy-nilly

Please, Bird won a 3 point contest in '88 in a warm-up jacket. Bird didn't take it serious and still won. No excuses.

[Overdrive]

Jordan "Nate Robinson'ed" the three-point contest and threes in general (didn't take it seriously or train effectively)

jumped into the contest willy-nilly

This is such a bullshit argument. Jordan was a great player, but not a good strategist.
That's why he needed Phil, why he needed Pip, why he didn't see incorporating the 3 into his game being an advantage. Either he didn't see that or he couldn't do it.

[3ball]

Please, Bird won a 3 point contest in '88 in a warm-up jacket. Bird didn't take it serious and still won. No excuses.

Bird took long distance shooting seriously

He didn't "nate robinson" it

Otoh, Jordan said he specifically didn't want to be good at threes (he said it takes away from the rest of his game)

[GrayGoat]

Bird was much much better than MJ at 3pt shooting

[Overdrive]

Bird took long distance shooting seriously

He didn't nate robinson it

So Jordan is dumb?

Would explain his drafting history.

[3ball]

Bird was much much better than MJ at 3pt shooting


No he wasn't

85-93' Jordan shot better in the playoffs than prime Bird (80-87') on higher volume... Despite not taking the shot seriously like Bird

And Bird never looked like Steph Curry in a Finals game like 92' Jordan..

In the 93' Playoffs, Jordan shot 40% from three on 4 attempts (ditto the 92' and 93' Finals)... Without trying or planning... Just naturally

[RRR3]

Overdrive brutally bullying Snivelball :biggums:

[1987_Lakers]

Bird took long distance shooting seriously

He didn't "nate robinson" it

Otoh, Jordan said he specifically didn't want to be good at threes (he said it takes away from the rest of his game)

No, Bird was just a naturally better shooter. From '85-'88 he averaged 2.5 three point attempts per game and still made 41% of them. You really think he was practicing 3s like players do today? Nope, he was just naturally a great shooter.

[warriorfan]

So Jordan is dumb?

Would explain his drafting history.

Yeah. Jordan is dumb for not shooting 3’s. He should have taken basketball tips from a european poofer who doesn’t know a hoop from his asshole instead.

Seems legit.

[Axe]

No he wasn't

85-93' Jordan shot better in the playoffs than prime Bird (80-87') on higher volume... Despite not taking the shot seriously like Bird

And Bird never looked like Steph Curry in a Finals game like 92' Jordan..

In the 93' Playoffs, Jordan shot 40% from three on 4 attempts (ditto the 92' and 93' Finals)... Without trying or planning... Just naturally
Ditto :sleeping

[Overdrive]

Overdrive brutally bullying Snivelball :biggums:

I honestly think Jordan is greater and better than Lebron, but that "if Jordan put his mind into it he would be great at x or y" argument is so retarded. Either he couldn't, didn't want to(why not) or was to lazy to. There's just no way around it.

[3ball]

No, Bird was just a naturally better shooter. From '85-'88 he averaged 2.5 three point attempts per game and still made 41% of them. You really think he was practicing 3s like players do today? Nope, he was just naturally a great shooter.


PLAYOFFS

85-93' Jordan.... 35.2% on 2.2 attempts
80-87' Bird......... 34.9% on 1.4 attempts


^^^ despite not taking the shot seriously like Bird

And Bird never looked like Steph Curry in a Finals game like 92' Jordan..

In the 93' Playoffs, Jordan shot 40% on 4 attempts (ditto the 92' and 93' Finals)... Without trying or planning... Just naturally

[1987_Lakers]

PLAYOFFS

85-93' Jordan.... 35.2% on 2.2 attempts
80-87' Bird......... 34.9% on 1.4 attempts


^^^ despite not taking the shot seriously like Bird

And Bird never looked like Steph Curry in a Finals game like 92' Jordan..

In the 93' Playoffs, Jordan shot 40% on 4 attempts (ditto the 92' and 93' Finals)... Without trying or planning... Just naturally

You know what's funny? You give MJ a pass for his bad 3 point shooting seasons because of "lack of volume of attempts" but completely ignore that from '80-'83, Bird only took 33 attempts in the postseason, that's 33 attempts in 4 years. :oldlol:

If you start looking at Bird's postseason attempts when he actually started using the three as a weapon from '84-'88, Bird had a 37% 3p%. With 171 attempts.

[3ball]

You know what's funny? You give MJ a pass on his bad 3 point shooting seasons because of "lack of volume of attempts" but completely ignore that from '80-'83, Bird only took 33 attempts in the postseason, that's 33 attempts in 4 years. :oldlol:

If you start looking at Bird's postseason attempts when he actually started using the three as a weapon from '84-'88, Bird had a 37% 3p%. With 171 attempts.

In today's era, Jordan would grow up shooting threes, so the same goat jumpshooting he did from 2-point range (the goat 2-point jumpshooter) would extend to 3-point range.. he'd be fading away from 3 like it's a mid-range turnaround

The goat form and 2-point jumpshooter would be the goat 3-point shooter in today's format

I honestly believe that - the only problem is that his focus on 3-point shooting could take away from his power game... For example, I doubt he would've developed the goat drop-step for non-bigs in today's game like he did in the 2-pt eras... So no switch-hands shot in the Finals and his overall shot-making ability reduced... So he'd actually be a worse player

[HoopsNY]

I honestly think Jordan is greater and better than Lebron, but that "if Jordan put his mind into it he would be great at x or y" argument is so retarded. Either he couldn't, didn't want to(why not) or was to lazy to. There's just no way around it.

Jordan being a "great" three point shooter is unrealistic. But are you saying that him shooting a consistent 35-36% in this era is unfathomable?

I don't think that it is. The proof is in the trends. The NBA introduced the 3 point line in the 1980 season. As time went on, a lot of great players saw their three point percentages increase.

As this era progressed, the same thing has happened. LeBron started a 33% over his first 8 seasons. Since then, he's shot 36%.

Go look at Jordan, Magic, Bird, and other players and see how they started and as time went, how their three point percentages increased. It's not unreasonable to think that MJ could shoot slightly better in this era.

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan being a "great" three point shooter is unrealistic. But are you saying that him shooting a consistent 35-36% in this era is unfathomable?

I don't think that it is. The proof is in the trends. The NBA introduced the 3 point line in the 1980 season. As time went on, a lot of great players saw their three point percentages increase.

As this era progressed, the same thing has happened. LeBron started a 33% over his first 8 seasons. Since then, he's shot 36%.

Go look at Jordan, Magic, Bird, and other players and see how they started and as time went, how their three point percentages increased. It's not unreasonable to think that MJ could shoot slightly better in this era.

35 or 36% is something I see MJ shooting today, not good, not bad, just average.

[TheGoatest]

Jordan shot 40% on threes from 85-93' in games where he attempted 4+ threes
.

He also shot 90% from behind the 3 point line on second tuesdays of the month in non-leap years whenever he played in a state that started with the letters A, F, M, O, T and W. 90%!!

[3ball]

35 or 36% is something I see MJ shooting today, not good, not bad, just average.


So in 1985, you'd be one of the people saying Jordan would only develop a mediocre jumper, but not that great

And you'd be dead wrong because Jordan went from a rookie with questionable jumper, to the goat 2-point jumpshooter

So unlike Zion, Giannis, Lebron, and Simmons, Jordan had the capacity to drastically improve his jumper to goat level..

He would do the same with threes... his goat form and mental make-up gives him the capacity to improve - he was a late bloomer, so improvement is all he knows.. he went from a dunker to jumpshooter, which almost no one does..

so all the evidence shows that Jordan would show drastic improvement (metamorphosis even) to goat level.. your prediction of marginal improvement isn't supported by history

Therefore, 35 or 36% is a joke considering guys like Bosh and Ibaka shot 40%.. Ingram is at 40%... Jordan has literally GOAT form and mental make-up, so he'd shoot better than these guys

[HoopsNY]

So in 1985, you'd be one of the people saying Jordan would only develop a mediocre jumper, but not that great

And you'd be dead wrong because Jordan went from a rookie with questionable jumper, to the goat 2-point jumpshooter

So unlike Zion, Giannis, Lebron, and Simmons, Jordan had the capacity to drastically improve his jumper to goat level..

He would do the same with threes... his goat form and mental make-up gives him the capacity to improve - he was a late bloomer, so improvement is all he knows.. he went from a dunker to jumpshooter, which almost no one does..

so all the evidence shows that Jordan would show drastic improvement (metamorphosis even) to goat level.. your prediction of marginal improvement isn't supported by history

Therefore, 35 or 36% is a joke considering guys like Bosh and Ibaka shot 40%.. Ingram is at 40%... Jordan has literally GOAT form and mental make-up, so he'd shoot better than these guys

Bosh was a career 33% three point shooter. Ibaka is a career 36% shooter. Is it possible that MJ has a few 40% seasons in this era? Sure. But over the span of 15 seasons? I doubt it. 36% is reasonable for a career.

[3ball]

Bosh was a career 33% three point shooter. Ibaka is a career 36% shooter. Is it possible that MJ has a few 40% seasons in this era? Sure. But over the span of 15 seasons? I doubt it. 36% is reasonable for a career.

In today's game, Jordan would be shooting threes from elementary school and would enter the league as a 40% three-point shooter

Secondly, the 3-point era is only about 5 years old, so Bosh/Ibaka aren't going to show great shooting their whole career - but both guys turned into 40% shooters quickly and easily when the league format changed to threes, so it isn't a big accomplishment - Jordan has much better improvement accomplishments

And again, you think Jordan is some ordinary player that improves marginally

But Jordan was a completely different player during the 2nd three-peat - he completely transformed his game and had already improved his jumper more than anyone we've seen

[Marchesk]

I honestly think Jordan is greater and better than Lebron, but that "if Jordan put his mind into it he would be great at x or y" argument is so retarded. Either he couldn't, didn't want to(why not) or was to lazy to. There's just no way around it.

False trilemma. Option D would be he didn't need to. Jordan was great enough at what he did well to win scoring titles, MVPs and championships, that he didn't feel the need to modify his form and spend the hours to become a superior three point shooter (for his era).

[3ball]

False trilemma. Option D would be he didn't need to. Jordan was great enough at what he did well to win scoring titles, MVPs and championships, that he didn't feel the need to modify his form and spend the hours to become a superior three point shooter (for his era).

Name a player with better shooting form than Jordan

That's why Jordan could look like Steph Curry in the 92' Finals without ever practicing the shot...

And that's why he developed into the goat 2-point jumpshooter after entering the league with a spotty jumper

[HoopsNY]

In today's game, Jordan would be shooting threes from elementary school and would enter the league as a 40% three-point shooter

Secondly, the 3-point era is only about 5 years old, so Bosh/Ibaka aren't going to show great shooting their whole career - but both guys turned into 40% shooters quickly and easily when the league format changed to threes, so it isn't a big accomplishment - Jordan has much better improvement accomplishments

And again, you think Jordan is some ordinary player that improves marginally

But Jordan was a completely different player during the 2nd three-peat - he completely transformed his game and had already improved his jumper more than anyone we've seen

Right, which is why I believe he would have some years where he's shooting 38-40%. But that doesn't mean he shoots that way for his entire career. As you said, it would take away from his game.

Ibaka was shooting 38% as early as the 2013-14 season. Bosh never really hit 40% on high volume, so I'm not sure why you included him. He shot 38% in 2014-15, but that was about it.

Guys like Chris Paul have shot 37% for their careers. Why is MJ shooting a notch below that (with some scattered years of higher percentages) unreasonable and unfathomable?

Furthermore, if MJ shoots as many threes as some guys are in today's game, his overall FG% would go down, though TS% would probably go up. It's all a trade off.

I'm not saying MJ is incapable of developing a better three point shot, but you're acting like 40% is given. I just don't believe that and the evidence suggests the same. If he wasn't shooting that in the 90s when other guys were, then there is no reason to believe he would do that now.

A higher percentage? Sure. The evidence suggests that. But it is within reason, and 40% is unreasonable.

[3ball]

40% is unreasonable.





The reason why today's players shoot threes better is because they grew up shooting it

That's the difference between previous eras shooting like garbage from deep, and today's players shooting like a god

So you're simply underrating how night-and-day different it would be if Jordan shot threes from grade school

It would be night and day different, just like today's game is night and day different..

Yet you're saying Jordan would shoot a little better than he did in the 90's.. that isn't the night and day difference that 15 extra years shooting threes as a youth would result in

[HoopsNY]

The reason why today's players shoot threes better is because they grew up shooting it

That's the difference between previous eras shooting like garbage from deep, and today's players shooting like a god

So you're simply underrating how night-and-day different it would be if Jordan shot threes from grade school

It would be night and day different, just like today's game is night and day different..

Yet you're saying Jordan would shoot a little better than he did in the 90's.. that isn't the night and day difference that 15 extra years shooting threes as a youth would result in

So which one is it? Did the game change with a lot more threes in the last 5 years or the last 20? Players have adjusted and are shooting them more in a very recent time frame. If MJ is 30 years old now, how does he grow up shooting a lot more threes in 2005?

Between 1996-98 teams shot between 1,000-1,300 threes. Between 2005-07 they shot about the same. So Jordan is born in 1990, plays high school ball somewhere around 2004-05 onward, and magically becomes an expert three point shooter just because of his form? It doesn't add up.

[light]

Is this true??

Sadly yes.

He also still holds the record for worst performance in three point shooting contest history.

He was such a poor three point shooter that he surprised himself when he made a few consecutively in a Finals game.

He couldn't believe they were going in!

[brutalBBQ]

jordan couldn't shoot 3s to today's standard and came last in a 3 point comp

reeeeeeeeeeeee

[iamgine]

We can only speculate players at their time. I'm sure Wilt, Hakeem, Kareem can be a great 3pt shooter if growing up in this era. But we cannot just say oh Hakeem would shoot 3s like KAT.

[TheGoatest]

We can only speculate players at their time. I'm sure Wilt, Hakeem, Kareem can be a great 3pt shooter if growing up in this era. But we cannot just say oh Hakeem would shoot 3s like KAT.

The difference is that there were no centers shooting 3s back then, so we cannot say that Hakeem, Kareem, etc. are poor 3 point shooters compared to some other contemporary center because there were no 3 point shooting centers to begin with.

On the other hand, there were plenty of great perimeter 3 point shooters then: Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, Glen Rice, Dale Ellis, Drazen Petrovic, Mark Price etc. They were all amazing 3-point shooters, and not just in the seasons between 1994 and 1997 with the pee-wee 3 point line. And they all played during the same era as Michael Jordan, faced the same teams and players under the same rules. So we can safely say that it wasn't impossible to be a great 3 point shooter then for a perimeter player, and therefore evaluate Jordan's 15% and 20% shooting 3 point seasons based on this knowledge.

[3ball]

it wasn't impossible to be a great 3 point shooter then for a perimeter player, and therefore evaluate Jordan's 15% and 20% shooting 3 point seasons based on this knowledge.


those guys (ellis, miller, price) were considered weird novelties, while Jordan was the consensus best player without threes - Jordan chose not to shoot threes and said he didn't want to be good at threes.

So you're not realizing is that anytime Jordan decided to take more than bailout volume, he shot well.. he attempted less than 1.5 threes his entire career, except 90' and 93' when he shot 38% and 35% on 3 attempts..

he also won the 93' title shooting 40% on 4 attempts in the playoffs.. and he shot the same in the 92' Finals

So based on his success shooting threes when he decided to have any volume whatsoever, and based on his shooting in the 93' Playoffs.... and based on his goat form.... and his demonstrated ability to improve his jumpshot (he improved from a spotty jumper to the goat 2-point jumpshooter) - he would be among the best three-point shooters if he grew up focusing on the shot like today's era

Finally - you guys are apparently horrible scouts... You think guys with beginner-looking jumpers will improve as shooters (Zion, Giannis), but the goat 2-point jumpshooter with goat form and proven ability to drastically improve his jumper wouldn't improve his threes much in today's game.. it's preposterous and demonstrates low understanding of the game or how guys improve

One more thing - Jordan really did take bailout threes exclusively, as demonstrated by his career of 1.5 attempts or less every year.. but there's video evidence too - there's a 12 minute video of Jordan hitting bailout threes as the clock winds down... 12 straight minutes of bailouts... How can anyone watch Jordan's form and think he didn't have capacity to be a great 3-point shooter?.. it's shallow thinking - here's 12 straight minutes of bailouts from Jordan:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=02m13s

[TheGoatest]

He "chose" not to be a good 3 point shooter.. Riiiight. That's why he suddenly became a good 3-point shooter in the seasons with the pee-wee 3-point line and his 3pt% went way up, but then when they went back to the normal 3-point line again in 1997-98, he went from a season where he shot .374 on 3.6 3pt attempts to one where he shot .238 on 1.5 attempts. It had nothing to do with him having range for a pee-wee 3 point line, but not a proper 3 point line, it was all because of his "choice" not to be a good 3 point shooter on a normal line.

[3ball]

He "chose" not to be a good 3 point shooter.. Riiiight. That's why he suddenly became a good 3-point shooter in the seasons with the pee-wee 3-point line and his 3pt% went way up, but then when they went back to the normal 3-point line again in 1997-98, he went from a season where he shot .374 on 3.6 3pt attempts to one where he shot .238 on 1.5 attempts. It had nothing to do with him having range for a pee-wee 3 point line, but not a proper 3 point line, it was all because of his "choice" not to be a good 3 point shooter on a normal line.


Thread Cliffs


Jordan's 3-point shooting can't be criticized because he only took bailouts and shot well anytime he had volume

Look it up - anytime he had more than bailout volume, he shot well!

So what's the criticism?... There is none except he had goat form and was the goat 2-point jumpshooter, therefore having more capacity than anyone to be a great 3-pt shooter

[8Ball]

LeBron is a better 3point shooter.

Just like LeBron is taller, stronger.

Basic facts.

[3ball]

LeBron is a better 3point shooter.

Just like LeBron is taller, stronger.

Basic facts.

Lebron is a worse 3-point shooter but simply took more attempts

And David West is stronger than lebron and rag dolls him, so strength is neither here nor there

[8Ball]

LeBron 3point % > Jordan %.

Strength is here and there when comparing the GOAT LeBron to #2 players.

David West isn't stronger than LeBron. You are admitting that LeBron is stronger than Jordan and would rag doll Jordan. :applause:

[dankok8]

Lebron fans like to pretend that Jordan didn't shoot 38.7% from the 1991 to the 1993 playoffs combined. And that's with a normal 3pt line. Prime Jordan shot and made 3's at a very good clip which isn't surprising for a guy who's a GOAT-level midrange and free throw shooter.

[dankok8]

LeBron 3point % > Jordan %.

Strength is here and there when comparing the GOAT LeBron to #2 players.

David West isn't stronger than LeBron. You are admitting that LeBron is stronger than Jordan and would rag doll Jordan. :applause:

What does strength have to do with anything? Shaq would ragdoll Lebron. So Shaq > Lebron easily right?

[8Ball]

What does strength have to do with anything? Shaq would ragdoll Lebron. So Shaq > Lebron easily right?

If Shaq could do everything LeBron did then yes.

LeBron can do everything Jordan did and had far superior strength and passing.

[dankok8]

If Shaq could do everything LeBron did then yes.

LeBron can do everything Jordan did and had far superior strength and passing.

He really can't though. And besides that's not how basketball works.

[3ball]

LeBron is a better 3point shooter.

Just like LeBron is taller, stronger.

Basic facts.


Again, Jordan's 3-point shooting can't be criticized because he only took bailouts and shot well anytime he had volume

Look it up - anytime he had more than bailout volume, he shot well!

So what's the criticism?... There is none except he was the goat 2-point jumpshooter with goat form and demonstrated ability to significantly improve his jumper - therefore, he had more capacity than anyone to be a great 3-pt shooter

[TheGoatest]

Thread Cliffs


Jordan's 3-point shooting can't be criticized because he only took bailouts and shot well anytime he had volume

Look it up - anytime he had more than bailout volume, he shot well!

So what's the criticism?... There is none except he had goat form and was the goat 2-point jumpshooter, therefore having more capacity than anyone to be a great 3-pt shooter

He has the record for most seasons with a 3pt% that is lower .200 where a player takes 0.5 3pt attempts per game. Jordan has four.

His "volume" increased in the seasons with a pee-wee 3pt line. Why? Because he knew that he didn't have range for an ordinary line.

[Baller789]

He really can't though. And besides that's not how basketball works.

He's just a run of the mill Lebron stan pretending to be smart but ends up exposing his biased stupidity.

[Baller789]

He has the record for most seasons with a 3pt% that is lower .200 where a player takes 0.5 3pt attempts per game. Jordan has four.

His "volume" increased in the seasons with a pee-wee 3pt line. Why? Because he knew that he didn't have range for an ordinary line.

Jordan is a below average 3pt. Shooter when he started.
Irregardless, it doesn't really matter how well Jordan shot the 3ball. It wasn't weaponized it that era.

This is just a troll thread by the op who is a known Lebron stan.

[TheGoatest]

LeBron is a better 3point shooter.

Just like LeBron is taller, stronger.

Basic facts.

Jordan has 8 seasons with a worse 3pt% than LeBron's worst 3pt% season, from when he was an 18 year-old rookie. :roll:
LeBron has 1 season out of 18 where he shot below .300 on 3 pointers. Jordan has 9 seasons out of 15 where he shot below .300. And he might have had more if they didn't nerf the line between 1994 and 1997.

LeBron's weakest part of his game (free throw shooting) is easily better than Jordan's 3 point shooting.

[Baller789]

Jordan has 8 seasons with a worse 3pt% than LeBron's worst 3pt% season, from when he was an 18 year-old rookie. :roll:
LeBron has 1 season out of 18 where he shot below .300 on 3 pointers. Jordan has 9 seasons out of 15 where he shot below .300. And he might have had more if they didn't nerf the line between 1994 and 1997.

LeBron's weakest part of his game (free throw shooting) is easily better than Jordan's 3 point shooting.

Why would anyone care in the 90's if he was a bad 3 point shooter?

[Bronbron23]

Is this true??

Not in the post season and especially not the finals baby but let me guess, now the regular season is the end all and be all. Yall bron stans are amazing:facepalm

[GrayGoat]

4 pages of MJ stans justifying MJ’s poor 3pt shooting. Uh the stats are undeniable and speak for themself.

[Bronbron23]

4 pages of MJ stans justifying MJ’s poor 3pt shooting. Uh the stats are undeniable and speak for themself.

Glad you said that. Here's mj's and brons post season 3pt % from the regular line.

Mj: 39%

Bron: 34%

Oh and if we look at peak it's still mj.

Mj: 91-93 39% 3pt

Bron: 2012-2014 3pt 35%

No matter how you look at it mj was better in the post season from the regular line.

F*ck bron stans are idiots :facepalm

[Bronbron23]

Glad you said that. Here's mj's and brons post season 3pt % from the regular line.

Mj: 39%

Bron: 34%

Oh and if we look at peak it's still mj.

Mj: 91-93 39% 3pt

Bron: 2012-2014 3pt 35%

No matter how you look at it mj was better in the post season from the regular line.

F*ck bron stans are idiots :facepalm

Oh let me guess, the stats are all of a sudden denial now:roll:

[Hey Yo]

Why couldnt he make 4 in a row in a 3 point contest vs Craig Hodges? :(

Dude only made like 5 out of 25 attempts that night. :oldlol:

MJ had the 3pt champion on his team for 5yrs........... but they were never stacked???

[Hey Yo]

Glad you said that. Here's mj's and brons post season 3pt % from the regular line.

Mj: 39%

Bron: 34%

Oh and if we look at peak it's still mj.

Mj: 91-93 39% 3pt

Bron: 2012-2014 3pt 35%

No matter how you look at it mj was better in the post season from the regular line.

F*ck bron stans are idiots :facepalm

Where's the 3PA per game between the 2?

[3ball]

He has the record for most seasons with a 3pt% that is lower .200 where a player takes 0.5 3pt attempts per game. Jordan has four.

His "volume" increased in the seasons with a pee-wee 3pt line. Why? Because he knew that he didn't have range for an ordinary line.


No, his volume increased in 90' and 93' from the regular line where he shot 38% and 35% at higher volume (3 attempts)

Every other year he attempted bailout volume - 1.5 attempts or less

So again, Jordan's 3-point shooting can't be criticized because he only took bailouts and shot well anytime he had volume

[Bronbron23]

Where's the 3PA per game between the 2?
Bron obviously shoots more he's in a era where shot attempts per team are up from 7 in mj's days to 30 plus now. It's irrelevant though anyway. Unlike bron mj's efficiency dosnt drop the more he shoots. That's why he's one if the best volume shooters. It dosnt matter if he shoots 5 or 35 shots. Hus efficiency dosnt change.

[Marchesk]

LeBron is a better 3point shooter.

Just like LeBron is taller, stronger.

Basic facts.

But from actual photo evidence, we know Lebron doesn't have a Pippen like Jordan did.

[GrayGoat]

But from actual photo evidence, we know Lebron doesn't have a Pippen like Jordan did.

This is true

[Baller789]

MJ had the 3pt champion on his team for 5yrs........... but they were never stacked???

What's the big deal if Hodges was a 3 point champion in the 90's? He's a one dimensional role player.

He's not like Ray Allen on the bench in this era.

[Bronbron23]

But from actual photo evidence, we know Lebron doesn't have a Pippen like Jordan did.

Nope he had something better. Wade and davis.

I give bron credit for winning with kyrie though. He can score and is crazy skilled but dude is a head case.

[GrayGoat]

It’s true 28%

[Bronbron23]

It’s true 28%

Yup but 39% in post season. So bron was better in reg season and mj was better when it mattered. Glad we got that settled.

[RRR3]

Yup but 39% in post season. So bron was better in reg season and mj was better when it mattered. Glad we got that settled.
LeBron literally has a higher 3PT percentage in the playoffs than Jordan :roll: 33.5% to 33.2%
And his volume was about twice as high.

Dumbdumb23 at it again

[Bronbron23]

LeBron literally has a higher 3PT percentage in the playoffs than Jordan :roll: 33.5% to 33.2%
And his volume was about twice as high.

Dumbdumb23 at it again

Once again bron stans having a hard time following. The argument was from the regular 3 pt line and from the regular 3pt line mj was more efficient in the post season. Dosn't matter if you look at overall or peak. Mj was better.



And volume Dosn't matter with mj. He's one of the goat volume shooters. Dosn't matter if he shoots 5 or 35 his efficiency Dosn't change.:facepalm

[RRR3]

Once again bron stans having a hard time following. The argument was from the regular 3 pt line and from the regular 3pt line mj was more efficient in the post season. Dosn't matter if you look at overall or peak. Mj was better.



And volume Dosn't matter with mj. He's one of the goat volume shooters. Dosn't matter if he shoots 5 or 35 his efficiency Dosn't change.:facepalm
If MJ was that bad from the shortened line in those years, it stands to reason moving it farther out wouldn’t have made him better :oldlol:

MJ legit never took 3s at a high volume, nor did he take the kind of 3s LeBron takes (legit 30 footers) so this is a weird stance. No one sane thinks MJ was better at 3s, sorry champ.

[Bronbron23]

If MJ was that bad from the shortened line in those years, it stands to reason moving it farther out wouldn’t have made him better :oldlol:

MJ legit never took 3s at a high volume, nor did he take the kind of 3s LeBron takes (legit 30 footers) so this is a weird stance. No one sane thinks MJ was better at 3s, sorry champ.

It was the 90's dude. Teams were taking 7 threes a game so your volume argument just dosn't fly. If bron was in the 90's he'd only shoot 2 or 3 3's too. We really dont know what mj's efficiency would be now if he was shooting twice as many three's. All we know is what we know. We know mj was an efficient volume shooter and we know he shot the 3 more efficiently from the regular line in the post season.

And the 30 feet shit is irrelevant. You don't get more points for shooting a three from 40 feet. A three is a three.

And all that said all trolling and shit talking aside i'm not even saying mj is a better 3 point shooter than bron in the post season. Who knows really. All i'm saying is he was actually pretty efficient from 3 from the regular line in the post season. More efficient than bron. The numbers are there. It's not even arguable.

[1987_Lakers]

It was the 90's dude. Teams were taking 7 threes a game so your volume argument just dosn't fly. If bron was in the 90's he'd only shoot 2 or 3 3's too. We really dont know what mj's efficiency would be now if he was shooting twice as many three's.

Reggie Miller, Danny Ainge, Glen Rice, Dennis Scott, Dale Ellis, Dell Curry, Petrovic, Larry Bird, Mark Price, Stockton, Hornacek, Mullin, Byron Scott, etc etc.

These are all guys who had seasons shooting 40% or better from 3 in the late 80's and early 90's. Why couldn't MJ do it?

What we do know is that MJ attempted close to 1800 3s in his career and only made 33% of them, and I'm generously including the years the NBA shortened the 3 point shot.

[Bronbron23]

Reggie Miller, Danny Ainge, Glen Rice, Dennis Scott, Dale Ellis, Dell Curry, Petrovic, Larry Bird, Mark Price, Stockton, Hornacek, Mullin, Byron Scott, etc etc.

These are all guys who had seasons shooting 40% or better from 3 in the late 80's and early 90's. Why couldn't MJ do it?

What we do know is that MJ attempted close to 1800 3s in his career and only made 33% of them, and I'm generously including the years the NBA shortened the 3 point shot.

Ummm because he wasn't as good of a three point shooter. My argument isn't that mj was an amazing 3 point shooter like those guys were. It's only that when it mattered he shot the 3 more efficiently than bron from the regular line

Once again the numbers don't lie. This isn't even arguable

[Stanley Kobrick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg

[Baller789]

It was the 90's dude. Teams were taking 7 threes a game so your volume argument just dosn't fly. If bron was in the 90's he'd only shoot 2 or 3 3's too. We really dont know what mj's efficiency would be now if he was shooting twice as many three's. All we know is what we know. We know mj was an efficient volume shooter and we know he shot the 3 more efficiently from the regular line in the post season.

And the 30 feet shit is irrelevant. You don't get more points for shooting a three from 40 feet. A three is a three.

And all that said all trolling and shit talking aside i'm not even saying mj is a better 3 point shooter than bron in the post season. Who knows really. All i'm saying is he was actually pretty efficient from 3 from the regular line in the post season. More efficient than bron. The numbers are there. It's not even arguable.

Hard to argue with delusional Lebron stans eh?

[Shooter]

It’s true 28%

Wow

What a fraud

Cant shoot

[Bronbron23]

Hard to argue with delusional Lebron stans eh?

Yeah but it's fun trying lol

[Manny98]

Nothing gets Jordan fans all hot & bothered like bringing up what a awful 3 point shooter he was and that he had a lower career 3 point percentage than Lebron :oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

Nothing gets Jordan fans all hot & bothered like bringing up what a awful 3 point shooter he was and that he had a lower career 3 point percentage than Lebron :oldlol:

Can't speak for the mj stans on here but i could care leas. Plus bron is only better by a bag hair in the regular and it's pretty much even in the post season so it's fine if you wanna say mj wasn't great but that means bron wasn't great either.

[Manny98]

Can't speak for the mj stans on here but i could care leas. Plus bron is only better by a bag hair in the regular and it's pretty much even in the post season so it's fine if you wanna say mj wasn't great but that means bron wasn't great either.
You have 11 replies in this thread, you obviously care a lot :oldlol:

[GrayGoat]

You have 11 replies in this thread, you obviously care a lot :oldlol:

And that’s only on one account. Don’t forget the other accounts ;)